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Old 01-01-2008, 09:50 PM
robotiser@googlemail.com
 
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Default Canon S3 and SHDC cards

I bought a Canon S3 IS some months ago.

I'm looking for a second card to add to the second hand SanDisk Ultra
II 4GB card I'm using now.

I was thinking that the S3 can only use SD cards, not SDHC. But now I
read that SD cards only go to 2GB, and my card must be SDHC even
though it doesn't say SDHC anywhere on it. I bought it second hand and
did not get any packaging or documentation with it. It definitely is a
4GB card as I can record 30 minutes of 640x480 30fps video on it (and
frequently do). And this morning I had to empty the card, and there
was 3.7GB of "stuff" on it.

(Note that I was concerned after reading that there are counterfeit
cards floating around labelled as SanDisk Ultra II, but the card seem
to work absolutely fine).

So can I buy pretty well "any" SDHC card for the camera?
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:03 PM
Bert Hyman
 
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Default Re: Canon S3 and SHDC cards

In news:53a3dec7-e278-4d38-a95c-6fbdc38aa33b@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com
"robotiser@googlemail.com" <robotiser@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I was thinking that the S3 can only use SD cards, not SDHC. But now I
> read that SD cards only go to 2GB, and my card must be SDHC even
> though it doesn't say SDHC anywhere on it.


I've never run across one myself, but I've read about 4GB non-standard
SD cards. They're not SDHC, but they're not really SD either, but will
work in some devices. Maybe that's what you have.

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:28 PM
Yoshi
 
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Default Re: Canon S3 and SHDC cards


<robotiser@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:53a3dec7-e278-4d38-a95c-6fbdc38aa33b@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>I bought a Canon S3 IS some months ago.
>
> I'm looking for a second card to add to the second hand SanDisk Ultra
> II 4GB card I'm using now.
>
> I was thinking that the S3 can only use SD cards, not SDHC. But now I
> read that SD cards only go to 2GB, and my card must be SDHC even
> though it doesn't say SDHC anywhere on it. I bought it second hand and
> did not get any packaging or documentation with it. It definitely is a
> 4GB card as I can record 30 minutes of 640x480 30fps video on it (and
> frequently do). And this morning I had to empty the card, and there
> was 3.7GB of "stuff" on it.
>
> (Note that I was concerned after reading that there are counterfeit
> cards floating around labelled as SanDisk Ultra II, but the card seem
> to work absolutely fine).
>
> So can I buy pretty well "any" SDHC card for the camera?


Yes, although the initial specificatons of the S3IS didn't indicate SDHC
cards, Canon later announced that the camera was SDHC compatible. I use 4GB
SDHC on mine with no problems.

Yoshi


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Old 01-01-2008, 10:44 PM
robotiser@googlemail.com
 
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Default Re: Canon S3 and SHDC cards

On Jan 1, 10:03 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:53a3dec7-e278-4d38-a95c-6fbdc38aa33b@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com
> I've never run across one myself, but I've read about 4GB non-standard
> SD cards. They're not SDHC, but they're not really SD either, but will
> work in some devices. Maybe that's what you have.


Interesting. I note Yoshi's followup saying that the card is SD
compatible (thanks Yoshi).

But what you say is interesting too. My card doesn't say SDHC anywhere
on it.

Even when the SanDisk SDHC card was released, it said SDHC on it
(http://www.photographyblog.com/index...blog/comments/
sandisk_4gb_ultra_ii_sd_high_capacity_card/).

My card looks identical to the 1GB and 2GB Ultra 2 cards (e.g.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-ULTR.../dp/B0007QU7KU)
except that my card says 4GB.

So it looks quite plausible that my card is one of the non-standard
cards you mention. Fortunately, the card works well in my device.
Perhaps I've been lucky.
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:45 PM
robotiser@googlemail.com
 
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Default Re: Canon S3 and SHDC cards

On Jan 1, 10:44 pm, "roboti...@googlemail.com"
<roboti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Interesting. I note Yoshi's followup saying that the card is SD
> compatible (thanks Yoshi).


That should be "that the camera is SDHC compatible".
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:53 PM
Bert Hyman
 
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Default Re: Canon S3 and SHDC cards

In news:7ad31a4a-b8e6-4e51-b261-9a7569393602@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
"robotiser@googlemail.com" <robotiser@googlemail.com> wrote:

> So it looks quite plausible that my card is one of the non-standard
> cards you mention. Fortunately, the card works well in my device.
> Perhaps I've been lucky.
>


Newegg, my parts vendor of choice, lists two "Transcend" 4GB SD cards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820163159
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820208086

neither of which shows SDHC. But, when you try to find them on
Trancend's Web site, they're not listed. Searching for them by part
number points to data from their download area, so maybe they stopped
making them.

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:29 PM
robotiser@googlemail.com
 
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Default Re: Canon S3 and SHDC cards

On Jan 1, 10:53 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:7ad31a4a-b8e6-4e51-b261-9a7569393602@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
> Newegg, my parts vendor of choice, lists two "Transcend" 4GB SD cards
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820208086
>
> neither of which shows SDHC. But, when you try to find them on
> Trancend's Web site, they're not listed. Searching for them by part
> number points to data from their download area, so maybe they stopped
> making them.


I note this bit in a review on that page:

> Pros: This card does an excellent job with my Palm TX as well as my digital camera. Neither of these will use the 4GB SDHC card but work fine with this one. If your device is an older one and will not use an SDHC card this is an excellent choice.


This definitely suggests that the transcend cards aren't SHDC, neither
by name nor by nature.
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:41 PM
robotiser@googlemail.com
 
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Default Re: Canon S3 and SHDC cards

Well, a 4G SDHC card works fine in my camera.

Trouble is, it doesn't work in my card reader. Oh well, at least the
card reader only cost £5 (actually 50p + £4.50 "postage and packing").
I can use the card by connecting the camera directly to the computer
and using gthumb-import.

Now that I have multiple cards, it's time to look at installing that
open-source replacement firmware thing onto one of them so that I can
give it a go.
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:44 PM
robotiser@googlemail.com
 
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Default Re: Canon S3 and SHDC cards

I've just realised that this probably means that my 4G sandisk card is
a 4G SD card, not an SDHC.

My previous reader cost me 50p plus £4.50 P&P. I can buy a SDHC reader
for 1p and £4.99 P&P. Wow! The card is 50 times cheaper than before.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:17 AM
gA
 
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Default Re: Canon S3 and SHDC cards

I have 2 4G SDHC cards (Kodak). I was explained that they are SD.
The HC merely stands for High Capacity. That's why you won't find
SD cards bigger than 2G. I never had any problems and actually I
enjoy the speed with which they transfer data to my computer.
Good luck.
-gA

robotiser@googlemail.com wrote:
> I've just realised that this probably means that my 4G sandisk card is
> a 4G SD card, not an SDHC.
>
> My previous reader cost me 50p plus £4.50 P&P. I can buy a SDHC reader
> for 1p and £4.99 P&P. Wow! The card is 50 times cheaper than before.

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