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  #21  
Old 09-03-2008, 04:41 PM
Sachin Garg
 
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Default Re: Rawzor beta release (lossless raw compression)


"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:31:45 +0530, Sachin Garg wrote:
>
>> I have just released the first 'with GUI' beta for the lossless raw
>> compression tool I was working on.
>>
>> http://www.rawzor.com
>>
>> We have discussed this here multiple times before but unlike previous
>> techy talks and geeky command line tools :-) this time there is a easily
>> usable GUI tool (screenshot on homepage).
>>
>> For a brief introduction for first time readers, its a lossless
>> compression tool for raw images. It supports images from (almost) all
>> the camera models, getting around 20% to 60% compression depending on
>> raw format.
>>
>> I have also published a nice little graph of space saving achieved by
>> Rawzor on all the different raw formats, and as requested I have also
>> added a supported cameras list.
>>
>> The core is still more or less the same as previous preview release
>> (just a few minor speed improvements). If you were using the previous
>> command-line builds, this version maintains full compatibility with
>> files created with them.
>>
>> For the developers, there is an SDK available to support Rawzor
>> compressed files directly in applications. Format details are available
>> on request (will be published soon).
>>
>> Sachin Garg [India]
>> www.sachingarg.com | www.imagecompression.info

>
> No Linux version. So pretty much worthless to me. I eschew WINE.


I will try to finish the porting as soon as possible.

SG


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  #22  
Old 09-03-2008, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: Rawzor beta release (lossless raw compression)

In article <g9lm5b$7fu$1@aioe.org>, Sachin Garg <sachingarg@c10n.info>
wrote:

> > Sounds great. No Mac port though? Lots of photographers use Mac's you
> > know.

>
> Rawzor's code is fairly portable but I don't have a Mac yet, and they don't
> come cheap :-)


sure they do. get a mac mini, which is more than capable for what you
need to do. for even less money, keep an eye on the refurb section of
the apple store (especially in the next month or so as new models are
introduced and the previous model is sold off on clearance) or hit up
ebay for a used one.
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  #23  
Old 09-03-2008, 08:00 PM
RichA
 
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Default Re: Rawzor beta release (lossless raw compression)

On Sep 2, 3:01 pm, "Sachin Garg" <saching...@c10n.info> wrote:
> I have just released the first 'with GUI' beta for the lossless raw
> compression tool I was working on.
>
> http://www.rawzor.com
>
> We have discussed this here multiple times before but unlike previous techy
> talks and geeky command line tools :-) this time there is a easily usable
> GUI tool (screenshot on homepage).
>
> For a brief introduction for first time readers, its a lossless compression
> tool for raw images. It supports images from (almost) all the camera models,
> getting around 20% to 60% compression depending on raw format.
>
> I have also published a nice little graph of space saving achieved by Rawzor
> on all the different raw formats, and as requested I have also added a
> supported cameras list.
>
> The core is still more or less the same as previous preview release (just a
> few minor speed improvements). If you were using the previous command-line
> builds, this version maintains full compatibility with files created with
> them.
>
> For the developers, there is an SDK available to support Rawzor compressed
> files directly in applications. Format details are available on request
> (will be published soon).
>
> Sachin Garg [India]www.sachingarg.com|www.imagecompression.info


Side issue:
I guess there is no way to mathematically factor-out the AA filter in
a camera to increase resolution, right?
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  #24  
Old 09-03-2008, 08:35 PM
Sachin Garg
 
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Default Re: Rawzor beta release (lossless raw compression)


"RichA" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 2, 3:01 pm, "Sachin Garg" <saching...@c10n.info> wrote:
>> I have just released the first 'with GUI' beta for the lossless raw
>> compression tool I was working on.
>>
>> http://www.rawzor.com
>>
>> We have discussed this here multiple times before but unlike previous
>> techy
>> talks and geeky command line tools :-) this time there is a easily usable
>> GUI tool (screenshot on homepage).
>>
>> For a brief introduction for first time readers, its a lossless
>> compression
>> tool for raw images. It supports images from (almost) all the camera
>> models,
>> getting around 20% to 60% compression depending on raw format.
>>
>> I have also published a nice little graph of space saving achieved by
>> Rawzor
>> on all the different raw formats, and as requested I have also added a
>> supported cameras list.
>>
>> The core is still more or less the same as previous preview release (just
>> a
>> few minor speed improvements). If you were using the previous
>> command-line
>> builds, this version maintains full compatibility with files created with
>> them.
>>
>> For the developers, there is an SDK available to support Rawzor
>> compressed
>> files directly in applications. Format details are available on request
>> (will be published soon).

>
> Side issue:
> I guess there is no way to mathematically factor-out the AA filter in
> a camera to increase resolution, right?


Atleast I am not aware of any.

Sachin Garg [India]
www.sachingarg.com | www.imagecompression.info


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Old 09-03-2008, 08:37 PM
Sachin Garg
 
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Default Re: Rawzor beta release (lossless raw compression)


"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <g9lm5b$7fu$1@aioe.org>, Sachin Garg <sachingarg@c10n.info>
> wrote:
>
>> > Sounds great. No Mac port though? Lots of photographers use Mac's you
>> > know.

>>
>> Rawzor's code is fairly portable but I don't have a Mac yet, and they
>> don't
>> come cheap :-)

>
> sure they do. get a mac mini, which is more than capable for what you
> need to do. for even less money, keep an eye on the refurb section of
> the apple store (especially in the next month or so as new models are
> introduced and the previous model is sold off on clearance) or hit up
> ebay for a used one.


I plan to try running osx in vmware after I upgrade my laptop, will get a
mini if that doesn't work.

SG


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Old 09-03-2008, 09:12 PM
nospam
 
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Default Re: Rawzor beta release (lossless raw compression)

In article <g9mp1q$pde$1@aioe.org>, Sachin Garg <sachingarg@c10n.info>
wrote:

> I plan to try running osx in vmware after I upgrade my laptop, will get a
> mini if that doesn't work.


vmware only supports osx *server*, which costs more than a mini does.
i'm not sure how strictly it's enforced (running osx client in a
virtual machine is an eula violation), but it's not likley to 'just
work' out of the box. keep in mind, a mac mini or a macbook can run
windows, either dual boot or in vmware, as well as linux too. in any
event, if your code compiles in gcc, there should be very few problems
on a mac, if any, for a basic command line tool.
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  #27  
Old 09-03-2008, 10:35 PM
Alan Browne
 
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Default Re: Rawzor beta release (lossless raw compression)

Sachin Garg wrote:
ackup as well if I thought that would streamline anything...).
>
> Rawzor and dng solve different problems. Rawzor is more about preserving the
> original raw format while saving space, dng has a different goal. If you
> prefer dng, so be it.


The twin goals of DNG are preserving the raw data and reducing the file
space. And it does.


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Old 09-03-2008, 10:39 PM
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:35:22 -0400, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Alan
Browne <alan.browne@Freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:


>The twin goals of DNG are preserving the raw data and reducing the file
>space. And it does.


Not 100% unless you choose to save the original raw file inside the dng.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:22 PM
Alan Browne
 
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me@mine.net wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:35:22 -0400, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Alan
> Browne <alan.browne@Freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>
>> The twin goals of DNG are preserving the raw data and reducing the file
>> space. And it does.

>
> Not 100% unless you choose to save the original raw file inside the dng.


To be clear.

DNG _losslessly_ takes the already slightly compressed raw from the
camera and compresses it in size a further 10 - 20% (Maxxum 7D MRW).


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Old 09-03-2008, 11:38 PM
me@mine.net
 
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Default Re: Rawzor beta release (lossless raw compression)

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:22:28 -0400, in rec.photo.digital Alan Browne
<alan.browne@Freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

>me@mine.net wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:35:22 -0400, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Alan
>> Browne <alan.browne@Freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The twin goals of DNG are preserving the raw data and reducing the file
>>> space. And it does.

>>
>> Not 100% unless you choose to save the original raw file inside the dng.

>
>To be clear.
>
>DNG _losslessly_ takes the already slightly compressed raw from the
>camera and compresses it in size a further 10 - 20% (Maxxum 7D MRW).


And to be even clearer, one can NOT recover the original raw FILE unless
one embeds it and then it's larger than the original file to begin with.
While this may not be important to you, it might be for others.
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