"Clive" <clive@cs.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone done any comparisons with hybrio type batteries against other
> types?
>
> Thanks
>
> Clive
gerrit wrote:
> "Clive" <clive@cs.com> wrote in message
> news:JLKgi.13103$p8.9056@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> Has anyone done any comparisons with hybrio type batteries against other
>> types?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Clive
>
> Have a look here.
>
> http://www.users.on.net/~mhains/Reviews.html
So they're slightly less capacity than the eneloop, yet more expensive!
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.users.on.net/~mhains/Reviews.html
>> So they're slightly less capacity than the eneloop, yet more expensive!
>>
>
> So, how did you come up with that tidbit?
>
> Sanyo eneloop [2000AA] 12th charge
> 216.91 mins
>
>
> UNiROSS Hybrio 2100AA, 12th charge
> 241.5 mins
My mistake, I was looking at the "out of box Hybrio" versus the 12th
charge eneloop. Sorry.
The Hybrio's do appear to be more expensive. $20 for 8 Eneloops from
Amazon, versus 14.12 for four Hybrio's from Amazon.
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.users.on.net/~mhains/Reviews.html
>>> So they're slightly less capacity than the eneloop, yet more expensive!
>>>
>>
>> So, how did you come up with that tidbit?
>>
>> Sanyo eneloop [2000AA] 12th charge
>> 216.91 mins
>>
>>
>> UNiROSS Hybrio 2100AA, 12th charge
>> 241.5 mins
>
> My mistake, I was looking at the "out of box Hybrio" versus the 12th
> charge eneloop. Sorry.
>
> The Hybrio's do appear to be more expensive. $20 for 8 Eneloops from
> Amazon, versus 14.12 for four Hybrio's from Amazon.
The Hybrios are made by Spectrum, as are the Rayovac Hybrid. So far, I have
had good luck with the Rayovac Hybrid and they can be purchased at Target and
Walmart for about $8.99 for four AA or AAA.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:56:46 -0700, SMS
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>The Hybrio's do appear to be more expensive. $20 for 8 Eneloops from
>Amazon, versus 14.12 for four Hybrio's from Amazon.
Maybe in the US. Here they're both cheaper and easier to get
hold of than Eneloop.
John Bean wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:56:46 -0700, SMS
> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>> The Hybrio's do appear to be more expensive. $20 for 8 Eneloops from
>> Amazon, versus 14.12 for four Hybrio's from Amazon.
>
> Maybe in the US. Here they're both cheaper and easier to get
> hold of than Eneloop.
>
I've seen what appears to be hybrids from Kodak, a smidgeon cheaper at
WalMart than Ray-O-Vacs. Has anyone tried these? Strictly curiosity, as
I'm extremely happy with my two sets of Ray-O-Vacs.
Allen
SMS wrote:
> gerrit wrote:
>> "Clive" <clive@cs.com> wrote in message
>> news:JLKgi.13103$p8.9056@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>> Has anyone done any comparisons with hybrio type batteries against other
>>> types?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Clive
>>
>> Have a look here.
>>
>> http://www.users.on.net/~mhains/Reviews.html
>
> So they're slightly less capacity than the eneloop, yet more expensive!
>
I'm assuming the op was interested in self discharge properties, since
other than that there's nothing special about hybrid or eneloop.
I think a perusal of other posts on this topic will indicate unanimous
satisfaction with the performance of this type as regards self discharge.
Charts and tables are all very well, but I'm far more interested if I
can pick up my camera after 3 months of more of non use and shoot away
and then repeat this 3 months later than whether I match the 650 'quick
shots' I got or what I assume will be the smaller number when I have to
recharge again.
Dave Cohen
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:25:15 GMT, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>>> So, how did you come up with that tidbit?
>>>
>>> Sanyo eneloop [2000AA] 12th charge
>>> 216.91 mins
>>>
>>>
>>> UNiROSS Hybrio 2100AA, 12th charge
>>> 241.5 mins
>>
>> My mistake, I was looking at the "out of box Hybrio" versus the 12th
>> charge eneloop. Sorry.
>>
>> The Hybrio's do appear to be more expensive. $20 for 8 Eneloops from
>> Amazon, versus 14.12 for four Hybrio's from Amazon.
>
> The Hybrios are made by Spectrum, as are the Rayovac Hybrid. So far, I have
> had good luck with the Rayovac Hybrid and they can be purchased at Target and
> Walmart for about $8.99 for four AA or AAA.
Then there's a slight possibility that the Hybrids are the same as
the Hybrios. They both can be rated higher than 2,100 mAh or much
lower than 2,000 mAh depending on the manufacturer's choice of the
load used to determine the cell's capacity rating. That said, the
Hybrios are rated as having 5% greater capacity than the Eneloops,
yet they require 11% more time to charge, suggesting that the 2,100
mAh rating may be conservative, Eneloop's 2,000 mAh rating is
optimistic, or quite possibly, sample variation is skewing the
results, as it is very close to the 5% to 10% expected variation
mentioned for Table 1, where it says :
> any battery set within 5-10% of each other can be considered
> as equal in performance.
The author may know something about batteries, but either doesn't
know much about cameras, or the "Methodology" section was written
more than a couple of years ago. It says :
> Alkaline batteries are not suitable for digital cameras as the power
> is demanded faster than what an alkaline battery can deliver.
yet even though he tested the batteries at a far greater load than
today's cameras draw (5 ohms), the 'Doc' was surprised at how long
alkalines lasted compared to NiMH batteries, 75 minutes for the
Duracell alkalines vs. 133 minutes for the Sanyo Eneloops. Compare
these times with a modern camera. Canon's A630/A640, using alkaline
batteries, can shoot up to 1,200 images and has a playback time on
the LCD display of 20 hours. Alkalines sure don't seem unsuitable
for use in Canon's A Series cameras, nor in my comparable Fuji
camera, nor in several Kodak and Nikon models.
Hybrio batteries? 
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