Is photography going downhill with digital?

In message <2009110407011050073-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes
>On 2009-11-04 06:24:05 -0800, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> said:
>
>> In message <jdr2f5lm8n2hf9trp4ojpvh4g2sl5t8vc8@4ax.com>, Data Point
>> <datapoint@someisp.org> writes
>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:43 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <-------------------------------------Le Snip---------------------
>>>>--------------------------->
>
>
>
>> So you say
>>
>>> Contrary to your misguided, misinformed, and inexperienced
>>> opinion.
>> But Datapoint@someisp.org has no experience so any experience I
>>have is
>> greater. If you have the experience you claim you will have no problem
>> identifying yourself.
>
>He is never going to truly identify himself since it is our P&S pal of
>many names.

I suspected as much. If he has done half as much as he claims he would
be able to point us to a web site full of his work.

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:24:03 +0100, van dark <van.dark@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Hallo Data point,
>please, say me which camera is exactly perfectly right
>for your job. My job is similar one.
>Thanks.

For that particular extended wilderness trek back then (there's been many
more months-long treks since, and newer cameras bought since then), I used
a Sony F717 with the VCL-HQD1758 tel-extender. The best in any cameras and
optics that I could find that year. They had no equals for durability,
dependability, image quality, and the widest range of capabilities with its
included macro, IR imaging, and higher EVF resolution than many present-day
cameras. As well as the unique and extremely handy swiveling body that
allows you to also use the EVF, not just the LCD, in awkward framing
situations. I wish they'd make cameras like that again. Few cameras even
today can beat the images from that model. Newer is not always better.
5-megapixels is more than anyone needs for 11"x14" prints (and larger,
subject dependent) if the optics and sensor are good. 3 megapixels was
already shown to compete with the finest-grain 35mm films many years ago.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:01:10 -0800, Savageduck
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

>On 2009-11-04 06:24:05 -0800, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> said:
>
>> In message <jdr2f5lm8n2hf9trp4ojpvh4g2sl5t8vc8@4ax.com>, Data Point
>> <datapoint@someisp.org> writes
>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:43 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <-------------------------------------Le
>>>> Snip------------------------------------------------>
>
>
>
>> So you say
>>
>>> Contrary to your misguided, misinformed, and inexperienced
>>> opinion.
>>
>>
>> But Datapoint@someisp.org has no experience so any experience I have is
>> greater. If you have the experience you claim you will have no problem
>> identifying yourself.
>
>He is never going to truly identify himself since it is our P&S pal of
>many names.

And you're just a useless poorly snapshooting DSLR-Troll of one name(?)
this year.

LOL!

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:40:35 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:

>In message <2009110407011050073-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck
><savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes
>>On 2009-11-04 06:24:05 -0800, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> said:
>>
>>> In message <jdr2f5lm8n2hf9trp4ojpvh4g2sl5t8vc8@4ax.com>, Data Point
>>> <datapoint@someisp.org> writes
>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:43 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <-------------------------------------Le Snip---------------------
>>>>>--------------------------->
>>
>>
>>
>>> So you say
>>>
>>>> Contrary to your misguided, misinformed, and inexperienced
>>>> opinion.
>>> But Datapoint@someisp.org has no experience so any experience I
>>>have is
>>> greater. If you have the experience you claim you will have no problem
>>> identifying yourself.
>>
>>He is never going to truly identify himself since it is our P&S pal of
>>many names.
>
>I suspected as much. If he has done half as much as he claims he would
>be able to point us to a web site full of his work.

Totally removed from the net about 4 years ago because useless trolls like
you were stealing them. One of the 8 or so websites had over 500 images
posted from only one of my yearly wilderness-treks. All gone, thanks to
useless DSLR trolls like you.

Boo hoo.

Too bad.

As if any self-respecting person on earth would ever want to enrich your
basement-living trolls' life for free. LOL!

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:32:46 -0600, Data Point <datapoint@someisp.org>
wrote in <uav3f5th4ak7mc6vhll8sq3aoskpsh99nk@4ax.com>:

>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:24:03 +0100, van dark <van.dark@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Hallo Data point,
>>please, say me which camera is exactly perfectly right
>>for your job. My job is similar one.
>>Thanks.
>
>For that particular extended wilderness trek back then (there's been many
>more months-long treks since, and newer cameras bought since then), I used
>a Sony F717 with the VCL-HQD1758 tel-extender. The best in any cameras and
>optics that I could find that year. They had no equals for durability,
>dependability, image quality, and the widest range of capabilities with its
>included macro, IR imaging, and higher EVF resolution than many present-day
>cameras. As well as the unique and extremely handy swiveling body that
>allows you to also use the EVF, not just the LCD, in awkward framing
>situations. I wish they'd make cameras like that again. Few cameras even
>today can beat the images from that model. Newer is not always better.
>5-megapixels is more than anyone needs for 11"x14" prints (and larger,
>subject dependent) if the optics and sensor are good. 3 megapixels was
>already shown to compete with the finest-grain 35mm films many years ago.

It actually takes more like 12 MP to best the best 35 mm film images.
What was famously shown is that 3 MP digital can edge out film in 8x10
prints, but not at larger sizes.

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams

In message <gc04f5dfubctsdch2bssbe96gfoc7bke71@4ax.com>, Data Point
<datapoint@someisp.org> writes
>On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:40:35 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:
>
>>In message <2009110407011050073-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck
>><savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes
>>>On 2009-11-04 06:24:05 -0800, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> said:
>>>
>>>> In message <jdr2f5lm8n2hf9trp4ojpvh4g2sl5t8vc8@4ax.com>, Data Point
>>>> <datapoint@someisp.org> writes
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:43 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <-------------------------------------Le Snip---------------------
>>>>>>--------------------------->
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> So you say
>>>>
>>>>> Contrary to your misguided, misinformed, and inexperienced
>>>>> opinion.
>>>> But Datapoint@someisp.org has no experience so any experience I
>>>>have is
>>>> greater. If you have the experience you claim you will have no problem
>>>> identifying yourself.
>>>
>>>He is never going to truly identify himself since it is our P&S pal of
>>>many names.
>>
>>I suspected as much. If he has done half as much as he claims he would
>>be able to point us to a web site full of his work.
>
>Totally removed from the net about 4 years ago because useless trolls like
>you were stealing them.

Never stolen a photo in my life. Why would I want to?

> One of the 8 or so websites had over 500 images
>posted from only one of my yearly wilderness-treks. All gone, thanks to
>useless DSLR trolls like you.

Then you will have no trouble giving your real name. Otherwise you are
just another wanna be troll


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\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/
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Chris H wrote:
> In message <2009110407011050073-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes
>> On 2009-11-04 06:24:05 -0800, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> said:
>>
>>> In message <jdr2f5lm8n2hf9trp4ojpvh4g2sl5t8vc8@4ax.com>, Data Point
>>> <datapoint@someisp.org> writes
>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:43 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <-------------------------------------Le Snip---------------------
>>>>> --------------------------->
>>
>>
>>> So you say
>>>
>>>> Contrary to your misguided, misinformed, and inexperienced
>>>> opinion.
>>> But Datapoint@someisp.org has no experience so any experience I
>>> have is
>>> greater. If you have the experience you claim you will have no problem
>>> identifying yourself.
>> He is never going to truly identify himself since it is our P&S pal of
>> many names.
>
> I suspected as much. If he has done half as much as he claims he would
> be able to point us to a web site full of his work.

Don't hold your breath waiting for the P&S troll to point out any of his
work.

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Data Point wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:40:35 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:
>
>> In message <2009110407011050073-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes
>>> On 2009-11-04 06:24:05 -0800, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> said:
>>>
>>>> In message <jdr2f5lm8n2hf9trp4ojpvh4g2sl5t8vc8@4ax.com>, Data Point
>>>> <datapoint@someisp.org> writes
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:43 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <-------------------------------------Le Snip---------------------
>>>>>> --------------------------->
>>>
>>>
>>>> So you say
>>>>
>>>>> Contrary to your misguided, misinformed, and inexperienced
>>>>> opinion.
>>>> But Datapoint@someisp.org has no experience so any experience I
>>>> have is
>>>> greater. If you have the experience you claim you will have no problem
>>>> identifying yourself.
>>> He is never going to truly identify himself since it is our P&S pal of
>>> many names.
>> I suspected as much. If he has done half as much as he claims he would
>> be able to point us to a web site full of his work.
>
> Totally removed from the net

Gee, what a surprise.


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Data Point wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:24:03 +0100, van dark <van.dark@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hallo Data point,
>> please, say me which camera is exactly perfectly right
>> for your job. My job is similar one.
>> Thanks.
>
> For that particular extended wilderness trek back then (there's been many
> more months-long treks since, and newer cameras bought since then), I used
> a Sony F717 with the VCL-HQD1758 tel-extender.

HAHAHahahahahahahahaha!


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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:05:03 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Data Point wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:24:03 +0100, van dark <van.dark@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hallo Data point,
>>> please, say me which camera is exactly perfectly right
>>> for your job. My job is similar one.
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> For that particular extended wilderness trek back then (there's been many
>> more months-long treks since, and newer cameras bought since then), I used
>> a Sony F717 with the VCL-HQD1758 tel-extender.
>
>HAHAHahahahahahahahaha!

I have a large number of excellent photographs I took with mine. I
found it a very good camera.



Eric Stevens