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  #1  
Old 10-30-2009, 12:40 AM
BK
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Default Windows 7

Hi All I have the opportunity to get windows 7 pro at a very cheap legit
price .
(My son owns a company that has just bought a new laptop with a 7 upgrade
from vista but he doesn't want the upgrade)
It is a Toshiba Laptop that he bought so the question is ..... Will the
upgrade run on a dell Inspiron 1720 running Vista ? or is it only for
Toshiba . Apologies if it is a daft question but I don't want to waste my
money.
Regards
BK

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Old 10-30-2009, 12:49 AM
Tom Scales
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Default Re: Windows 7

There are two answers to your question.

1) Will it work, probably
2) Is it legal? No.

You can't move an upgrade from one machine to another. It is licensed
to the machine that it is upgrading.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: BK [mailto:brian@kellyb.freeserve.co.uk]
Posted At: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:41 PM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Windows 7
Subject: Windows 7

Hi All I have the opportunity to get windows 7 pro at a very cheap legit

price .
(My son owns a company that has just bought a new laptop with a 7
upgrade
from vista but he doesn't want the upgrade)
It is a Toshiba Laptop that he bought so the question is ..... Will
the
upgrade run on a dell Inspiron 1720 running Vista ? or is it only for
Toshiba . Apologies if it is a daft question but I don't want to waste
my
money.
Regards
BK

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Old 10-30-2009, 01:16 PM
BK
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Default Re: Windows 7

Thanks for your reply Tom.
Bk
"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:79C3C2BBE3EC4285A84240713CCFDFA9@XPS13...
> There are two answers to your question.
>
> 1) Will it work, probably
> 2) Is it legal? No.
>
> You can't move an upgrade from one machine to another. It is licensed
> to the machine that it is upgrading.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BK [mailto:brian@kellyb.freeserve.co.uk]
> Posted At: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:41 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Windows 7
> Subject: Windows 7
>
> Hi All I have the opportunity to get windows 7 pro at a very cheap legit
>
> price .
> (My son owns a company that has just bought a new laptop with a 7
> upgrade
> from vista but he doesn't want the upgrade)
> It is a Toshiba Laptop that he bought so the question is ..... Will
> the
> upgrade run on a dell Inspiron 1720 running Vista ? or is it only for
> Toshiba . Apologies if it is a daft question but I don't want to waste
> my
> money.
> Regards
> BK
>


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Old 10-30-2009, 03:17 PM
Daave
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Default Re: Windows 7

Depends on the Upgrade.

Typically, Upgrades are Retail and are therefore transferrable. (If an
OEM has a special offer and sends out an OEM DVD for Windows 7, then
this type of "upgrade" would be non-transferrable.) What is not
transferrable is the qualifying OS in the event it is an OEM license.

But if you have another PC that has a qualifying OS (OEM or Retail -- it
doesn't matter), then the Upgrade license (which is Retail) *does*
permit transferring -- as long as Windows 7 is removed from the other
PC.

Just read the EULA.


Tom Scales wrote:
> There are two answers to your question.
>
> 1) Will it work, probably
> 2) Is it legal? No.
>
> You can't move an upgrade from one machine to another. It is licensed
> to the machine that it is upgrading.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BK [mailto:brian@kellyb.freeserve.co.uk]
> Posted At: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:41 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Windows 7
> Subject: Windows 7
>
> Hi All I have the opportunity to get windows 7 pro at a very cheap
> legit
>
> price .
> (My son owns a company that has just bought a new laptop with a 7
> upgrade
> from vista but he doesn't want the upgrade)
> It is a Toshiba Laptop that he bought so the question is ..... Will
> the
> upgrade run on a dell Inspiron 1720 running Vista ? or is it only for
> Toshiba . Apologies if it is a daft question but I don't want to
> waste my
> money.
> Regards
> BK



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Old 10-30-2009, 04:16 PM
BK
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Default Re: Windows 7

Thanks Dave for your reply
I installed Vista business on this Toshiba pc, there was a leaflet with it
stating that a windows 7 professional upgrade was available for a very
reduced price.(30GBP)
My son isnt interested about the upgrade and suggested I use it.
I was checking that it would work on a vista home premium Dell pc.
Regards
BK
regards
Brian
"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
news:j8qdnbarjMseaHfXnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@cavtel.net.. .
> Depends on the Upgrade.
>
> Typically, Upgrades are Retail and are therefore transferrable. (If an OEM
> has a special offer and sends out an OEM DVD for Windows 7, then this type
> of "upgrade" would be non-transferrable.) What is not transferrable is the
> qualifying OS in the event it is an OEM license.
>
> But if you have another PC that has a qualifying OS (OEM or Retail -- it
> doesn't matter), then the Upgrade license (which is Retail) *does* permit
> transferring -- as long as Windows 7 is removed from the other PC.
>
> Just read the EULA.
>
>
> Tom Scales wrote:
>> There are two answers to your question.
>>
>> 1) Will it work, probably
>> 2) Is it legal? No.
>>
>> You can't move an upgrade from one machine to another. It is licensed
>> to the machine that it is upgrading.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BK [mailto:brian@kellyb.freeserve.co.uk]
>> Posted At: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:41 PM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: Windows 7
>> Subject: Windows 7
>>
>> Hi All I have the opportunity to get windows 7 pro at a very cheap
>> legit
>>
>> price .
>> (My son owns a company that has just bought a new laptop with a 7
>> upgrade
>> from vista but he doesn't want the upgrade)
>> It is a Toshiba Laptop that he bought so the question is ..... Will
>> the
>> upgrade run on a dell Inspiron 1720 running Vista ? or is it only for
>> Toshiba . Apologies if it is a daft question but I don't want to
>> waste my
>> money.
>> Regards
>> BK

>
>


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Old 10-30-2009, 05:26 PM
RnR
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Default Re: Windows 7

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:16:29 -0000, "BK"
<brian@kellyb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Thanks Dave for your reply
>I installed Vista business on this Toshiba pc, there was a leaflet with it
>stating that a windows 7 professional upgrade was available for a very
>reduced price.(30GBP)
> My son isnt interested about the upgrade and suggested I use it.
>I was checking that it would work on a vista home premium Dell pc.
>Regards
>BK
>regards
>Brian
>"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>news:j8qdnbarjMseaHfXnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@cavtel.net. ..
>> Depends on the Upgrade.
>>
>> Typically, Upgrades are Retail and are therefore transferrable. (If an OEM
>> has a special offer and sends out an OEM DVD for Windows 7, then this type
>> of "upgrade" would be non-transferrable.) What is not transferrable is the
>> qualifying OS in the event it is an OEM license.
>>
>> But if you have another PC that has a qualifying OS (OEM or Retail -- it
>> doesn't matter), then the Upgrade license (which is Retail) *does* permit
>> transferring -- as long as Windows 7 is removed from the other PC.
>>
>> Just read the EULA.
>>
>>
>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>> There are two answers to your question.
>>>
>>> 1) Will it work, probably
>>> 2) Is it legal? No.
>>>
>>> You can't move an upgrade from one machine to another. It is licensed
>>> to the machine that it is upgrading.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BK [mailto:brian@kellyb.freeserve.co.uk]
>>> Posted At: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:41 PM
>>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>> Conversation: Windows 7
>>> Subject: Windows 7
>>>
>>> Hi All I have the opportunity to get windows 7 pro at a very cheap
>>> legit
>>>
>>> price .
>>> (My son owns a company that has just bought a new laptop with a 7
>>> upgrade
>>> from vista but he doesn't want the upgrade)
>>> It is a Toshiba Laptop that he bought so the question is ..... Will
>>> the
>>> upgrade run on a dell Inspiron 1720 running Vista ? or is it only for
>>> Toshiba . Apologies if it is a daft question but I don't want to
>>> waste my
>>> money.
>>> Regards
>>> BK

>>
>>



For what it's worth, I read this morning about 2/3 of people using
windows 7 upgrade are having difficulties and a lot of complaints are
now flooding Microsoft about it. Of course I can't say if all the
complaints are really MS's fault but the point is that the upgrade
path may have bugs or difficulties. Another way to look at it is
that the other 1/3 have had no problem. My point is just be aware of
this.

On a side topic, from what I read on a technician's newsletter,
windows 7 isn't really a big step up from xp but it is for vista.
Personally I'll wait a bit before I run windows 7 as my main OS tho I
have been testing it a little off and on.
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:06 PM
BK
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Default Re: Windows 7


"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b54me5lm5e25brm9p4lmd8d3ujuirhl608@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:16:29 -0000, "BK"
> <brian@kellyb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Thanks Dave for your reply
>>I installed Vista business on this Toshiba pc, there was a leaflet with it
>>stating that a windows 7 professional upgrade was available for a very
>>reduced price.(30GBP)
>> My son isnt interested about the upgrade and suggested I use it.
>>I was checking that it would work on a vista home premium Dell pc.
>>Regards
>>BK
>>regards
>>Brian
>>"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>news:j8qdnbarjMseaHfXnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@cavtel.net ...
>>> Depends on the Upgrade.
>>>
>>> Typically, Upgrades are Retail and are therefore transferrable. (If an
>>> OEM
>>> has a special offer and sends out an OEM DVD for Windows 7, then this
>>> type
>>> of "upgrade" would be non-transferrable.) What is not transferrable is
>>> the
>>> qualifying OS in the event it is an OEM license.
>>>
>>> But if you have another PC that has a qualifying OS (OEM or Retail -- it
>>> doesn't matter), then the Upgrade license (which is Retail) *does*
>>> permit
>>> transferring -- as long as Windows 7 is removed from the other PC.
>>>
>>> Just read the EULA.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>>> There are two answers to your question.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Will it work, probably
>>>> 2) Is it legal? No.
>>>>
>>>> You can't move an upgrade from one machine to another. It is licensed
>>>> to the machine that it is upgrading.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BK [mailto:brian@kellyb.freeserve.co.uk]
>>>> Posted At: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:41 PM
>>>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>>> Conversation: Windows 7
>>>> Subject: Windows 7
>>>>
>>>> Hi All I have the opportunity to get windows 7 pro at a very cheap
>>>> legit
>>>>
>>>> price .
>>>> (My son owns a company that has just bought a new laptop with a 7
>>>> upgrade
>>>> from vista but he doesn't want the upgrade)
>>>> It is a Toshiba Laptop that he bought so the question is ..... Will
>>>> the
>>>> upgrade run on a dell Inspiron 1720 running Vista ? or is it only for
>>>> Toshiba . Apologies if it is a daft question but I don't want to
>>>> waste my
>>>> money.
>>>> Regards
>>>> BK
>>>
>>>

>
>
> For what it's worth, I read this morning about 2/3 of people using
> windows 7 upgrade are having difficulties and a lot of complaints are
> now flooding Microsoft about it. Of course I can't say if all the
> complaints are really MS's fault but the point is that the upgrade
> path may have bugs or difficulties. Another way to look at it is
> that the other 1/3 have had no problem. My point is just be aware of
> this.
>
> On a side topic, from what I read on a technician's newsletter,
> windows 7 isn't really a big step up from xp but it is for vista.
> Personally I'll wait a bit before I run windows 7 as my main OS tho I
> have been testing it a little off and on.


Thanks for that.
I Think I may wait a bit
Regards
BK

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Old 10-30-2009, 07:29 PM
Daave
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Default Re: Windows 7

Brian, I can't help you out. I was answering Tom with regard to whether
or not an Upgrade license is transferrable. As long as it is the
standard *Retail* version like the one listed here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116714

.... then, yes, it is transferrable.

But I doubt Toshiba would ship out a Retail Upgrade DVD for Windows 7
Professional for only 30 pounds! I would imagine it is a unique OEM disk
that most likely wouldn't work with your Dell. And I would imagine the
license would be for installation on that particular Toshiba, anyway.

In the event you ever do wish to upgrade to Windows 7, I would strongly
urge that you make an image of your hard drive the way it is -- just in
case you decide to revert to your old system with XP.


BK wrote:
> Thanks Dave for your reply
> I installed Vista business on this Toshiba pc, there was a leaflet
> with it stating that a windows 7 professional upgrade was available
> for a very reduced price.(30GBP)
> My son isnt interested about the upgrade and suggested I use it.
> I was checking that it would work on a vista home premium Dell pc.
> Regards
> BK
> regards
> Brian
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:j8qdnbarjMseaHfXnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@cavtel.net.. .
>> Depends on the Upgrade.
>>
>> Typically, Upgrades are Retail and are therefore transferrable. (If
>> an OEM has a special offer and sends out an OEM DVD for Windows 7,
>> then this type of "upgrade" would be non-transferrable.) What is not
>> transferrable is the qualifying OS in the event it is an OEM license.
>>
>> But if you have another PC that has a qualifying OS (OEM or Retail
>> -- it doesn't matter), then the Upgrade license (which is Retail)
>> *does* permit transferring -- as long as Windows 7 is removed from
>> the other PC. Just read the EULA.
>>
>>
>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>> There are two answers to your question.
>>>
>>> 1) Will it work, probably
>>> 2) Is it legal? No.
>>>
>>> You can't move an upgrade from one machine to another. It is
>>> licensed to the machine that it is upgrading.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BK [mailto:brian@kellyb.freeserve.co.uk]
>>> Posted At: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:41 PM
>>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>> Conversation: Windows 7
>>> Subject: Windows 7
>>>
>>> Hi All I have the opportunity to get windows 7 pro at a very cheap
>>> legit
>>>
>>> price .
>>> (My son owns a company that has just bought a new laptop with a 7
>>> upgrade
>>> from vista but he doesn't want the upgrade)
>>> It is a Toshiba Laptop that he bought so the question is ..... Will
>>> the
>>> upgrade run on a dell Inspiron 1720 running Vista ? or is it only
>>> for Toshiba . Apologies if it is a daft question but I don't want
>>> to waste my
>>> money.
>>> Regards
>>> BK



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Old 10-30-2009, 07:36 PM
BillW50
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Default Re: Windows 7

In news:b54me5lm5e25brm9p4lmd8d3ujuirhl608@4ax.com,
RnR typed on Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:26:11 -0500:
> For what it's worth, I read this morning about 2/3 of people using
> windows 7 upgrade are having difficulties and a lot of complaints are
> now flooding Microsoft about it.


Hmm... I like to say I keep up with these things, but I haven't heard
this before. Interesting.

> Of course I can't say if all the complaints are really MS's fault but
> the point is that the upgrade path may have bugs or difficulties.
> Another way to look at it is that the other 1/3 have had no problem.
> My point is just be aware of this.
>
> On a side topic, from what I read on a technician's newsletter,
> windows 7 isn't really a big step up from xp but it is for vista.


I don't understand this? Vista and Windows 7 are very similar. IMHO, if
you like Vista, you would likely like Windows 7. Although if you don't
like Vista, you may not like Windows 7.

> Personally I'll wait a bit before I run windows 7 as my main OS tho I
> have been testing it a little off and on.


I am running two evaluation versions (one on the netbook) and preordered
two copies of 'Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade' back in July.
Now I regret it as they are just sitting on the shelf unopened. <sigh>

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2


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Old 10-30-2009, 08:23 PM
Daave
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Default Re: Windows 7

RnR wrote:
> For what it's worth, I read this morning about 2/3 of people using
> windows 7 upgrade are having difficulties and a lot of complaints are
> now flooding Microsoft about it.


If this is an online article, please post a link; I'd like to read it.
Thx.


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