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Old 04-18-2007, 07:02 PM
Senin
 
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What color clothing works best when taking black and white photos? My
daughter is going to have black and white pictures taken and we re
trying to figure out what color clothing show the best. Any
suggestions?

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Old 04-18-2007, 07:38 PM
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"Senin" <senin@inbox.com> schreef in bericht
news:1176919330.091566.325630@o5g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> What color clothing works best when taking black and white photos? My
> daughter is going to have black and white pictures taken and we re
> trying to figure out what color clothing show the best. Any
> suggestions?



Very hard to say, since different cameras use different algorithms to
convert the color images.

When taken in color and processed afterwards you can choose which color to
prevail over others when converting.

Grayish and offcourse black an white clothing is easiest to predict the
result.

Rutger


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Old 04-18-2007, 08:25 PM
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Could always take some 'test' pictures in colour.... then in say Paintshop pro or whatever change them to greyscale, maybe setting the printer to print greyscale instead of colour will also help you decide, also some cameras may allow switching to greyscale.

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Old 04-18-2007, 08:50 PM
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On Apr 18, 12:25 pm, davy <davy.2p9...@no.email.invalid> wrote:
> Could always take some 'test' pictures in colour.... then in say
> Paintshop pro or whatever change them to greyscale, maybe setting the
> printer to print greyscale instead of colour will also help you decide,
> also some cameras may allow switching to greyscale.
>
> davy


Thanks guys.
I did find these tips. Do you agree?

"Solid Colors only - Avoid Black and White clothing. (If a client
specifically requests that they wear Black or White clothing, the
article of clothing should be textured).

No stripes/patterns/decals/designs/logos.

Colors that work best are middle shades of greens, reds, and blues.
Denim shirts and jackets also look great on Black and White film.

No thin straps (spaghetti straps), tank tops, draw string tops, hooded
shirts or two tone colored tops.

No very low-cut tops. No pastels."

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Old 04-18-2007, 09:22 PM
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Gotta take the background into consideration as well, it's all about getting to know what shades of colours produce what shades of greyscale..,

... taking the colour piccy and switching to greyscale or switching the printer to greyscale is about the best I can come up with I'm afraid, it'll give you some 'hands on' idea of how thing's will turn out.

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Old 04-18-2007, 11:26 PM
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Senin wrote:
> What color clothing works best when taking black and white photos? My
> daughter is going to have black and white pictures taken and we re
> trying to figure out what color clothing show the best. Any
> suggestions?


It all depends on what you want. It sounds like you may be having the
photos taken by a professional. If so let them guide you. Likely they will
tend to say dark light or mid range.

In general there is little difference in the results of red vs blue
clothing assuming they are the same depth of color, when the results are
going to be in B&W. However that does depend on many factors.

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Old 04-18-2007, 11:45 PM
Nervous Nick
 
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Default Re: Colors in B and W photos

On Apr 18, 2:50 pm, StevenKarl <Steven...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 12:25 pm, davy <davy.2p9...@no.email.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Could always take some 'test' pictures in colour.... then in say
> > Paintshop pro or whatever change them to greyscale, maybe setting the
> > printer to print greyscale instead of colour will also help you decide,
> > also some cameras may allow switching to greyscale.

>
> > davy

>
> Thanks guys.
> I did find these tips. Do you agree?
>
> "Solid Colors only - Avoid Black and White clothing. (If a client
> specifically requests that they wear Black or White clothing, the
> article of clothing should be textured).
>
> No stripes/patterns/decals/designs/logos.
>
> Colors that work best are middle shades of greens, reds, and blues.
> Denim shirts and jackets also look great on Black and White film.
>
> No thin straps (spaghetti straps), tank tops, draw string tops, hooded
> shirts or two tone colored tops.
>
> No very low-cut tops. No pastels."


Agreed about the middle shades. In film, too, one has to consider
blown highlights and lost shadows. I assume you are talking digital
here, though, which makes your question a bit puzzline: Shoot in
color and you can do all kinds of neat stuff (filtering, etc., to
change the relative density of areas containing a certain color)
afterward in PS before finally dropping the color info, if that is
what you are planning.

As far as patterns, logos, jeans, dress styles, etc., well that is
pretty much a subjective issue and depends on what kind of shooting
you are doing.

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Old 04-19-2007, 12:21 AM
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On Apr 18, 5:45 pm, Nervous Nick <nervous.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2:50 pm, StevenKarl <Steven...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 12:25 pm, davy <davy.2p9...@no.email.invalid> wrote:

>
> > > Could always take some 'test' pictures in colour.... then in say
> > > Paintshop pro or whatever change them to greyscale, maybe setting the
> > > printer to print greyscale instead of colour will also help you decide,
> > > also some cameras may allow switching to greyscale.

>
> > > davy

>
> > Thanks guys.
> > I did find these tips. Do you agree?

>
> > "Solid Colors only - Avoid Black and White clothing. (If a client
> > specifically requests that they wear Black or White clothing, the
> > article of clothing should be textured).

>
> > No stripes/patterns/decals/designs/logos.

>
> > Colors that work best are middle shades of greens, reds, and blues.
> > Denim shirts and jackets also look great on Black and White film.

>
> > No thin straps (spaghetti straps), tank tops, draw string tops, hooded
> > shirts or two tone colored tops.

>
> > No very low-cut tops. No pastels."

>
> Agreed about the middle shades. In film, too, one has to consider
> blown highlights and lost shadows. I assume you are talking digital
> here, though, which makes your question a bit puzzline: Shoot in
> color and you can do all kinds of neat stuff (filtering, etc., to
> change the relative density of areas containing a certain color)
> afterward in PS before finally dropping the color info, if that is
> what you are planning.


OK, my bad. I was careless in reading the original psot. Of course
if the photog is indeed shooting in digital, he should already know
this. If not (see below).

Still, the thingie about no extreme shades holds. I could not say
about patterns or styles, because: it depends. Also, what Paul
MItchum said earlier: The photog should beable and willing to help
you, if he/she is at all competent.

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Old 04-19-2007, 01:24 PM
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On Apr 18, 2:02 pm, Senin <s...@inbox.com> wrote:
> What color clothing works best when taking black and white photos? My
> daughter is going to have black and white pictures taken and we re
> trying to figure out what color clothing show the best. Any
> suggestions?



Our family had a nice portrait done, brown painted canvas background,
we all had black shirts on. Was printed in sepia and looked great.
All really depends on what the photographer has for backgrounds and
lighting. Black turtlenecks on black a background worked for Philippe
Halsman, but hardly anyone else. Talk with your photographer, also how
do you want your daughter to look, is she a little girl, a teenager,
or an adult. What sort of studio is it, a freelancer or a mega
protrait studio. It all makes a difference.

Tom

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Old 04-20-2007, 01:18 AM
AnotherAmateur
 
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On Apr 18, 2:02 pm, Senin <s...@inbox.com> wrote:
> What color clothing works best when taking black and white photos? My
> daughter is going to have black and white pictures taken and we re
> trying to figure out what color clothing show the best. Any
> suggestions?


There have already been some very good comments. I would just like to
add that it might be a good idea for the clothing color to contrast
with the skin tone. Some contrast to hair color would also be good.
Just my $0.02

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