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Old 02-06-2008, 06:09 PM
user@domain.invalid
 
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Default looking for "cheap" digital camera

I need advice.

I'm looking for a camera for a special "scientific" purpose. Our old things
are dying.

I just need to take picture of a fluorescent screen. It's about 8 inches in diameter and
green and dim. My Canon 30D takes excellent pictures at ISO 800 and a second or so
exposure. I know that say an XTi would work fine. BUT ... it is in an
undergrad lab and we would have to worry a lot about theft, or keep it in
a locked place, a terrible pain. It will be permanently tied down, and could
be epoxied to a secure tether.

What I need is:

manual exposure in the seconds range ... if a small sensor P&S could
do 10 seconds the small pixels would be OK.

MANUAL FOCUS because the screen is dim and rather 3D. My 30D can focus on it,
unreliably.

Picture quality is immaterial. Megapixels are a minus ... 1 MP would be fine.
JPEG will do, ideally uncompressed RAW would be better. If lots of pixels,
downsampled JPEGS would be good too.

The field of view we need is about 8 inches diameter at about 4 feet, which
works out to be 10 degrees, so a long zoom or a modest zoom plus lots of
digital zoom would be needed. Remember, the crap quality from digital
zoom is OK if a long enough exposure.

Finally ... having it computer controllable like my 30D is
would be nice.

Budget is $600, BUT, cheaper is better because its less likely to be stolen.

We may have to pay for the manual focus ... its THAT that has me asking
the question.


Any suggestions?

Doug McDonald
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:37 PM
Zhiyong Sun
 
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Default Re: looking for "cheap" digital camera

I am new to this newsgroup but I think an olympus E410/510 with its kit lens
(28mm-300mm equivalent) can do the job for you as it has everything you need

use 2.5' LCD to do live view and focus, you can do just the regular manual
focus or a 10X magnification, won't miss any focus by this way.
10m great IQ
bulb exposure if you want
Computer controllable but you need the Olympus studio which is about $100 I
think, you may try it for free of course.
good high iso (not as good as canon but much better than P&S)

E410 wtih two lens kit can be had for less than $700. Or just get a E410/510
body and get a single lens that can do the job. I got a 50mm (100ml equiv)
F1.8 manual lens for $30.



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Old 02-06-2008, 10:31 PM
Martin Brown
 
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Default Re: looking for "cheap" digital camera

In message <foct7o$3ok$1@news.acm.uiuc.edu>, user@domain.invalid writes
>I need advice.
>
>I'm looking for a camera for a special "scientific" purpose. Our old things
>are dying.
>
>I just need to take picture of a fluorescent screen. It's about 8
>inches in diameter and
>green and dim. My Canon 30D takes excellent pictures at ISO 800 and a
>second or so
>exposure. I know that say an XTi would work fine. BUT ... it is in an
>undergrad lab and we would have to worry a lot about theft, or keep it in
>a locked place, a terrible pain. It will be permanently tied down, and could
>be epoxied to a secure tether.
>
>What I need is:
>
>manual exposure in the seconds range ... if a small sensor P&S could
>do 10 seconds the small pixels would be OK.
>
>MANUAL FOCUS because the screen is dim and rather 3D. My 30D can focus on it,
>unreliably.
>
>Picture quality is immaterial. Megapixels are a minus ... 1 MP would be fine.
>JPEG will do, ideally uncompressed RAW would be better. If lots of pixels,
>downsampled JPEGS would be good too.
>
>The field of view we need is about 8 inches diameter at about 4 feet, which
>works out to be 10 degrees, so a long zoom or a modest zoom plus lots of
>digital zoom would be needed. Remember, the crap quality from digital
>zoom is OK if a long enough exposure.
>
>Finally ... having it computer controllable like my 30D is
>would be nice.
>
>Budget is $600, BUT, cheaper is better because its less likely to be stolen.
>
>We may have to pay for the manual focus ... its THAT that has me asking
>the question.
>
>
>Any suggestions?


Two thoughts. Find a second hand DC-120 which although a bit crude and
elderly might be sensitive enough to do what you want and can be
computer controlled (RS232 so a bit slow). It is also so old and cheap
now that no-one will pinch it. It is a bit noisy by modern standards and
has a warm corner of the CCD with extra noise at the 8 & 16s exposures.

The other is that you should take a look at some of the tethered low
light monochrome cameras sold for amateur astronomy and industrial use.
You should not need active thermoelectric cooling for 10-20s exposures
so you may be able to find something computer controlled via USB with
manual focus (ie takes M42 or T mount lenses). You don't need very a
fancy one.

I suspect $600 will not get you a Mpixel class low light precision
camera. Closest I could see offhand was the Meade one.

http://www.buytelescopes.com/product...&pid=10340&m=2

I don't know if it is as good at its brochure claims...

Regards,
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