Any new Nikon lower-end D-SLRs coming?

SMS wrote:
> user@domain.invalid wrote:
>> I find this D700 unexciting.
>>
>> A new full-frame camera needs to have the same pixel density
>> as the common crop-frame ones, say a minimum of 9 megapixels for
>> a 1.6 crop camera, 12 being optimal.
>
> That's exactly what you don't want. The big advantage of the full frame
> sensor is the ability to have larger pixels for lower noise.

What I want is the right pixel size. At the moment I want the
right pixel size for the current lenses. I like big prints. The
noise performance of the current 1.6 crop cameras is quite OK.
I would not want much more than 12 megapixels for a 1.6 crop camera. The
noise difference between 8 and 12 megapixels (1.6 crop) is small.
This pixel size is a good macth for the best and near-best full
frame lenses.

So what I want in a full frame is that size pixel.

Doug McDonald

In message news:Lmsak.674$zv7.53@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com, SMS
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> done wrote:

> I saw the Nikon D700 announcement, but I wonder if Nikon will come up
> with some consumer models in the sub-$1000 (preferably sub-$800) price
> range that compete with Canon's offerings in that range. They now have
> nothing between the D80 and the D300.

The D200 is on Nikon's website as a current model. It is "between the D80
and the D300".

nospam wrote:
> In article <Zhyak.6674$L_.2114@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>, SMS
> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>
>>> The XSi actually fits ALL of her criteria quite nicely. The 40D is
>>> heavier than her "required" weight, and I would expect any successor to
>>> be heavier as well, and definitely over the budget. In fact, using the
>>> comparison chart at www.dpreview.com, the XSi is the ONLY model under
>>> $1000 that matches all her criteria.
>> Yes, this is true. But I think she'll wait and see how the D80 successor
>> looks before making a decision. Nikon can't possibly continue to lag so
>> badly behind Canon in the sub-$1000 segment, and the rumors about a 90D
>> probably have a lot of substance.
>
> lag so badly? that's just your anti-nikon bias.

Hey, I'm the one that told her not to rush out and get the XSi even
though it met all of her criteria, and to wait to see what Nikon comes
out with.

> the d40/d40x/d60/d80
> are very good cameras, and nikon sales in that segment reflect that,
> gaining market share over canon.

Yes some of those are good. I'd steer clear of the D40/D40x, but nothing
wrong with the D60 or D80, they just aren't as good as what Canon has in
those segments.

Yes, Nikon is gaining market share, though they still lag behind Canon
in D-SLR sales.

measekite wrote:

> You will not see the difference between 10 and 12.

Right, and you won't see the difference between 6 and 8 either, or 8 and
10 for that matter. But you will see the difference between 6 and 10, or
8 and 12.

> I read that the 40D
> does a little better on noise than the XSI.

Makes sense since the pixels are larger. But the XSi noise level is
acceptable with the CMOS sensor. Hopefully the D90 will be using a
low-noise CMOS sensor as well.

In article <PxCak.6178$LG4.40@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>, SMS
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> >> Yes, this is true. But I think she'll wait and see how the D80 successor
> >> looks before making a decision. Nikon can't possibly continue to lag so
> >> badly behind Canon in the sub-$1000 segment, and the rumors about a 90D
> >> probably have a lot of substance.
> >
> > lag so badly? that's just your anti-nikon bias.
>
> Hey, I'm the one that told her not to rush out and get the XSi even
> though it met all of her criteria, and to wait to see what Nikon comes
> out with.

yea, i'm actually surprised about that. there's hope for you yet.

> > the d40/d40x/d60/d80
> > are very good cameras, and nikon sales in that segment reflect that,
> > gaining market share over canon.
>
> Yes some of those are good. I'd steer clear of the D40/D40x, but nothing
> wrong with the D60 or D80, they just aren't as good as what Canon has in
> those segments.

odd, since the d60 is basically a d40x ii.

> Yes, Nikon is gaining market share, though they still lag behind Canon
> in D-SLR sales.

<http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1207604859.html>

Nikon also deserves special mention here. While the Coolpix compact
business suffered setbacks, Nikon's dSLR efforts amounted in a
serious challenge to Canon, resting on the back of compelling SKUs
like the D40x and D300 and supplanting Canon at the number one
position in their domestic market (Japan).