> -----Original Message-----
> From: WaIIy [mailto:WaIIy@(nft).invalid]
> Posted At: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:18 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: XPS 410 Bit the Bullet
> Subject: Re: XPS 410 Bit the Bullet
>
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:51:23 -0800, "Justbob30" <NoThank@you.com>
wrote:
>
> >Sounds good, I would add 2 1gig sticks of ram for a total of 3 gigs,
> ram is
> >cheap, Windows loves ram (even xp) (don't use your old stuff, it is
> slower
> >then what in in the new computer)
>
> I think I will add the ram. It is pretty cheap compared to my 4550
> ram.
>
>
> >My advice is to try Vista, get rid of McAfee download all the Vista
> patches
> >and see what happens....I believe Nero 7 will in fact run in
> Vista.....most
> >software will EXCEPT those that write to the kernel....old anti
virus,
> >quickbooks & the like.....you may have to tell it to run in xp mode
> but it
> >should work.
>
> Nero 7 will indeed run in Vista I found out, but I have a ton of other
> older programs. Microsoft just irritates me, it's not the bloated
> operating systems so much as their marketing model.
>
> Also three words - DRM. I don't use too many MP3's , but
> why is an operating system sticking it's nose in that area?
>
> I know why, but don't like it.
>
> I'm afraid if I do a virus scan, I'll find Vista in the virus vault
>
> >I am using M/S One care live, if you have no other f/w a/v
> preferences, you
> >might try it, or you might try one of the free ones out there, at any
> rate,
> >GET RID OF MCAFEE!
>
> I use Zone Alarm Pro and AVG, also a bunch of other utilities -
> ERUNT, SysInternals stuff, etc.
> I gave my router to my brother and am not networked. No problems so
> far.
> I guess now I will install a network.
>
> >If you do decide to go back to XP, make sure Dell has all the drivers
> and
> >stuff you need to do so before you go back, I found, the Dell
version
> of XP
> >to be much less stable than Vista (I know it goes against all the FUD
> you
> >hear)
>
> I think Vista is pretty stable, just not too backwards compatible.
The
> Fisher Price GUI isn't too appealing unless you like to watch Sponge
> Bob.
>
> >My computer was bought just before Vista came out, I ran XPMCE for 3
> >months had at least 12 BSOD's, I clean installed Vista & not one BSOD
> since.
> >Since you are not an audiophile, the on board sound should be
enough.
>
> I have never reloaded WinXP on my 4550 and have had two BSOD's which
> were my own fault. For me, WinXP has been quite solid. I've run about
> every version of Windows except 2000 and have liked them all.
>
> Thanks,
> Wally
Vista couldn't care less about MP3s. DRM doesn't come into play for
them.
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:54:49 GMT, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WaIIy [mailto:WaIIy@(nft).invalid]
>
>>
>> I'm sure I will when it comes to deciding to load WinXP or not. I'm
>> SATA deficient and have been reading up on it.
>
>
>Nothing special about SATA as long as you use a pretty late Dell XP
>CD/DVD.
>
>For Vista, I'd go to 2GB. XP runs fine in 1GB. The 410 runs both
>Operating Systems flawlessly. You have lots of horsepower now.
I was going to cheat a little. I have the XP pro COA off the tower I
bought on Ebay, but just the WinXP Home CD SP1 restore disk
from my original 4550.
I did slipstream the Home Edition and SP2
I was going to borrow a Pro disk from a friend and use the COA
off the other computer which is in parts.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WaIIy [mailto:WaIIy@(nft).invalid]
> Posted At: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:14 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: XPS 410 Bit the Bullet
> Subject: Re: XPS 410 Bit the Bullet
>
> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:54:49 GMT, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: WaIIy [mailto:WaIIy@(nft).invalid]
> >
> >>
> >> I'm sure I will when it comes to deciding to load WinXP or not.
I'm
> >> SATA deficient and have been reading up on it.
> >
> >
> >Nothing special about SATA as long as you use a pretty late Dell XP
> >CD/DVD.
> >
> >For Vista, I'd go to 2GB. XP runs fine in 1GB. The 410 runs both
> >Operating Systems flawlessly. You have lots of horsepower now.
>
> I was going to cheat a little. I have the XP pro COA off the tower I
> bought on Ebay, but just the WinXP Home CD SP1 restore disk
> from my original 4550.
> I did slipstream the Home Edition and SP2
>
> I was going to borrow a Pro disk from a friend and use the COA
> off the other computer which is in parts.
That will physically work, but is, unfortunately, still not legal. That
copy belongs to the dead machine and is NOT transferable.
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:50:01 GMT, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> I was going to borrow a Pro disk from a friend and use the COA
>> off the other computer which is in parts.
>
>That will physically work, but is, unfortunately, still not legal. That
>copy belongs to the dead machine and is NOT transferable.
I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and get a copy.
Well, then I'll have it.
WaIIy wrote:
> I appreciate all the advice and opinions I received. That was one of
> the most interesting threads I've read and every response was great.
>
> I currently have the 4550 2.53 - One gig ram- LG dvd-cd r/w - HP
> dvd-cd/rw - second HD 160G-newer video and sound card-
> Samsung 931BF 19" Square and just ordered a Logitech Surround.
> Have -DSL 1.5
>
> I couldn't boot (not me, the 4550) about a year ago and bought a used
> 4550 one on Ebay and swapped until things were fine. Odd thing though,
> if I swapped the Ebay stuff to mine, it wouldn't work. I swapped my
> stuff into the Ebay one and all has been fine.
>
> I have XP Home and picked up an XP Pro COA on the Ebay case.
>
> Okay, here we go.....
>
> I was really leaning towards the 8300 for about $200.00, but by the time
> I upgraded ram and the sound card, I would be over $300.00.
>
> I was looking at a couple of 8400's on Ebay, but a solid one would cost
> me over $300.00.
>
> Since it's the middle of winter and I'm bored, I decided to bite the
> bullet and I'm blaming it 100% on you guys.
>
> I bought a pretty new (March 2007) XPS 410 for a total of
> $402.00 including shipping. I've put the specs, below and I think it
> might wrap a bit, so sorry about that. No monitor and all the
> CD's that came with it and keyboard.
>
> From the looks of things, I might have to get a sound card, but I'm no
> audiophile and that should only set me back about $40.00.
Maybe not, give the integrated HD Audio a listen before spending
anything on a sound card. I have an Audigy 2 ZS Platinum (the one with
the breakout box) left over from my Dim 8400 but I'm not using it -
happy with the integrated audio in both desktops.
PS: I think you made the right call getting a 410 and hope it serves you
well.
WaIIy wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 11:39:53 GMT, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Since it's the middle of winter and I'm bored, I decided to bite the
>>> bullet and I'm blaming it 100% on you guys.
>
>
>> You bought a fantastic machine. First machine I've owned that I thought
>> was truly better than my 4550. The E6600 is the sweet spot -- fast and
>> a 4M cache.
>
> I'm quite pleased with the purchase.
>
>> I seriously doubt you'll need a sound card. The integrated sound is
>> excellent and even includes optical out. I use it to drive my 5.1 home
>> theatre and have tried it with an excellent sound card and couldn't tell
>> any difference.
>
> Good, I won't get a card then. I bought these speakers and I just play
> Winamp sometimes.
>
> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/sp...s/234&cl=us,en
>
> My "Home Theatre" consists of a Sansui 5000A that I bought in the Army
> in 1969. I have Polk speakers and a Denon cd player. It's like a
> Trabant engine in a Corvette,
> I have never reloaded WinXP on my 4550 and have had two BSOD's which
> were my own fault. For me, WinXP has been quite solid. I've run about
> every version of Windows except 2000 and have liked them all.
You missed a good one IMHO. I loved W2K, although it did boot glacially
(boot time much improved in XP).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WaIIy [mailto:WaIIy@(nft).invalid]
> Posted At: Sunday, January 06, 2008 5:57 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: XPS 410 Bit the Bullet
> Subject: Re: XPS 410 Bit the Bullet
>
> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:50:01 GMT, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> I was going to borrow a Pro disk from a friend and use the COA
> >> off the other computer which is in parts.
> >
> >That will physically work, but is, unfortunately, still not legal.
> That
> >copy belongs to the dead machine and is NOT transferable.
>
> I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and get a copy.
> Well, then I'll have it.
I'd try Vista first. If you just can't live with it, if it was me, I'd
put XP on it and see if I liked it better. Only then would I buy a
license.
Agent 1.93 works fine under vista, so does office 2003.
Mike
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:02:03 -0500, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:57:47 -0600, "WSZsr" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Vista is fine with 2GB RAM but requires updating much of your software.
>>Considering your old software, definitely go back to XP.
>>
>
>I think I will. I use pretty old versions of Eudora, Agent, MS Office,
>ACDSee, etc. I don't like the html 'feel' of some of the new apps.
>I have a ton of programs loaded that I like.
>
>I use WinXP Classic and it's running pretty slim. I guess I won't
>have to be concerned about slim anymore.
>Thanks
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