J?rgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>J?rgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Dudley Hanks" <dhanks@blind-apertures.ca> wrote:
>>>>In addition to the gels for my flash, I picked up a cable release for my
>>>>Rebel XSi.
>>
>>> A cable release? A real true honest to god cable release? I had no idea
>>> that modern cameras even have a socket for them. I thought all remote
>>> controls were electronic nowadays.
>>
>>My three most modern cameras all have sockets for a cable shutter
>>release,
>>which can either take an electric cable with a double action
>>switch at the end (for the press and half press) or else a radio
>>receiver for a radio controlled shutter release.
> Though so. That's not a cable release, that is a remote control/release,
> either wired or radio controlled.
In my version of English, which is probably a slightly archaic version
of British English, the words wire and cable can apply both to
electrically wired connections and physical Bowden cable
connections. And any kind of shutter release which involves pressing
something distant from the camera body is a remote shutter release,
regardless of whether the connection is electrical, pneumatic,
infra-red, or whatever.
It's also generally speaking the case that British English is less
liable than American English to let usage of common phrases take
semantic precedence over the compositional meaning derived from the
meanings of the individual words.
Doug Jewell wrote:
> Bob Larter wrote:
>> Dudley Hanks wrote:
>>> I'm guessing this has more than just simple switches as well.
>>
>> The standard Canon DSLR cable-release is two simple leaf-switches.
>>
>>> Nowadays, nobody uses simple mechanics when a circuit can be used to
>>> stave off generic copies...
>>
>> Canon uses weird connectors instead...
> On the xxD and xD series cameras they do.
Yep. I have a 10D & a 1Dmk2, both of which use the weird 3 pin
connector. I wish I could just use a stereo jack & wire up my own release.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/1317816870/
> is a little circuit that I cobbled together (I can't quite take full
> credit for it, as the principle was copied), that I use for timed
> control shutter with my old palm pda. With suitable software the same
> circuit could be used for PC Control. I originally did that for use with
> Pentax, but have since tested with Canon.
No good for me, I'm afraid. If I could get hold of the 1D connectors,
I'd jigger up something similar for myself.
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Dudley Hanks wrote:
> "Doug Jewell" <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in message
> news:NumdnTLHwfd7p2zXnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@westnet.com. au...
>> Bob Larter wrote:
>>> Dudley Hanks wrote:
>>>> I'm guessing this has more than just simple switches as well.
>>> The standard Canon DSLR cable-release is two simple leaf-switches.
>>>
>>>> Nowadays, nobody uses simple mechanics when a circuit can be used to
>>>> stave off generic copies...
>>> Canon uses weird connectors instead...
>> On the xxD and xD series cameras they do. On the xxxD series it is a
>> standard 2.5mm stereo headphone socket. The sleeve is the common, the ring
>> is AF Enable and the Tip is Shutter.
>> To start AF you simply need to short the ring to the sleeve, and to take a
>> photo you short the tip to the sleeve.
>> You can use NPN transistors across the terminals for remote controlling.
>> Note that if doing this you need to have 2 NPN transistors - one for AF
>> enable and one for shutter. You cannot simply connect AF Enable and
>> shutter together. If you don't ground AF Enable, it will work on Manual
>> Focus IF the camera is set to Manual Focus, but if the camera goes into
>> it's half-sleep mode the shutter enable won't wake it.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/1317816870/
>> is a little circuit that I cobbled together (I can't quite take full
>> credit for it, as the principle was copied), that I use for timed control
>> shutter with my old palm pda. With suitable software the same circuit
>> could be used for PC Control. I originally did that for use with Pentax,
>> but have since tested with Canon.
>> Both have identical remote control interfaces.
>> I am led to believe that xxD and xD cameras can use the same system IF you
>> have a suitable plug and can work out the connectors.
>>>
>>
>> --
>> What is the difference between a duck?
>
> This is really quite interesting. It definitely leaves the door wide open
> for triggering the camera by remote, and it could help me a lot with my
> style of shooting...
If you need a circuit for your camera, I'd be happy to jigger up a
design for you.
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Bob Larter wrote:
> Doug Jewell wrote:
>> Bob Larter wrote:
>>> Dudley Hanks wrote:
>>>> I'm guessing this has more than just simple switches as well.
>>>
>>> The standard Canon DSLR cable-release is two simple leaf-switches.
>>>
>>>> Nowadays, nobody uses simple mechanics when a circuit can be used
>>>> to stave off generic copies...
>>>
>>> Canon uses weird connectors instead...
>> On the xxD and xD series cameras they do.
>
> Yep. I have a 10D & a 1Dmk2, both of which use the weird 3 pin
> connector. I wish I could just use a stereo jack & wire up my own release.
>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/1317816870/
>> is a little circuit that I cobbled together (I can't quite take full
>> credit for it, as the principle was copied), that I use for timed
>> control shutter with my old palm pda. With suitable software the same
>> circuit could be used for PC Control. I originally did that for use
>> with Pentax, but have since tested with Canon.
>
> No good for me, I'm afraid. If I could get hold of the 1D connectors,
> I'd jigger up something similar for myself.
>
Get hold of a cheap wire remote for your 1D/10D (with N3 connector). Cut
the wire in the middle. Connect a female 2.5 stereo jack to the part
with the N3 plug, and a male 2.5 stereo jack to the part coming from the
switch (or ask a friend with a soldering iron, a multimeter, and some
common sense). Now you have: one cheap wire remote for your 1D/10D plus
one 2.5-jack-to-N3 adapter so that you can connect other stuff (or
insert a 20 yards extension between the two jacks).
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:10:07 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Dudley Hanks wrote:
>> "Doug Jewell" <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in message
>> news:NumdnTLHwfd7p2zXnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@westnet.com. au...
>>> Bob Larter wrote:
>>>> Dudley Hanks wrote:
>>>>> I'm guessing this has more than just simple switches as well.
>>>> The standard Canon DSLR cable-release is two simple leaf-switches.
>>>>
>>>>> Nowadays, nobody uses simple mechanics when a circuit can be used to
>>>>> stave off generic copies...
>>>> Canon uses weird connectors instead...
>>> On the xxD and xD series cameras they do. On the xxxD series it is a
>>> standard 2.5mm stereo headphone socket. The sleeve is the common, the ring
>>> is AF Enable and the Tip is Shutter.
>>> To start AF you simply need to short the ring to the sleeve, and to take a
>>> photo you short the tip to the sleeve.
>>> You can use NPN transistors across the terminals for remote controlling.
>>> Note that if doing this you need to have 2 NPN transistors - one for AF
>>> enable and one for shutter. You cannot simply connect AF Enable and
>>> shutter together. If you don't ground AF Enable, it will work on Manual
>>> Focus IF the camera is set to Manual Focus, but if the camera goes into
>>> it's half-sleep mode the shutter enable won't wake it.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/1317816870/
>>> is a little circuit that I cobbled together (I can't quite take full
>>> credit for it, as the principle was copied), that I use for timed control
>>> shutter with my old palm pda. With suitable software the same circuit
>>> could be used for PC Control. I originally did that for use with Pentax,
>>> but have since tested with Canon.
>>> Both have identical remote control interfaces.
>>> I am led to believe that xxD and xD cameras can use the same system IF you
>>> have a suitable plug and can work out the connectors.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> What is the difference between a duck?
>>
>> This is really quite interesting. It definitely leaves the door wide open
>> for triggering the camera by remote, and it could help me a lot with my
>> style of shooting...
>
>If you need a circuit for your camera, I'd be happy to jigger up a
>design for you.
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:49:58 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up. wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:10:07 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dudley Hanks wrote:
>>>> "Doug Jewell" <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in message
>>>> news:NumdnTLHwfd7p2zXnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@westnet.com. au...
>>>>> Bob Larter wrote:
>>>>>> Dudley Hanks wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm guessing this has more than just simple switches as well.
>>>>>> The standard Canon DSLR cable-release is two simple leaf-switches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nowadays, nobody uses simple mechanics when a circuit can be used to
>>>>>>> stave off generic copies...
>>>>>> Canon uses weird connectors instead...
>>>>> On the xxD and xD series cameras they do. On the xxxD series it is a
>>>>> standard 2.5mm stereo headphone socket. The sleeve is the common, the ring
>>>>> is AF Enable and the Tip is Shutter.
>>>>> To start AF you simply need to short the ring to the sleeve, and to take a
>>>>> photo you short the tip to the sleeve.
>>>>> You can use NPN transistors across the terminals for remote controlling.
>>>>> Note that if doing this you need to have 2 NPN transistors - one for AF
>>>>> enable and one for shutter. You cannot simply connect AF Enable and
>>>>> shutter together. If you don't ground AF Enable, it will work on Manual
>>>>> Focus IF the camera is set to Manual Focus, but if the camera goes into
>>>>> it's half-sleep mode the shutter enable won't wake it.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/1317816870/
>>>>> is a little circuit that I cobbled together (I can't quite take full
>>>>> credit for it, as the principle was copied), that I use for timed control
>>>>> shutter with my old palm pda. With suitable software the same circuit
>>>>> could be used for PC Control. I originally did that for use with Pentax,
>>>>> but have since tested with Canon.
>>>>> Both have identical remote control interfaces.
>>>>> I am led to believe that xxD and xD cameras can use the same system IF you
>>>>> have a suitable plug and can work out the connectors.
>>>>> --
>>>>> What is the difference between a duck?
>>>> This is really quite interesting. It definitely leaves the door wide open
>>>> for triggering the camera by remote, and it could help me a lot with my
>>>> style of shooting...
>>> If you need a circuit for your camera, I'd be happy to jigger up a
>>> design for you.
>>
>>
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>
>Your latest little cut'n'paste message has become spam. You obviously
>want another nastygram from your NSP. ;^)
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Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up. wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:10:07 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dudley Hanks wrote:
>>> "Doug Jewell" <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in message
>>> news:NumdnTLHwfd7p2zXnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@westnet.com. au...
>>>> Bob Larter wrote:
>>>>> Dudley Hanks wrote:
>>>>>> I'm guessing this has more than just simple switches as well.
>>>>> The standard Canon DSLR cable-release is two simple leaf-switches.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nowadays, nobody uses simple mechanics when a circuit can be used to
>>>>>> stave off generic copies...
>>>>> Canon uses weird connectors instead...
>>>> On the xxD and xD series cameras they do. On the xxxD series it is a
>>>> standard 2.5mm stereo headphone socket. The sleeve is the common, the ring
>>>> is AF Enable and the Tip is Shutter.
>>>> To start AF you simply need to short the ring to the sleeve, and to take a
>>>> photo you short the tip to the sleeve.
>>>> You can use NPN transistors across the terminals for remote controlling.
>>>> Note that if doing this you need to have 2 NPN transistors - one for AF
>>>> enable and one for shutter. You cannot simply connect AF Enable and
>>>> shutter together. If you don't ground AF Enable, it will work on Manual
>>>> Focus IF the camera is set to Manual Focus, but if the camera goes into
>>>> it's half-sleep mode the shutter enable won't wake it.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/1317816870/
>>>> is a little circuit that I cobbled together (I can't quite take full
>>>> credit for it, as the principle was copied), that I use for timed control
>>>> shutter with my old palm pda. With suitable software the same circuit
>>>> could be used for PC Control. I originally did that for use with Pentax,
>>>> but have since tested with Canon.
>>>> Both have identical remote control interfaces.
>>>> I am led to believe that xxD and xD cameras can use the same system IF you
>>>> have a suitable plug and can work out the connectors.
>>>> --
>>>> What is the difference between a duck?
>>> This is really quite interesting. It definitely leaves the door wide open
>>> for triggering the camera by remote, and it could help me a lot with my
>>> style of shooting...
>> If you need a circuit for your camera, I'd be happy to jigger up a
>> design for you.
>
>
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Ofnuts wrote:
> Bob Larter wrote:
>> Doug Jewell wrote:
>>> Bob Larter wrote:
>>>> Dudley Hanks wrote:
>>>>> I'm guessing this has more than just simple switches as well.
>>>>
>>>> The standard Canon DSLR cable-release is two simple leaf-switches.
>>>>
>>>>> Nowadays, nobody uses simple mechanics when a circuit can be used
>>>>> to stave off generic copies...
>>>>
>>>> Canon uses weird connectors instead...
>>> On the xxD and xD series cameras they do.
>>
>> Yep. I have a 10D & a 1Dmk2, both of which use the weird 3 pin
>> connector. I wish I could just use a stereo jack & wire up my own
>> release.
>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/1317816870/
>>> is a little circuit that I cobbled together (I can't quite take full
>>> credit for it, as the principle was copied), that I use for timed
>>> control shutter with my old palm pda. With suitable software the same
>>> circuit could be used for PC Control. I originally did that for use
>>> with Pentax, but have since tested with Canon.
>>
>> No good for me, I'm afraid. If I could get hold of the 1D connectors,
>> I'd jigger up something similar for myself.
>>
>
> Get hold of a cheap wire remote for your 1D/10D (with N3 connector). Cut
> the wire in the middle. Connect a female 2.5 stereo jack to the part
> with the N3 plug, and a male 2.5 stereo jack to the part coming from the
> switch
2.5mm plugs are a bit fragile for my taste. If I do that, I'll go with a
metal 6.5mm plug+socket instead.
> (or ask a friend with a soldering iron, a multimeter, and some
> common sense).
I've got all that. ;^)
> Now you have: one cheap wire remote for your 1D/10D plus
> one 2.5-jack-to-N3 adapter so that you can connect other stuff (or
> insert a 20 yards extension between the two jacks).
>
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>> Get hold of a cheap wire remote for your 1D/10D (with N3 connector).
>> Cut the wire in the middle. Connect a female 2.5 stereo jack to the
>> part with the N3 plug, and a male 2.5 stereo jack to the part coming
>> from the switch
>
> 2.5mm plugs are a bit fragile for my taste. If I do that, I'll go with a
> metal 6.5mm plug+socket instead.
They are not fragile on wire (the wire takes the bend). Using a 6.35
jack means that you can't use all the equipment made for Pentax and
entry-level Canon
>> (or ask a friend with a soldering iron, a multimeter, and some common
>> sense).
>
> I've got all that. ;^)
Good. You can replace common sense with wiring diagrams, easy to find on
the net.
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Ofnuts wrote:
> Bob Larter wrote:
>
>>> Get hold of a cheap wire remote for your 1D/10D (with N3 connector).
>>> Cut the wire in the middle. Connect a female 2.5 stereo jack to the
>>> part with the N3 plug, and a male 2.5 stereo jack to the part coming
>>> from the switch
>>
>> 2.5mm plugs are a bit fragile for my taste. If I do that, I'll go with
>> a metal 6.5mm plug+socket instead.
>
> They are not fragile on wire (the wire takes the bend). Using a 6.35
> jack means that you can't use all the equipment made for Pentax and
> entry-level Canon
If I need to do that, I'll use a 3.5mm to 6.5mm adapter. I have a couple
of them in my junk box.
>>> (or ask a friend with a soldering iron, a multimeter, and some common
>>> sense).
>>
>> I've got all that. ;^)
>
> Good. You can replace common sense with wiring diagrams, easy to find on
> the net.
It's easy enough to trace with a multimeter.
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