Justin C wrote:
> In article <LvBQh.90622$ZA5.34574@newsfe15.phx>,
> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:
>
>> I'm curious to discover what people's monitors are registering/not
>> registering in terms of shadow details and highlight details.
>>
>> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the
>> following:
>>
>> Dark image sample:
>> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
>
> That was easy! No problem at all.
>> Light image sample:
>> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>
> At first I couldn't see anything in this, while I was waiting for PS
> to start up I started discerning something but not enough to read it.
> However I adjust my screen, I can' read that. Only PS lets me adjust
> it enough to read.
>
> Using a MBP, default settings.
I can only barely read the white, but I can read it in both Photoshop and on
the web (Firefox).
> I'm curious to discover what people's monitors are registering/not
> registering in terms of shadow details and highlight details.
>
> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the following:
>
> Dark image sample:
> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
> Light image sample:
> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>
> This becomes significant when discussing some aspets of photos that are
> shared here.
>
> Thanks for you input...and...no cheating!
>
> Mark
On the first one I see "if you can't read this your monitor needs
adjusting" or whatever it was - very readable when I set the monitor
properly. Second one - I see nothing.
"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:
> David J. Littleboy wrote:
>> "Ed Ruf wrote:
>>> "Mark²" wrote:
>>
>>>> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the
>>>> following: Dark image sample:
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
>>>> Light image sample:
>>>> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>>>
>>> The first question to ask is what you want us to view this in as
>>> most all web browsers are not color managed. Do you want them viewed
>>> in one's browser or dl'd and viewed in a color managed app for your
>>> course of discussion?
>>
>> Color management shouldn't make a difference: these are B&W images.
>> What should make a difference is gamma (there used to be a Mac/peecee
>> difference here).
>
> Calibrating a monitor should take contrast and brightness into account,
> though, which will definitely effect this image.
Of course. But color management shouldn't.
> Issues have come up where some people are seeing no shadow detail in
> someone's images...while others do. This is why I'm curious to see how
> sensitive people's monitors are...
I think that this sort of testing is a good idea. My axe to grind is how to
set up one's system relative to prints, so I was changing the subject
somewhat. Splitting hairs that can't be split in an R2400 print doesn't make
sense for my purposes, but is useful for web display.
> On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:34:06 -0700, Mark² wrote:
>
>> I'm curious to discover what people's monitors are registering/not
>> registering in terms of shadow details and highlight details.
>>
>> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the following:
>>
>> Dark image sample:
>> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
>> Light image sample:
>> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>>
>> This becomes significant when discussing some aspets of photos that are
>> shared here.
>>
>> Thanks for you input...and...no cheating!
>>
>> Mark
>
> On the first one I see "if you can't read this your monitor needs
> adjusting" or whatever it was - very readable when I set the monitor
> properly. Second one - I see nothing.
Saving the file and playing with hilights in GIMP - I see the answer is 4.
ray wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:57:56 -0600, ray wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:34:06 -0700, Mark² wrote:
>>
>>> I'm curious to discover what people's monitors are registering/not
>>> registering in terms of shadow details and highlight details.
>>>
>>> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the
>>> following:
>>>
>>> Dark image sample:
>>> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
>>> Light image sample:
>>> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>>>
>>> This becomes significant when discussing some aspets of photos that
>>> are shared here.
>>>
>>> Thanks for you input...and...no cheating!
>>>
>>> Mark
>>
>> On the first one I see "if you can't read this your monitor needs
>> adjusting" or whatever it was - very readable when I set the monitor
>> properly. Second one - I see nothing.
>
> Saving the file and playing with hilights in GIMP - I see the answer
> is 4.
On 2007-04-03 19:34:06 -0400, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
here)@cox..net> said:
> I'm curious to discover what people's monitors are registering/not
> registering in terms of shadow details and highlight details.
>
> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the following:
>
> Dark image sample:
> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
> Light image sample:
> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>
> This becomes significant when discussing some aspets of photos that are
> shared here.
>
> Thanks for you input...and...no cheating!
>
> Mark
Not much..... without cheating. ... but If I bump up
he contrast and brightness, well, I can see something.. but then I
will need to back and recalibrate my monitor.
"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
news:LvBQh.90622$ZA5.34574@newsfe15.phx...
> I'm curious to discover what people's monitors are registering/not
> registering in terms of shadow details and highlight details.
>
> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the following:
>
> Dark image sample:
> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
> Light image sample:
> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>
> This becomes significant when discussing some aspets of photos that are
> shared here.
>
> Thanks for you input...and...no cheating!
>
> Mark
The dark image I could see, the light image I could not.
Skip wrote:
> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
> news:LvBQh.90622$ZA5.34574@newsfe15.phx...
>> I'm curious to discover what people's monitors are registering/not
>> registering in terms of shadow details and highlight details.
>>
>> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the following:
>>
>> Dark image sample:
>> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
>> Light image sample:
>> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>>
>> This becomes significant when discussing some aspets of photos that are
>> shared here.
>>
>> Thanks for you input...and...no cheating!
>>
>> Mark
>
> The dark image I could see, the light image I could not.
Same here on my laptop. (macbookpro). The third image as well as the
white one with red type I couldn't make out, I can see from above at
about a 70 degree angle. As Johnny used to say, "I did not know that."
John McWilliams wrote:
> Skip wrote:
>> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
>> news:LvBQh.90622$ZA5.34574@newsfe15.phx...
>>> I'm curious to discover what people's monitors are registering/not
>>> registering in terms of shadow details and highlight details.
>>>
>>> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the
>>> following: Dark image sample:
>>> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
>>> Light image sample:
>>> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>>>
>>> This becomes significant when discussing some aspets of photos that
>>> are shared here.
>>>
>>> Thanks for you input...and...no cheating!
>>>
>>> Mark
>>
>> The dark image I could see, the light image I could not.
>
> Same here on my laptop. (macbookpro). The third image as well as the
> white one with red type I couldn't make out, I can see from above at
> about a 70 degree angle. As Johnny used to say, "I did not know that."
Except that there's no red type. It's light (super light) grey.
?
Mark² wrote:
> I'm curious to discover what people's monitors are registering/not
> registering in terms of shadow details and highlight details.
>
> Please indicate a whether you can read the text in each of the following:
>
> Dark image sample:
> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/76619046/original
> Light image sample:
> http://upload.pbase.com/markuson/ima...28594/original
>
> This becomes significant when discussing some aspets of photos that are
> shared here.
>
> Thanks for you input...and...no cheating!
>
> Mark
>
At first, I thought I could not see anything in either box.
Then I turned out the lights in my office and I could read the message
in the black box.
I could see that there was some writing in the white box but I could not
make out what it said. Then I opened it in PS and tweaked the levels
ever so slightly until I could see "What is 2+2"
Part of this may be due to my lack of visual acuity.
I am 77 years young and one requires 4-5 times as much light at this age
than one does at say 30 years, for the same visual acuity.
I suspect that if I darken my screen enough to see the contents of the
white box, I'll no longer be able to see the contents of the black box.
I'm on the hairy edge right now.
What the hell, I'll give it a try. What can I lose?
Bob Williams
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