Stefan Patric wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:33:45 -0400, David Ruether wrote:
>
>> "Stefan Patric" <not@thisaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news9aek.20444$YO1.96@newsfe08.phx...
>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:41:10 -0700, Ben wrote:
>>>> Got an indoor ****tail party/silent auction shoot coming up, and I
>>>> need suggestions on a good homemade diffuser which will be used on-
>>>> camera. I've used a milk jug, to some pretty good results, but it's a
>>>> little bulky to be lugging around. Isopropyl alcohol bottle?
>>>> Suggestions?
>>> Instead of a homemade one, which can cause color shifts or uneven
>>> coverage, just buy a Sto-Fen Omni-Bounce. Best $20 investment I ever
>>> made. Works best with tilt-head flash tilted up about 35 to 45
>>> degrees.
>>>
>>> Stef
>> While most people think they want to "diffuse" the light source, what is
>> really needed is to enlarge it (relative to the bare flash head size).
>> This is the ONLY thing that will soften shadow edges, and this can be
>> accomplished by increasing the effective size of the light source, or by
>> using bounce illumination. Adding a small diffuser to the end of a flash
>> head does nothing unless reflective surfaces are very close to the
>> subject. As for color shifts and uneven lighting, these are unlikely
>> unless there is something unusually wrong with the homemade setup, or
>> the WB is locked down...
>
> While that may be true with neophytes, the OP seemed to know what he was
> talking about and what he wanted.
>
> As to the Sto-Fen diffuser, it works surprising well for something so
> small. I've used softboxes and umbrellas with portable flashes on camera
> before and, although they work and give beautiful results, they are too
> unwieldy, particularly in crowded conditions, and loose too much light.
> And while the Sto-Fen does not equal softbox results, it's an excellent
> compromise.
>
> Stef
>
The other language thread on here should include those ignorant fools,
mostly American, who use loose when they mean lose. Such people also use
either allot or alot when they mean a lot. The quality of education in
the US is as abysmal as everything else that is US in origin. No wonder
a bunch of camel molesters is beating the crap out of them. You'd think
that after Korea and Vietnam they'd have learned a lesson, but no, they
keep biting off more than they can chew then choking on it.
LV
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>
> The other language thread on here should include those ignorant fools,
> mostly American, who use loose when they mean lose. Such people also use
> either allot or alot when they mean a lot. The quality of education in
> the US is as abysmal as everything else that is US in origin. No wonder
> a bunch of camel molesters is beating the crap out of them. You'd think
> that after Korea and Vietnam they'd have learned a lesson, but no, they
> keep biting off more than they can chew then choking on it.
A lady doesn't spew ignorant parochialism such as this.
Rita Berkowitz wrote:
>
> Dave wrote:
>
> >> I'm not sure if it's just the lighting in your picture or your
> >> bottle is the cloudy white plastic and isn't as translucent as
> >> mine? It might not matter much, but I found from experimenting
> >> that it ate too much light. If you haven't you might want to
> >> try a slightly clearer bottle and leave the top on. Yes, add the
> >> reflective tape as it brings up the overall light distribution
> >> and takes less power to get the desired lighting. I've built
> >> mine in the D200/D2x days and found this to work great. It's
> >> even better on the D3. At the end of the day you will need to
> >> experiment to find what works best for your shooting style and
> >> needs.
> >
> > Hey RB,
> >
> > What bottle is that?
>
> Just an empty alcohol bottle. Oh, I did forget to add that this
> does work great for macro lighting.
>
> Rita
Hello, Rita:
Alcohol bottle, hmmm? Drunkenness >could< explain the incoherence
(and otherwise poor quality) of your pathetic troll attempts, at
that. :-J
In article <D9aek.20444$YO1.96@newsfe08.phx>, Stefan Patric
<not@thisaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:41:10 -0700, Ben wrote:
>
> > Got an indoor ****tail party/silent auction shoot coming up, and I need
> > suggestions on a good homemade diffuser which will be used on- camera.
> > I've used a milk jug, to some pretty good results, but it's a little
> > bulky to be lugging around. Isopropyl alcohol bottle? Suggestions?
>
> Instead of a homemade one, which can cause color shifts or uneven
> coverage, just buy a Sto-Fen Omni-Bounce. Best $20 investment I ever
> made. Works best with tilt-head flash tilted up about 35 to 45 degrees.
>
> Stef
I'll second Stef's comment.
I was amazed at how well the Omin-Bounce works. Tilted up at 45
degrees.
As others have noted, it doesn't create a bigger light source, so I
puzzled about how it works. The omni bounce at 45 degrees throws some
light right towards the subject, but sends most to the ceiling for
bounce lighting. Somehow, Sto-fen got the formula about right. It gives
quite diffuse lighting.
The alcohol bottle should also work pretty well. I wouldn't try too
hard with the reflective tape, my conclusion from using the Omni Bounce
is that the bounce portion of the lighting really helps.
I used to use a cardboard contraption to hold a 10 inch square
reflector at 45 degrees. This created a much bigger light source, but
the result is just not as good as the Sto-fen Omni-Bounce, as long as
there's a reasonably white ceiling in reach.
-=- Rick
--
Richard Karash <Richard@Karash.com>
Richard "at" Karash "dot" com
"Richard Karash" <Richard@Karash.com> wrote in message
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> In article <D9aek.20444$YO1.96@newsfe08.phx>, Stefan Patric
> <not@thisaddress.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:41:10 -0700, Ben wrote:
>>
>> > Got an indoor ****tail party/silent auction shoot coming up, and I need
>> > suggestions on a good homemade diffuser which will be used on- camera.
>> > I've used a milk jug, to some pretty good results, but it's a little
>> > bulky to be lugging around. Isopropyl alcohol bottle? Suggestions?
>>
>> Instead of a homemade one, which can cause color shifts or uneven
>> coverage, just buy a Sto-Fen Omni-Bounce. Best $20 investment I ever
>> made. Works best with tilt-head flash tilted up about 35 to 45 degrees.
>>
>> Stef
>
> I'll second Stef's comment.
>
> I was amazed at how well the Omin-Bounce works. Tilted up at 45
> degrees.
>
> As others have noted, it doesn't create a bigger light source, so I
> puzzled about how it works. The omni bounce at 45 degrees throws some
> light right towards the subject, but sends most to the ceiling for
> bounce lighting. Somehow, Sto-fen got the formula about right. It gives
> quite diffuse lighting.
>
> The alcohol bottle should also work pretty well. I wouldn't try too
> hard with the reflective tape, my conclusion from using the Omni Bounce
> is that the bounce portion of the lighting really helps.
>
> I used to use a cardboard contraption to hold a 10 inch square
> reflector at 45 degrees. This created a much bigger light source, but
> the result is just not as good as the Sto-fen Omni-Bounce, as long as
> there's a reasonably white ceiling in reach.
>
> -=- Rick
>
> --
> Richard Karash <Richard@Karash.com>
> Richard "at" Karash "dot" com
Doesn't anybody use the Kleenex taped around the flash anymore?
While it's probably no match for the commercial products available; in a
pinch, it works fairly well.
> Doesn't anybody use the Kleenex taped around the flash anymore?
I've done that (sans tape) within the last few months. Table top
shooting, with two non-adjustable strobes as keys, optically triggered by
on-camera light with an index card in front of it bouncing most of its
light straight up because it was only really needed to fire the slaves.
On Jul 31, 3:31 pm, Richard Karash <Rich...@Karash.com> wrote:
> In article <D9aek.20444$YO1...@newsfe08.phx>, Stefan Patric
>
> <n...@thisaddress.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:41:10 -0700, Ben wrote:
>
> > > Got an indoor ****tail party/silent auction shoot coming up, and I need
> > > suggestions on a good homemade diffuser which will be used on- camera.
> > > I've used a milk jug, to some pretty good results, but it's a little
> > > bulky to be lugging around. Isopropyl alcohol bottle? Suggestions?
>
> > Instead of a homemade one, which can cause color shifts or uneven
> > coverage, just buy a Sto-Fen Omni-Bounce. Best $20 investment I ever
> > made. Works best with tilt-head flash tilted up about 35 to 45 degrees.
>
> > Stef
>
> I'll second Stef's comment.
>
> I was amazed at how well the Omin-Bounce works. Tilted up at 45
> degrees.
>
> As others have noted, it doesn't create a bigger light source, so I
> puzzled about how it works. The omni bounce at 45 degrees throws some
> light right towards the subject, but sends most to the ceiling for
> bounce lighting. Somehow, Sto-fen got the formula about right. It gives
> quite diffuse lighting.
>
> The alcohol bottle should also work pretty well. I wouldn't try too
> hard with the reflective tape, my conclusion from using the Omni Bounce
> is that the bounce portion of the lighting really helps.
>
> I used to use a cardboard contraption to hold a 10 inch square
> reflector at 45 degrees. This created a much bigger light source, but
> the result is just not as good as the Sto-fen Omni-Bounce, as long as
> there's a reasonably white ceiling in reach.
>
> -=- Rick
>
> --
> Richard Karash <Rich...@Karash.com>
> Richard "at" Karash "dot" com
Sometimes I use an alcohol bottle with a piece of high-reflective,
white tape on the back of it. Not quite as diffused, more light to
the front, not quite so dependent of having a low ceiling.
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