Any word yet on this? I know it's early days yet, but I'm just curious about
how this little feller is selling. Seems to me it ought to be selling like
the proverbial hot cakes -- I expect to buy mine next week.
On May 17, 3:48 pm, "Neil Harrington" <n...@home.today> wrote:
> Any word yet on this? I know it's early days yet, but I'm just curious about
> how this little feller is selling. Seems to me it ought to be selling like
> the proverbial hot cakes -- I expect to buy mine next week.
>
> Neil
Dpreview says slow as molasses, read this guys take on point and
shoots. They are all crap but serve a purpose. Had enough shutter -
zoom lag when I had a Nikon 995. It is cute though, very similar to
the Canon A series, which is what I have been telling people to buy
lately. I get asked "what P&S camera" a lot.
On May 17, 3:48 pm, "Neil Harrington" <n...@home.today> wrote:
> Any word yet on this? I know it's early days yet, but I'm just curious about
> how this little feller is selling. Seems to me it ought to be selling like
> the proverbial hot cakes -- I expect to buy mine next week.
>
> Neil
"tomm42" <tmonego@wildblue.net> wrote in message
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> On May 17, 3:48 pm, "Neil Harrington" <n...@home.today> wrote:
>> Any word yet on this? I know it's early days yet, but I'm just curious
>> about
>> how this little feller is selling. Seems to me it ought to be selling
>> like
>> the proverbial hot cakes -- I expect to buy mine next week.
>>
>> Neil
>
>
> Dpreview says slow as molasses, read this guys take on point and
> shoots. They are all crap but serve a purpose. Had enough shutter -
> zoom lag when I had a Nikon 995. It is cute though, very similar to
> the Canon A series, which is what I have been telling people to buy
> lately. I get asked "what P&S camera" a lot.
>
> Tom
Well, Coolpix cameras in general have a reputation for shutter lag, but it
has never really bothered me and I have several of them. Maybe I'm just slow
myself. :-)
Frankly, all AF cameras seem pretty fast to me, perhaps because of my long
background with manual focus. I don't agree the so-called P&S cameras are
"all crap," I have DSLRs as well but most of the time when I'm just taking a
camera along for casual stuff I don't want to bother with anything that
large. I have no complaints at all about image quality from the little
fellers.
I certainly won't disagree with you about A-series Canons. I have a few
Canons including an A95, and that is really a terrific camera for the price
I paid for it. But my preference is still for Nikons. Most of the current
Coolpix models do not have the user controls my A95 and other Canons have,
but the P5000 does and it has a hot shoe as well, which is why it appeals to
me.
I've read the DPReview piece on the P5000 along with several others, and
many user reviews too; most are quite enthusiastic about it but a few are
not. Anyway I've decided to hold off on that model for a while, as I think
the later production models are likely to be the best and of course prices
will come down more as well. So in the meantime I've just ordered a Coolpix
S10, another model that I've been hankering for for a while and has now come
down to about $250 online.
Thanks for the link in your next post -- interesting opinions.
On May 19, 10:05 am, "Neil Harrington" <n...@home.today> wrote:
> I don't agree the so-called P&S cameras are
> "all crap," I have DSLRs as well but most of the time when I'm just taking a
> camera along for casual stuff I don't want to bother with anything that
> large.
> but the P5000 does and it has a hot shoe as well, which is why it appeals to
> me.
I can imaging Neil going for a casual walk in the city, and whipping a
small P&S camera (Nikon P5000) out of pocket with a big external flash
unit on it... :-)
That's another thing which baffles me -- why do people need to use
external flash -- when it is known that flash illumination make the
objects look unnatural ? They even demand a hot shoe on a small P&S
camera and are prepared to carry the big flash unit with them (but not
DSLR)...
On May 18, 7:48 pm, carrera d'olbani <dolb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 19, 10:05 am, "Neil Harrington" <n...@home.today> wrote:
>
> > I don't agree the so-called P&S cameras are
> > "all crap," I have DSLRs as well but most of the time when I'm just taking a
> > camera along for casual stuff I don't want to bother with anything that
> > large.
> > but the P5000 does and it has a hot shoe as well, which is why it appeals to
> > me.
>
> I can imaging Neil going for a casual walk in the city, and whipping a
> small P&S camera (Nikon P5000) out of pocket with a big external flash
> unit on it... :-)
>
> That's another thing which baffles me -- why do people need to use
> external flash -- when it is known that flash illumination make the
> objects look unnatural ? They even demand a hot shoe on a small P&S
> camera and are prepared to carry the big flash unit with them (but not
> DSLR)...
A compact camera needs an external flash more then most cameras, the
on camera flash is so close to the lens that red eye is a huge
problem. With an external flash you can often do a ceiling bounce,
and even if you can't the flash is further away from the lens, which
helps a lot.
Having said all that the P5000 does not look all that good to me, it
is very bad at ISO 400 and above coupled with a lens that is far to
slow.
On May 19, 3:03 pm, Scott W <biph...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Having said all that the P5000 does not look all that good to me, it
> is very bad at ISO 400 and above coupled with a lens that is far to
> slow.
Recently, I bought a refurbished Nikon S4 just to play around with it.
About half of the pictures come out blurred. My verdict is that this
camera can be used only with a very good illumination (e.g. on a
bright sunny day). The lens is too slow.
On May 18, 8:38 pm, carrera d'olbani <dolb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 19, 3:03 pm, Scott W <biph...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Having said all that the P5000 does not look all that good to me, it
> > is very bad at ISO 400 and above coupled with a lens that is far to
> > slow.
>
> Recently, I bought a refurbished Nikon S4 just to play around with it.
> About half of the pictures come out blurred. My verdict is that this
> camera can be used only with a very good illumination (e.g. on a
> bright sunny day). The lens is too slow.
I ran into this when a friend and I were shooting together in poor
light, he was getting a lot of shots that I could not get, he was
using a Sony F717 I was using a Nikon 995. He was able to shoot full
telephoto at f/2.4 while I was forced to shoot at f/5.1.
I find that reviews pay a lot of attention to how much noise a camera
has at ISO 400, but very little to how fast its lens is. But a faster
lens can allow you to shoot at a much lower ISO for the same shutter
speed.
With cheap DSLRs available it seems that people are no longer putting
in good optics in compact cameras. A compact camera might have to
live with fairly high noise at ISO 400 and above, but if it has fast
optics and can still be a very useful camera.
I used a Sony F828 for a few years and people would complain that it
had high noise above ISO 100, which it did but it could also shoot at
f/2 wide angle and f/2.8 full telephoto.
I now use a DSLR where I can get good low noise and fast optics at the
same time.
"carrera d'olbani" <dolbani@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On May 19, 10:05 am, "Neil Harrington" <n...@home.today> wrote:
>
>> I don't agree the so-called P&S cameras are
>> "all crap," I have DSLRs as well but most of the time when I'm just
>> taking a
>> camera along for casual stuff I don't want to bother with anything that
>> large.
>
>> but the P5000 does and it has a hot shoe as well, which is why it appeals
>> to
>> me.
>
> I can imaging Neil going for a casual walk in the city, and whipping a
> small P&S camera (Nikon P5000)
So-called P&S. The term "point and shoot" was coined to describe the little
auto-everything 35s. With those cameras that's literally all you could do
with them, point and shoot, since they had no user controls apart from
self-timer and a few flash modes.
The currently popular use of "P&S" to describe everything that isn't an SLR
is just ridiculous. There are virtually *no* digital cameras that are really
limited to point and shoot as those 35s were, and many digital compact
cameras have far more versatility and user control over the end result than
most 35mm SLRs used to. My Coolpix 8400, 8700 and 8800 for example have
capabilities easily comparable to my D70s and D40, and in fact they can
easily do some things that the DSLRs cannot do at all. (And vice versa, of
course.)
> out of pocket with a big external flash
> unit on it... :-)
The point of the hot shoe is that it gives you the *capability* of using an
accessory flash unit, not the need to do so all the time. I don't have an
SB-600 or SB-800 on my DSLRs all the time either.
>
> That's another thing which baffles me -- why do people need to use
> external flash -- when it is known that flash illumination make the
> objects look unnatural ?
That's an odd question. Have you been interested in photography for more
than a couple of months?
> They even demand a hot shoe on a small P&S
> camera and are prepared to carry the big flash unit with them (but not
> DSLR)...
I guess you haven't seen the Nikon SB-400. It's perfectly sized for a camera
like the P5000.
> On May 19, 10:05 am, "Neil Harrington" <n...@home.today> wrote:
>
> > I don't agree the so-called P&S cameras are "all crap," I have DSLRs as
> > well but most of the time when I'm just taking a camera along for casual
> > stuff I don't want to bother with anything that large.
>
> > but the P5000 does and it has a hot shoe as well, which is why it appeals
> > to me.
>
> I can imaging Neil going for a casual walk in the city, and whipping a
> small P&S camera (Nikon P5000) out of pocket with a big external flash
> unit on it... :-)
Nothing says you have to have the flash on the camera at all times.
> That's another thing which baffles me -- why do people need to use
> external flash -- when it is known that flash illumination make the
> objects look unnatural ? They even demand a hot shoe on a small P&S
> camera and are prepared to carry the big flash unit with them (but not
> DSLR)...
I dunno, it sounds like "everybody" who knows that just needs to learn how to
effectively use an external flash to properly light a scene. IMHO, the
on-board flash is only appropriate for doing police lineups, but an external
flash gives you many more possibilities using bounce and various diffusers and
reflectors.
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