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  #1  
Old 02-12-2008, 02:40 PM
Daniel Silevitch
 
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Default Aperture v2 announced

In case anyone cares, Apple has announced version 2 of Aperture. New
features include DNG support, a whole new set of adjustment tools, more
metadata stuff, etc.

$99 upgrade, $199 list.

-dms
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:47 PM
C J Campbell
 
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Default Re: Aperture v2 announced

On 2008-02-12 06:40:57 -0800, Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> said:

> In case anyone cares, Apple has announced version 2 of Aperture. New
> features include DNG support, a whole new set of adjustment tools, more
> metadata stuff, etc.
>
> $99 upgrade, $199 list.
>
> -dms


The interface has been completely revamped and it now runs faster. That
said, Aperture 2.0 was way late coming out and many professionals were
offended by Apple's cavalier attitude toward their business needs. You
don't just tell your photography clients that they can have their
pictures 'any day now' for several months while you are waiting for the
next release of Aperture to finally recognize your camera RAW files.

Leopard 10.5.2 update included RAW support for several more cameras,
including the Nikon D3 and D300, but Apple does not allow Aperture 1.5x
to use this RAW update. iPhoto and the Finder can see D3 and D300 files
just fine, but you have to buy or upgrade to Aperture 2.0 to get D3 and
D300 support in Aperture.

Is it just me, or has Apple's marketing department been taken over by
evil trolls? This sort of forced upgrading, making people pay for minor
fixes in networking, the iPhone price change SNAFU, etc., seem to
indicate a certain penny-grubbing attitude that has taken hold there.

Well, okay. You can download a trial version of Aperture 2.0 on Apple's
web site and even purchase an activation key to make it a full version
of Aperture. Apple's discussion board, however, is full of complaints
that Apple is not sending the activation keys when you purchase the
product. Apple says they will have the problem fixed "within a few
days." A lot of people think that is not good enough.

If you download the trial version, it will de-activate Aperture 1.5x,
but will not use your old library until you enter an activation key. So
you are stuck without access to your library until Apple deigns to send
you an activation key. You can go back to 1.5x, though, by dragging
your old library onto the Aperture 1.5x icon.

Are we having fun yet? Nothing like being on the bleeding edge of
technology, is there?

So, if you are interested in Aperture 2.0, I would either get a boxed
version or wait a few days until Apple fixes its ordering system.
Meanwhile, you can use the trial version for your new photos (the trial
version expires in 30 days, but otherwise it is identical to the boxed
version except for the project samples) and if you really need photos
from your old library you can either re-import them into the trial
library or switch back to 1.5x.

Working with the trial version, I have to say that it is a very nice
program. The web interface has been made actually usable. The file
management system works better. You do have to learn all over again
where everything is, but once you do that the workflow seems to go a
little more quickly and smoothly.

Unfortunately, though, I think a lot of former Aperture users will
never get to see these improvements. Apple was simply too late bringing
it out.
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Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old 02-13-2008, 09:46 PM
nospam
 
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Default Re: Aperture v2 announced

In article <2008021311475016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom>, C J
Campbell <christophercampbell@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Leopard 10.5.2 update included RAW support for several more cameras,
> including the Nikon D3 and D300, but Apple does not allow Aperture 1.5x
> to use this RAW update. iPhoto and the Finder can see D3 and D300 files
> just fine, but you have to buy or upgrade to Aperture 2.0 to get D3 and
> D300 support in Aperture.


it appears they've revamped how raw support works (which is a good
thing, long term). aperture appears to now carry it's own raw support,
independent and beyond what the operating system offers. it even adds
d3/d300 support to those who still use 10.4.

> If you download the trial version, it will de-activate Aperture 1.5x,


not if you follow the directions it won't.

> Unfortunately, though, I think a lot of former Aperture users will
> never get to see these improvements. Apple was simply too late bringing
> it out.


lightroom is certainly a great application and better than aperture in
a number of ways (e.g. speed), but aperture now offers a few things
lightroom doesn't, such as a plug-in api and raw versioning. when
lightroom 2 ships, the pendulum will swing back the other way and it
will offer features aperture doesn't. it's good to have a choice.
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:36 PM
C J Campbell
 
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Default Re: Aperture v2 announced

On 2008-02-13 13:46:53 -0800, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:

> In article <2008021311475016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom>, C J
> Campbell <christophercampbell@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Leopard 10.5.2 update included RAW support for several more cameras,
>> including the Nikon D3 and D300, but Apple does not allow Aperture 1.5x
>> to use this RAW update. iPhoto and the Finder can see D3 and D300 files
>> just fine, but you have to buy or upgrade to Aperture 2.0 to get D3 and
>> D300 support in Aperture.

>
> it appears they've revamped how raw support works (which is a good
> thing, long term). aperture appears to now carry it's own raw support,
> independent and beyond what the operating system offers. it even adds
> d3/d300 support to those who still use 10.4.
>
>> If you download the trial version, it will de-activate Aperture 1.5x,

>
> not if you follow the directions it won't.
>
>> Unfortunately, though, I think a lot of former Aperture users will
>> never get to see these improvements. Apple was simply too late bringing
>> it out.

>
> lightroom is certainly a great application and better than aperture in
> a number of ways (e.g. speed), but aperture now offers a few things
> lightroom doesn't, such as a plug-in api and raw versioning. when
> lightroom 2 ships, the pendulum will swing back the other way and it
> will offer features aperture doesn't. it's good to have a choice.


All good comments. The main complaint I have about 2.0 is that it took
so long to come out. Now, if Apple can get the order system fixed...
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Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old 02-14-2008, 12:41 PM
Tully
 
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Default Re: Aperture v2 announced

In article <2008021311475016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom>,
C J Campbell <christophercampbell@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Is it just me, or has Apple's marketing department been taken over by
> evil trolls? This sort of forced upgrading, making people pay for minor
> fixes in networking, the iPhone price change SNAFU, etc., seem to
> indicate a certain penny-grubbing attitude that has taken hold there.


It's my fault. Apple is barely showing a profit and I'm to blame. Of my
three Mac desktops, two are G4s more than five years old, and one is a
Blue&White that was made in 2000. I'm still running some System 9 apps,
and my Photoshop doesn't have any number after the CS. Only one of my
machines has USB 2.0 and I run Office 98 for Mac. I don't own a Cinema
Display, nor anything with Intel CPUs.

It's because of Slow Upgraders like me that they have to **** all you
Early Adopters.

I'm a dinosaur and a tightwad, and I sincerely apologize for my evil
ways.
--
"It is the individual alone who is timeless. The individual's
hungers, anxieties, dreams, and preoccupations have remained
unchanged throughout the millennia." Eric Hoffer (1902-1983)
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:22 PM
C J Campbell
 
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Default Re: Aperture v2 announced

On 2008-02-14 04:41:47 -0800, Tully <tully.albrecht@cox.net> said:

> In article <2008021311475016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom>,
> C J Campbell <christophercampbell@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Is it just me, or has Apple's marketing department been taken over by
>> evil trolls? This sort of forced upgrading, making people pay for minor
>> fixes in networking, the iPhone price change SNAFU, etc., seem to
>> indicate a certain penny-grubbing attitude that has taken hold there.

>
> It's my fault. Apple is barely showing a profit and I'm to blame. Of my
> three Mac desktops, two are G4s more than five years old, and one is a
> Blue&White that was made in 2000. I'm still running some System 9 apps,
> and my Photoshop doesn't have any number after the CS. Only one of my
> machines has USB 2.0 and I run Office 98 for Mac. I don't own a Cinema
> Display, nor anything with Intel CPUs.
>
> It's because of Slow Upgraders like me that they have to **** all you
> Early Adopters.
>
> I'm a dinosaur and a tightwad, and I sincerely apologize for my evil
> ways.


I knew it! Okay guys. The blanket party is ON!
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World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old 02-18-2008, 04:15 PM
John McWilliams
 
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Default Re: Aperture v2 announced

Tully wrote:
> In article <2008021311475016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom>,
> C J Campbell <christophercampbell@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it just me, or has Apple's marketing department been taken over by
>> evil trolls? This sort of forced upgrading, making people pay for minor
>> fixes in networking, the iPhone price change SNAFU, etc., seem to
>> indicate a certain penny-grubbing attitude that has taken hold there.

>
> It's my fault. Apple is barely showing a profit and I'm to blame. Of my
> three Mac desktops, two are G4s more than five years old, and one is a
> Blue&White that was made in 2000. I'm still running some System 9 apps,
> and my Photoshop doesn't have any number after the CS. Only one of my
> machines has USB 2.0 and I run Office 98 for Mac. I don't own a Cinema
> Display, nor anything with Intel CPUs.
>
> It's because of Slow Upgraders like me that they have to **** all you
> Early Adopters.
>
> I'm a dinosaur and a tightwad, and I sincerely apologize for my evil
> ways.


Get thee to an Apple store immediately and don't leave till you've spent
at least $8,000. Then 25 Hail Marys, etc.

And have that nice day!


--
John McWilliams
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