"Bob Levine" <fake@fake.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Christopher Muto wrote:
>> "Bob Levine" <fake@fake.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:4UuRj.215$1m3.108@trndny02...
>>> Christopher Muto wrote:
>>>> "Bob Levine" <fake@fake.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>>> Christopher Muto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> bob, so what are you saying, you recommend vista over xp? can you
>>>>>> tell us why? thanks.
>>>>> What I'm saying is that I don't NOT recommend it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>> i suppose you also don't not recommend xp?
>>>> so, to answer the op's question, what would you recommend?
>>> Go back and read my original response.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> you mean the one where you do not recommend vista on a 'budget' machine.
>> got it. but that seems a little bit like you actually not recomending it
>> (rather than not not recommending it).
>
> Here's the thing. None of us can tell him what's right for him. My main
> point has been that most of the negativity surrounding Vista is coming
> from people that have never tried it or have tried to run it on budget
> systems.
>
> On capable hardware there's nothing wrong with it. And that's from real
> experience trying it both ways.
>
> Bob
i don't have any statistics on where 'most' of the negativity surrounding
vista comes from, and not sure where you get yours, but i have used it and
speak from personal experience. we can tell him whatever we want, though i
get the impression he really has already decided what he wants and was just
looking for reassurances. i can't imagine vista being the 'right' answer
about what operating system to choose for a new computer unless the question
is what operating system do i chose if i want to be frustrated by learning a
new interface, being constantly hassled by 'the man', and would like to
experience potential compatibility issues with existing software and
hardware (ie his wireless card) on my new replacement computer. all the op
asked was if he should choose xp or vista and 'is vista all that bad.' the
answer is xp, and yes (or, if yes is too strong, then there is nothing
compelling about vista to motivate you to select it) . since he is shopping
for his parents and is asking this questions that suggests to me two
important factors 1) he is not familiar with vista 2) his parents are not
expert and he will be supporting it. if the folks are still using 98 then
they clearly are not powerusers and it is unimaginable that they will find
great value in having a large analog clock on their screen or translucent
windows. and if the op knows windows 2000 (stated) or xp (not stated) then
it seems to me that he would be more readily equipped to help with xp than
with vista.
> You're pretty smart Colin being over the pond as that is what I
> told one of my sister in laws when I remembered seeing her house
> constructed (Texas, USA) and they used that foil stuff on the
> perimeter. Mine doesn't have it. That was the only thing I could
> think of when we discussed her cell phone woes in her home.
Pretty much anything I know about construction comes from uk.d-i-y :-}
Christopher Muto wrote:
>
> i don't have any statistics on where 'most' of the negativity surrounding
> vista comes from, and not sure where you get yours, but i have used it and
> speak from personal experience. we can tell him whatever we want, though i
> get the impression he really has already decided what he wants and was just
> looking for reassurances. i can't imagine vista being the 'right' answer
> about what operating system to choose for a new computer unless the question
> is what operating system do i chose if i want to be frustrated by learning a
> new interface, being constantly hassled by 'the man', and would like to
> experience potential compatibility issues with existing software and
> hardware (ie his wireless card) on my new replacement computer. all the op
> asked was if he should choose xp or vista and 'is vista all that bad.' the
> answer is xp, and yes (or, if yes is too strong, then there is nothing
> compelling about vista to motivate you to select it) . since he is shopping
> for his parents and is asking this questions that suggests to me two
> important factors 1) he is not familiar with vista 2) his parents are not
> expert and he will be supporting it. if the folks are still using 98 then
> they clearly are not powerusers and it is unimaginable that they will find
> great value in having a large analog clock on their screen or translucent
> windows. and if the op knows windows 2000 (stated) or xp (not stated) then
> it seems to me that he would be more readily equipped to help with xp than
> with vista.
>
>
Christopher Muto wrote:
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:22766EBC3FEC489D9235856B263FF69A@M2010...
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RnR [mailto:rnrtexas@gmail.com]
>>> Posted At: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:23 PM
>>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>> Conversation: Windows XP or Vista?
>>> Subject: Re: Windows XP or Vista?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:48:34 -0700 (PDT), "void.no.spam.com@gmail.com"
>>> <void.no.spam.com@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been doing some more reading, and now wonder if my parents
>> should
>>>> get XP or Vista for their new computer.
>>>>
>>>> Is Vista really that bad?
>>>>
>>>> XP is what, 7 years old now? In a few years, some software
>> developers
>>>> won't support XP anymore. (I have a Windows 2000 PC, and noticed
>> that
>>>> Apple recently stopped supporting Win2K for their QuickTime product.)
>>>> So that would be a reason to get Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Also, does the 32-bit version of Vista support ALL 32-bit apps and
>>>> drivers? Just wondering if the Orinoco Gold wireless adapter in my
>>>> parents' current computer will work with Vista.
>>>
>>> Why gamble with Vista when more like XP. Likely you have less
>>> problem with drivers if you go with XP. Worry about the future when
>>> it becomes a problem. Keep it all simple for now.
>> As I recall, the Model T was pretty reliable, as was the horse.
>>
>> It's time to just go with Vista.
>
> i think the horse is a better analogy for vista than the model t. a horse,
> like vista, would leave constant 'reminders' its presence in your life.
> alternatively the model t would subtle pollute the environment and not
> bother you for many years until awaking one day to the realization that the
> whole world now suffers from global warming.
"Tony Harding" <ToHard@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Christopher Muto wrote:
>> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:22766EBC3FEC489D9235856B263FF69A@M2010...
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RnR [mailto:rnrtexas@gmail.com]
>>>> Posted At: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:23 PM
>>>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>>> Conversation: Windows XP or Vista?
>>>> Subject: Re: Windows XP or Vista?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:48:34 -0700 (PDT), "void.no.spam.com@gmail.com"
>>>> <void.no.spam.com@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been doing some more reading, and now wonder if my parents
>>> should
>>>>> get XP or Vista for their new computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is Vista really that bad?
>>>>>
>>>>> XP is what, 7 years old now? In a few years, some software
>>> developers
>>>>> won't support XP anymore. (I have a Windows 2000 PC, and noticed
>>> that
>>>>> Apple recently stopped supporting Win2K for their QuickTime product.)
>>>>> So that would be a reason to get Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, does the 32-bit version of Vista support ALL 32-bit apps and
>>>>> drivers? Just wondering if the Orinoco Gold wireless adapter in my
>>>>> parents' current computer will work with Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Why gamble with Vista when more like XP. Likely you have less
>>>> problem with drivers if you go with XP. Worry about the future when
>>>> it becomes a problem. Keep it all simple for now.
>>> As I recall, the Model T was pretty reliable, as was the horse.
>>>
>>> It's time to just go with Vista.
>>
>> i think the horse is a better analogy for vista than the model t. a
>> horse, like vista, would leave constant 'reminders' its presence in your
>> life. alternatively the model t would subtle pollute the environment and
>> not bother you for many years until awaking one day to the realization
>> that the whole world now suffers from global warming.
>
> What? (what are you smoking, Chris?)
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