I won't cloud the issue by telling you fine folks what cameras/
features I am looking because I want to restrict the discussion to
batteries, specifically Lithium Ion packs vs. AA.
I am looking for a camera for my 16 YO daughter. We need to get her a
camera before she goes on a week long vacation.
She found a slim-profile camera that she likes which uses a Lithium
Ion pack that must be recharged by placing the camera in it's base and
plugging the base into a wall outlet. There is no option to simply
drop a couple of AA batteries into it.
We discussed the need to charge this camera at every opportunity to
ensure that it is ready for use whenever she needs it. At a minimum
that means taking the base and cords with her on vacation and to
sleepovers, etc. When it's dead, you can't just run into a store and
get some batteries.
Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I won't cloud the issue by telling you fine folks what cameras/
> features I am looking because I want to restrict the discussion to
> batteries, specifically Lithium Ion packs vs. AA.
>
> I am looking for a camera for my 16 YO daughter. We need to get her a
> camera before she goes on a week long vacation.
>
> She found a slim-profile camera that she likes which uses a Lithium
> Ion pack that must be recharged by placing the camera in it's base and
> plugging the base into a wall outlet. There is no option to simply
> drop a couple of AA batteries into it.
>
> We discussed the need to charge this camera at every opportunity to
> ensure that it is ready for use whenever she needs it. At a minimum
> that means taking the base and cords with her on vacation and to
> sleepovers, etc. When it's dead, you can't just run into a store and
> get some batteries.
>
> Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
> those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
>
> Thanks!
Not having a replaceable battery and an external charger can
cause problems for anyone, regardless of age, sex, etc.
Inevitably, there will be times that you can't take pictures
because the battery is being charged.
DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I won't cloud the issue by telling you fine folks what cameras/
> features I am looking because I want to restrict the discussion to
> batteries, specifically Lithium Ion packs vs. AA.
>
> I am looking for a camera for my 16 YO daughter. We need to get her a
> camera before she goes on a week long vacation.
>
> She found a slim-profile camera that she likes which uses a Lithium
> Ion pack that must be recharged by placing the camera in it's base and
> plugging the base into a wall outlet. There is no option to simply
> drop a couple of AA batteries into it.
>
> We discussed the need to charge this camera at every opportunity to
> ensure that it is ready for use whenever she needs it. At a minimum
> that means taking the base and cords with her on vacation and to
> sleepovers, etc. When it's dead, you can't just run into a store and
> get some batteries.
>
> Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
> those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
>
> Thanks!
In small digital cameras, a lithium ion battery will usually give over
100 shots before needing a charge. My method is to buy and carry a spare
Li ion battery with me. If I'm in the field and the battery poops out,
then I change it to the spare. Thus, about 200 exposures are more than I
need to take in a given day. Of course, for a larger number of shots, or
a longer stay in the woods, AA batteries with several spares would be
helpful.
>
> Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
> those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
>
Most camera's can take hundreds of pictures with a litium ion battery.
AA capable camera's are often larger.
Camera's with AA batteries do not have to be replaced once the battery goes
dead, just replace the AA's. For litium ion batteries by the time they are
gone
(few years), you probably will not bother to buy new litium ion batteries,
because
they are expensive (especially for an older camera), maybe not available.
Taking one or two spare set's of batteries with you and you know how much
power
you have left (fairly accurate). The indication for the litium ion is not
very lineair.
So with AA you know what you have left (outside the camera). And if you run
out
AA's are better available then any type of battery.
I think that AA is definitly a advantage over litium ion. (But the camera is
larger).
So choices being the same I vote for AA.
(My DSLR and my point and shoot both do not have AA capability, so I went
for
other features above AA. This to place the preverence for AA into a
perspective).
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<2c3534a3-5648-4ec6-80b3-d0bdcdbbb2a3@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
> I won't cloud the issue by telling you fine folks what cameras/
> features I am looking because I want to restrict the discussion to
> batteries, specifically Lithium Ion packs vs. AA.
>
> I am looking for a camera for my 16 YO daughter. We need to get her a
> camera before she goes on a week long vacation.
>
> She found a slim-profile camera that she likes which uses a Lithium
> Ion pack that must be recharged by placing the camera in it's base and
> plugging the base into a wall outlet. There is no option to simply
> drop a couple of AA batteries into it.
>
> We discussed the need to charge this camera at every opportunity to
> ensure that it is ready for use whenever she needs it. At a minimum
> that means taking the base and cords with her on vacation and to
> sleepovers, etc. When it's dead, you can't just run into a store and
> get some batteries.
>
> Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
> those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
>
> Thanks!
You're definitely being overcautious. The typical digital camera
lithium-ion battery will shoot a few hundred photos per charge. Your
best bet is to simply buy a second battery for your daughter. That's
what I do, I carry a spare battery with me, and when the one in the
camera is depleted, I stick it in my pocket and put a charged battery in
the camera, then I charge the depleted battery when I go to sleep.
"DerbyDad03" <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote in message
news:2c3534a3-5648-4ec6-80b3-d0bdcdbbb2a3@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>I won't cloud the issue by telling you fine folks what cameras/
> features I am looking because I want to restrict the discussion to
> batteries, specifically Lithium Ion packs vs. AA.
>
> I am looking for a camera for my 16 YO daughter. We need to get her a
> camera before she goes on a week long vacation.
>
> She found a slim-profile camera that she likes which uses a Lithium
> Ion pack that must be recharged by placing the camera in it's base and
> plugging the base into a wall outlet. There is no option to simply
> drop a couple of AA batteries into it.
>
> We discussed the need to charge this camera at every opportunity to
> ensure that it is ready for use whenever she needs it. At a minimum
> that means taking the base and cords with her on vacation and to
> sleepovers, etc. When it's dead, you can't just run into a store and
> get some batteries.
>
> Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
> those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
>
> Thanks!
My 16 YO daughter's camera uses AA's and there have been times when our P&S
with the rechargeable Li Ion is out of puff and her's is still going because
she carries a few spare set of batteries in her handbag, It takes 30 seconds
to replace the AA's or several hours to recharge the Li Ion's.
If I was to buy another P&S it would be AA powered just for that reason, and
now that there are rechargeable Eneloop batteries specifically designed for
camera's the choice is even easier.
It's a case of balancing the cost of a spare Li Ion (that also has to be
kept charged) so you don't miss a shot, or buying a handful of AA's
--
"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
Don Hirschberg
DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I won't cloud the issue by telling you fine folks what cameras/
> features I am looking because I want to restrict the discussion to
> batteries, specifically Lithium Ion packs vs. AA.
>
> I am looking for a camera for my 16 YO daughter. We need to get her a
> camera before she goes on a week long vacation.
>
> She found a slim-profile camera that she likes which uses a Lithium
> Ion pack that must be recharged by placing the camera in it's base and
> plugging the base into a wall outlet. There is no option to simply
> drop a couple of AA batteries into it.
>
> We discussed the need to charge this camera at every opportunity to
> ensure that it is ready for use whenever she needs it. At a minimum
> that means taking the base and cords with her on vacation and to
> sleepovers, etc. When it's dead, you can't just run into a store and
> get some batteries.
>
> Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
> those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
>
> Thanks!
Experience with teen age kids is that it's not a function of "how many"
shots can be made with a battery, but also how long do they leave it on
between shots, how much power is wasted looking at yesterdays shots,
showing their friends the pictures they have taken, just flat forgetting
to turn the camera off after a shot and remembering to recharge on a
routine basis. Extra Lithium ion batteries are not inexpensive, whereas
they can pack an extra "8 pack" of AA batteries in their bag for a few
bucks, or borrow some from a friend - or even resort to buying them at
the corner 7-11 if necessary. If you are dead set on "rechargable"
batteries, you can get rechargeable AAs with a charger, but my vote for
teenagers is the "AA"!
DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I won't cloud the issue by telling you fine folks what cameras/
> features I am looking because I want to restrict the discussion to
> batteries, specifically Lithium Ion packs vs. AA.
>
> I am looking for a camera for my 16 YO daughter. We need to get her a
> camera before she goes on a week long vacation.
>
> She found a slim-profile camera that she likes which uses a Lithium
> Ion pack that must be recharged by placing the camera in it's base and
> plugging the base into a wall outlet. There is no option to simply
> drop a couple of AA batteries into it.
>
> We discussed the need to charge this camera at every opportunity to
> ensure that it is ready for use whenever she needs it. At a minimum
> that means taking the base and cords with her on vacation and to
> sleepovers, etc. When it's dead, you can't just run into a store and
> get some batteries.
>
> Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
> those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
>
> Thanks!
First, my cameras use AA batteries, and I feel this is a major
advantage. However, most new cameras have excellent battery life with
lithium ion batteries. She probably couldn't take that many pictures in
one day.
On Jun 23, 8:53*pm, Big John <watson6...@sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > I won't cloud the issue by telling you fine folks what cameras/
> > features I am looking because I want to restrict the discussion to
> > batteries, specifically Lithium Ion packs vs. AA.
>
> > I am looking for a camera for my 16 YO daughter. We need to get her a
> > camera before she goes on a week long vacation.
>
> > She found a slim-profile camera that she likes which uses a Lithium
> > Ion pack that must be recharged by placing the camera in it's base and
> > plugging the base into a wall outlet. There is no option to simply
> > drop a couple of AA batteries into it.
>
> > We discussed the need to charge this camera at every opportunity to
> > ensure that it is ready for use whenever she needs it. At a minimum
> > that means taking the base and cords with her on vacation and to
> > sleepovers, etc. When it's dead, you can't just run into a store and
> > get some batteries.
>
> > Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
> > those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
>
> > Thanks!
>
> Experience with teen age kids is that it's not a function of "how many"
> shots can be made with a battery, but also how long do they leave it on
> between shots, how much power is *wasted looking at yesterdays shots,
> showing their friends the pictures they have taken, just flat forgetting
> to turn the camera off after a shot and remembering to recharge on a
> routine basis. Extra Lithium ion batteries are not inexpensive, whereas
> they can pack an extra "8 pack" of AA batteries in their bag for a few
> bucks, or borrow some from a friend - or even resort to buying *them at
> the corner 7-11 if necessary. *If you are dead set on "rechargable"
> batteries, you can get rechargeable AAs with a charger, but my vote for
> teenagers is the "AA"!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
While not discounting the thoughts offered by others, you have made
some very good points - especially "how much power is wasted looking
at yesterdays shots, showing their friends the pictures they have
taken".
AFAIK the power used for reviewing pictures is not typically listed in
the specs for a camera. It would be interesting to see an "review
time" comparison along side the "shot count" spec. Granted, that would
be a tough spec to define.
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
>She found a slim-profile camera that she likes which uses a Lithium
>Ion pack that must be recharged by placing the camera in it's base and
>plugging the base into a wall outlet. There is no option to simply
>drop a couple of AA batteries into it.
>
>Am I being overly cautious by thinking we should limit our choices to
>those that use (eat?) AA batteries, especially for a 16YO?
Ask five people and you will get 10 different opinions. It is an ongoing
religious war if custom LiIon or standard AA are better. Both have
advantages and disadvantages, see DejaNews (nowadays Google) for
previous discussions on this matter and further details.
Your fear of running out of power might be somewhat mitigated by the
fact, that LiIon packs hold significantly more power than AAs and
usually last for several hundred photos. I don't even bring my charger
any more if I'm going out for a weekend or extended weekend. Although
the number of photos can very widely with camera model and shooting
habits, e.g. lots of flash or excessive use of the LCD and AAs as well
as LIIon will be drained fast.
But you can always get a second LiIon pack as a backup and for some
sizes you can even get a non-rechargable batterie as a backup.
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