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Old 10-02-2007, 11:10 PM
GassMan
 
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Default Question About Memory Card Reader

Can anyone suggest which Memory Card Reader to use for the Sandisk
Extreme III 4.0GB Card?
Thanks
in2bashun@bellsouth.net
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:29 PM
John Bean
 
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Default Re: Question About Memory Card Reader

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:10:32 -0400, GassMan
<in2bashun@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Can anyone suggest which Memory Card Reader to use for the Sandisk
>Extreme III 4.0GB Card?


I suggest a Sandisk Extreme Reader, whatever the card :-)

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Old 10-02-2007, 11:44 PM
PCs Rule
 
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"GassMan" <in2bashun@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3eg5g3p6i259ulml8j2naq58ubskpeajl4@4ax.com...
> Can anyone suggest which Memory Card Reader to use for the Sandisk
> Extreme III 4.0GB Card?
> Thanks
> in2bashun@bellsouth.net


I use a Kingston FCR-HS215/1. It's pretty fast and has no problem with
either a Sandisk or a Toshiba SDHC 4 gig.
I forgot to say that it's also inexpensive (about $14 at buy.com)


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Old 10-03-2007, 12:13 AM
Mardon
 
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Default Re: Question About Memory Card Reader

John Bean <waterfoot@gmail.com> wrote:

> I suggest a Sandisk Extreme Reader, whatever the card :-)


I use SanDisk 4GB Extreme III and Extreme IV cards. I started with an
Imagemate 12 in 1 SanDisk reader. It took a long time for downloads, so I
went to a SanDisk Extreme firewire reader connected to a firewire 400 card
(the reader supports firewire 800 too). I thought it would speed up
downloads to the computer. It did not. Even with a SanDisk Extreme IV
card in the Extreme reader, I average about 6.5 MB/sec, 7 MB/sec tops.
It's not the computer that's the bottleneck either. I have an HP6400
workstation (dual 3.6 Xeon processors), with 500 GB internal storage and 1+
TB external storage. I expected to get close to 30 MB/sec downloads. Can
anyone suggest the problem or does everyone find the same thing? BTW, my
workstation is dual boot; XP Pro and Vista Ultimate. Both operating
systems give about the same download speeds.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:27 AM
John Bean
 
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Default Re: Question About Memory Card Reader

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 01:13:15 +0200 (CEST), Mardon
<mgb72mgb@hotmail.com> wrote:

>John Bean <waterfoot@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suggest a Sandisk Extreme Reader, whatever the card :-)

>
>I use SanDisk 4GB Extreme III and Extreme IV cards. I started with an
>Imagemate 12 in 1 SanDisk reader. It took a long time for downloads, so I
>went to a SanDisk Extreme firewire reader connected to a firewire 400 card
>(the reader supports firewire 800 too). I thought it would speed up
>downloads to the computer. It did not. Even with a SanDisk Extreme IV
>card in the Extreme reader, I average about 6.5 MB/sec, 7 MB/sec tops.
>It's not the computer that's the bottleneck either. I have an HP6400
>workstation (dual 3.6 Xeon processors), with 500 GB internal storage and 1+
>TB external storage. I expected to get close to 30 MB/sec downloads. Can
>anyone suggest the problem or does everyone find the same thing? BTW, my
>workstation is dual boot; XP Pro and Vista Ultimate. Both operating
>systems give about the same download speeds.


I'm sorry about your Firewire issues but I very much doubt
it's the reader. My USB Extreme reader gives 16MB/s on my
rather old Sempron 2600+ PC under XP Pro so I know the
Sandisk readers perform as advertised. That's why I made the
recommendation.

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Old 10-03-2007, 01:38 AM
John McWilliams
 
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Default Re: Question About Memory Card Reader

GassMan wrote:
> Can anyone suggest which Memory Card Reader to use for the Sandisk
> Extreme III 4.0GB Card?
> Thanks
> in2bashun@bellsouth.net


Any firewire reader beats any USB type, with perhaps the odd exception.

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John McWilliams
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:50 AM
Ron Hunter
 
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Default Re: Question About Memory Card Reader

Mardon wrote:
> John Bean <waterfoot@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suggest a Sandisk Extreme Reader, whatever the card :-)

>
> I use SanDisk 4GB Extreme III and Extreme IV cards. I started with an
> Imagemate 12 in 1 SanDisk reader. It took a long time for downloads, so I
> went to a SanDisk Extreme firewire reader connected to a firewire 400 card
> (the reader supports firewire 800 too). I thought it would speed up
> downloads to the computer. It did not. Even with a SanDisk Extreme IV
> card in the Extreme reader, I average about 6.5 MB/sec, 7 MB/sec tops.
> It's not the computer that's the bottleneck either. I have an HP6400
> workstation (dual 3.6 Xeon processors), with 500 GB internal storage and 1+
> TB external storage. I expected to get close to 30 MB/sec downloads. Can
> anyone suggest the problem or does everyone find the same thing? BTW, my
> workstation is dual boot; XP Pro and Vista Ultimate. Both operating
> systems give about the same download speeds.


If you have a USB interface, then the drivers for it may be the problem.
The 480mbps ratings are more than a bit optimistic. You might try
getting a firewire, or firewire 2 interface, and reader.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:57 AM
John Bean
 
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Default Re: Question About Memory Card Reader

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 03:41:03 +0200 (CEST), Mardon
<mgb72mgb@hotmail.com> wrote:

>John Bean <waterfoot@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry about your Firewire issues but I very much doubt
>> it's the reader. My USB Extreme reader gives 16MB/s on my
>> rather old Sempron 2600+ PC under XP Pro so I know the
>> Sandisk readers perform as advertised. That's why I made the
>> recommendation.

>
>I didn't mean to imply that I thought my problem is the reader; I don't. I
>don't think it's the firewire connection either though. I capture digital
>video at 720x40, 29.97 fps though that same port and never drop a frame. I
>have no idea what the problem is. Strange that it does it with both OS's
>too. I download from the card by just opening the CF card in Windows
>Explorer and dragging the files to another folder in Windows Explorer. If
>you do your downloads this way, do you still get high speeds?


Yes. Even when using an image import program that renames
every file from the EXIF data it finds I still get in excess
of 13MB/s.

I'm not convinced that Firewire is well supported by Windows
PCs, I once had (past tense) a Firewire card and reader
because it seemed like a good idea at the time, but I gave
it up as a bad job and returned to USB.

It's odd how exactly the reverse is true on a Mac, where
users often report flaky USB performance but Firewire is
normally solid as a rock.

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Old 10-03-2007, 10:13 AM
anna
 
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Default Re: Question About Memory Card Reader

On Oct 2, 11:10 pm, GassMan <in2bas...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Can anyone suggest which Memory Card Reader to use for the Sandisk
> Extreme III 4.0GB Card?
> Thanks
> in2bas...@bellsouth.net


HI there i am at college studing photography and have been advised to
use sandisk readers on my memory cards.
hope that helps

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Old 10-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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"Mardon" <mgb72mgb@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns99BDD2C713DECmgb72mgbhotmailcom@194.177.96 .78...
> John Bean <waterfoot@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I suggest a Sandisk Extreme Reader, whatever the card :-)

>
> I use SanDisk 4GB Extreme III and Extreme IV cards. I started with an
> Imagemate 12 in 1 SanDisk reader. It took a long time for downloads, so I
> went to a SanDisk Extreme firewire reader connected to a firewire 400 card
> (the reader supports firewire 800 too). I thought it would speed up
> downloads to the computer. It did not. Even with a SanDisk Extreme IV
> card in the Extreme reader, I average about 6.5 MB/sec, 7 MB/sec tops.
> It's not the computer that's the bottleneck either. I have an HP6400
> workstation (dual 3.6 Xeon processors), with 500 GB internal storage and 1+
> TB external storage. I expected to get close to 30 MB/sec downloads. Can
> anyone suggest the problem or does everyone find the same thing? BTW, my
> workstation is dual boot; XP Pro and Vista Ultimate. Both operating
> systems give about the same download speeds.


What firewire card are you using?

In XP, have you applied MS Hotfix KB885222 (it specifically
addressed slow firewire transfers).

Also check to see if the firewire card is sharing resources, such
as IRQ or I/O addresses with another device in the computer.

Try changing PCI slots for the card and see if throughput
improves.

Also check for driver updates for the card.


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