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  #1  
Old 06-11-2007, 02:48 AM
Robert
 
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Default XPS 410 Video Card Problems

My Dell XPS 410 doesn't play nice with video cards.



The system came with a Dell GeForce 7900 GS PCIe which died about a month
after I received the system.



I replaced the card with a ATI Radeon X1650 Pro PCIe. That card died today,
less than six months after I installed it.



Neither card gave any warning that it was failing. I installed both cards
in another system just to confirm they are dead.



I have the original replacement for the 7900 which Dell sent under warranty
but I am hesitant to install it if it is just going to die like the others.



The 410 has an Intel E6700 and 4 gigs Ram installed. The OS is Win XP SP2.



Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.



- Robert


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Old 06-11-2007, 03:02 AM
Tom Scales
 
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Default RE: XPS 410 Video Card Problems

I would say coincidence. One of mine has a passively cooled 7600GS and
runs 24/7 with very heavy activity, so it runs hot. My other one has an
8600GT and also runs 24/7. Been running 6+ months without a problem.

Is your machine where it can get good airflow? If it is buried under a
desk with things on each side, it is probably just getting too hot.

Tom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert [mailto:rldearmond@hughes.net]
> Posted At: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:48 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> Subject: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>
> My Dell XPS 410 doesn't play nice with video cards.
>
>
>
> The system came with a Dell GeForce 7900 GS PCIe which died about a
> month
> after I received the system.
>
>
>
> I replaced the card with a ATI Radeon X1650 Pro PCIe. That card died
> today,
> less than six months after I installed it.
>
>
>
> Neither card gave any warning that it was failing. I installed both
> cards
> in another system just to confirm they are dead.
>
>
>
> I have the original replacement for the 7900 which Dell sent under
> warranty
> but I am hesitant to install it if it is just going to die like the
> others.
>
>
>
> The 410 has an Intel E6700 and 4 gigs Ram installed. The OS is Win XP
> SP2.
>
>
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> - Robert



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  #3  
Old 06-11-2007, 03:13 AM
Robert
 
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Default Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems

Thanks for the feedback Tom.

The airflow is restricted as I have one of those desks with a CPU cubby. I
leave the door open when the system is in use but it sounds as though that
may not be enough.
I'll try relocating to an area outside the cabinet to be safe.

Thanks again - Robert

"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:000101c7abcc$957f1440$04000200@t9200...
>I would say coincidence. One of mine has a passively cooled 7600GS and
> runs 24/7 with very heavy activity, so it runs hot. My other one has an
> 8600GT and also runs 24/7. Been running 6+ months without a problem.
>
> Is your machine where it can get good airflow? If it is buried under a
> desk with things on each side, it is probably just getting too hot.
>
> Tom
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert [mailto:rldearmond@hughes.net]
>> Posted At: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:48 PM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>> Subject: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>>
>> My Dell XPS 410 doesn't play nice with video cards.
>>
>>
>>
>> The system came with a Dell GeForce 7900 GS PCIe which died about a
>> month
>> after I received the system.
>>
>>
>>
>> I replaced the card with a ATI Radeon X1650 Pro PCIe. That card died
>> today,
>> less than six months after I installed it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Neither card gave any warning that it was failing. I installed both
>> cards
>> in another system just to confirm they are dead.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the original replacement for the 7900 which Dell sent under
>> warranty
>> but I am hesitant to install it if it is just going to die like the
>> others.
>>
>>
>>
>> The 410 has an Intel E6700 and 4 gigs Ram installed. The OS is Win XP
>> SP2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Robert

>
>



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  #4  
Old 06-11-2007, 03:49 AM
Tom Scales
 
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Default RE: XPS 410 Video Card Problems

I think that might be the problem. My primary 410 puts out enormous
heat when heavily used. It does primarily video compression, so it runs
at 100% CPU and incredible disk activity 24/7. It actually heats up my
entire office so hot that I'm going to run another duct.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert [mailto:rldearmond@hughes.net]
> Posted At: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:14 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> Subject: Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>
> Thanks for the feedback Tom.
>
> The airflow is restricted as I have one of those desks with a CPU
> cubby. I
> leave the door open when the system is in use but it sounds as though
> that
> may not be enough.
> I'll try relocating to an area outside the cabinet to be safe.
>
> Thanks again - Robert
>
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:000101c7abcc$957f1440$04000200@t9200...
> >I would say coincidence. One of mine has a passively cooled 7600GS

> and
> > runs 24/7 with very heavy activity, so it runs hot. My other one has

> an
> > 8600GT and also runs 24/7. Been running 6+ months without a

problem.
> >
> > Is your machine where it can get good airflow? If it is buried

under
> a
> > desk with things on each side, it is probably just getting too hot.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Robert [mailto:rldearmond@hughes.net]
> >> Posted At: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:48 PM
> >> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> >> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> >> Subject: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> >>
> >> My Dell XPS 410 doesn't play nice with video cards.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The system came with a Dell GeForce 7900 GS PCIe which died about a
> >> month
> >> after I received the system.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I replaced the card with a ATI Radeon X1650 Pro PCIe. That card

> died
> >> today,
> >> less than six months after I installed it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Neither card gave any warning that it was failing. I installed

both
> >> cards
> >> in another system just to confirm they are dead.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have the original replacement for the 7900 which Dell sent under
> >> warranty
> >> but I am hesitant to install it if it is just going to die like the
> >> others.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The 410 has an Intel E6700 and 4 gigs Ram installed. The OS is Win

> XP
> >> SP2.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Robert

> >
> >



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  #5  
Old 06-11-2007, 12:21 PM
olfart
 
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Default Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems


"Robert" <rldearmond@hughes.net> wrote in message
news:ndWdnXowC5d8MvHbnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> Thanks for the feedback Tom.
>
> The airflow is restricted as I have one of those desks with a CPU cubby.
> I leave the door open when the system is in use but it sounds as though
> that may not be enough.
> I'll try relocating to an area outside the cabinet to be safe.
>
> Thanks again - Robert
>
>

If you want to leave it where it is you can try drilling some large holes in
the rear of the area where the PC is located. You couls then mount a small
fan back there to blow air through the enclosure..


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  #6  
Old 06-12-2007, 12:37 AM
Scott Davis
 
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Default Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems


Tom,
How would you describe the noise level of your 410 when it is under
that kind of load?

Thanks

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:49:24 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I think that might be the problem. My primary 410 puts out enormous
>heat when heavily used. It does primarily video compression, so it runs
>at 100% CPU and incredible disk activity 24/7. It actually heats up my
>entire office so hot that I'm going to run another duct.
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert [mailto:rldearmond@hughes.net]
>> Posted At: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:14 PM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>> Subject: Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback Tom.
>>
>> The airflow is restricted as I have one of those desks with a CPU
>> cubby. I
>> leave the door open when the system is in use but it sounds as though
>> that
>> may not be enough.
>> I'll try relocating to an area outside the cabinet to be safe.
>>
>> Thanks again - Robert
>>
>> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:000101c7abcc$957f1440$04000200@t9200...
>> >I would say coincidence. One of mine has a passively cooled 7600GS

>> and
>> > runs 24/7 with very heavy activity, so it runs hot. My other one has

>> an
>> > 8600GT and also runs 24/7. Been running 6+ months without a

>problem.
>> >
>> > Is your machine where it can get good airflow? If it is buried

>under
>> a
>> > desk with things on each side, it is probably just getting too hot.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Robert [mailto:rldearmond@hughes.net]
>> >> Posted At: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:48 PM
>> >> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> >> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>> >> Subject: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>> >>
>> >> My Dell XPS 410 doesn't play nice with video cards.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The system came with a Dell GeForce 7900 GS PCIe which died about a
>> >> month
>> >> after I received the system.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I replaced the card with a ATI Radeon X1650 Pro PCIe. That card

>> died
>> >> today,
>> >> less than six months after I installed it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Neither card gave any warning that it was failing. I installed

>both
>> >> cards
>> >> in another system just to confirm they are dead.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have the original replacement for the 7900 which Dell sent under
>> >> warranty
>> >> but I am hesitant to install it if it is just going to die like the
>> >> others.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The 410 has an Intel E6700 and 4 gigs Ram installed. The OS is Win

>> XP
>> >> SP2.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Robert
>> >
>> >

>

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  #7  
Old 06-12-2007, 02:30 AM
Journey
 
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Default Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:37:54 GMT, Scott Davis <please@nospam.com>
wrote:

>
>Tom,
>How would you describe the noise level of your 410 when it is under
>that kind of load?
>
>Thanks


My 410, w 4 hard drives, used in a variety of load situations --
always very quiet.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:21 AM
Tom Scales
 
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Default RE: XPS 410 Video Card Problems

It's quieter than my ceiling fan

If I stick my head under my desk, I can hear the fan. At 100% CPU
constantly, the fan runs, but it isn't bothersome. My other 410 (under
the credenza) on which I am typing this is almost silent.

Tom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Davis [mailtolease@nospam.com]
> Posted At: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:38 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> Subject: Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>
>
> Tom,
> How would you describe the noise level of your 410 when it is under
> that kind of load?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:49:24 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I think that might be the problem. My primary 410 puts out enormous
> >heat when heavily used. It does primarily video compression, so it

> runs
> >at 100% CPU and incredible disk activity 24/7. It actually heats up

> my
> >entire office so hot that I'm going to run another duct.
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Robert [mailto:rldearmond@hughes.net]
> >> Posted At: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:14 PM
> >> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> >> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> >> Subject: Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> >>
> >> Thanks for the feedback Tom.
> >>
> >> The airflow is restricted as I have one of those desks with a CPU
> >> cubby. I
> >> leave the door open when the system is in use but it sounds as

> though
> >> that
> >> may not be enough.
> >> I'll try relocating to an area outside the cabinet to be safe.
> >>
> >> Thanks again - Robert
> >>
> >> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:000101c7abcc$957f1440$04000200@t9200...
> >> >I would say coincidence. One of mine has a passively cooled

7600GS
> >> and
> >> > runs 24/7 with very heavy activity, so it runs hot. My other one

> has
> >> an
> >> > 8600GT and also runs 24/7. Been running 6+ months without a

> >problem.
> >> >
> >> > Is your machine where it can get good airflow? If it is buried

> >under
> >> a
> >> > desk with things on each side, it is probably just getting too

> hot.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Robert [mailto:rldearmond@hughes.net]
> >> >> Posted At: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:48 PM
> >> >> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> >> >> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> >> >> Subject: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> >> >>
> >> >> My Dell XPS 410 doesn't play nice with video cards.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The system came with a Dell GeForce 7900 GS PCIe which died

about
> a
> >> >> month
> >> >> after I received the system.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I replaced the card with a ATI Radeon X1650 Pro PCIe. That card
> >> died
> >> >> today,
> >> >> less than six months after I installed it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Neither card gave any warning that it was failing. I installed

> >both
> >> >> cards
> >> >> in another system just to confirm they are dead.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I have the original replacement for the 7900 which Dell sent

> under
> >> >> warranty
> >> >> but I am hesitant to install it if it is just going to die like

> the
> >> >> others.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The 410 has an Intel E6700 and 4 gigs Ram installed. The OS is

> Win
> >> XP
> >> >> SP2.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> - Robert
> >> >
> >> >

> >


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Old 06-12-2007, 03:21 AM
Tom Scales
 
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Default RE: XPS 410 Video Card Problems

If you run it at 100% load 24/7 it is louder, but it is still one of the
quietest machines I've ever owned.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Journey [mailto:rainbow@oasis.com]
> Posted At: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:31 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
> Subject: Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems
>
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:37:54 GMT, Scott Davis <please@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Tom,
> >How would you describe the noise level of your 410 when it is under
> >that kind of load?
> >
> >Thanks

>
> My 410, w 4 hard drives, used in a variety of load situations --
> always very quiet.


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Old 06-12-2007, 03:27 AM
RnR
 
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Default Re: XPS 410 Video Card Problems

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:21:18 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:

>It's quieter than my ceiling fan
>


Unfortunately I can't say that as my ceiling fans (motors) are silent
even when running <g>. I have to say tho my 410 (not under much
load) is pretty silent to the point that you almost don't know it's
on.
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