"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:23:06 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
>
>>RnR wrote:
>>> For what it's worth, I read this morning about 2/3 of people using
>>> windows 7 upgrade are having difficulties and a lot of complaints are
>>> now flooding Microsoft about it.
>>
>>If this is an online article, please post a link; I'd like to read it.
>>Thx.
>>
>
>
> Well I read several articles / newsletters more or less saying the
> same thing early this morning but here's one that talks about the
> upgrade woes....
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/17434..._problems.html
>
> Google on "windows 7 upgrade problems" and you can see more. I also
> read that some window 7 workarounds are illegal per MS. I'd rather
> not give that reference because I might give some people ideas how to
> sorta pirate windows 7. It's not my business if they pirate but I
> don't want to teach them how to.
No mention in that article about 2/3 of upgrades having difficulties. I am
not surprised these is no reference to the 2/3 as how would anyone know the
number of upgrades that did not have any problems?
> No mention in that article about 2/3 of upgrades having difficulties. I
> am not surprised these is no reference to the 2/3 as how would anyone know
> the number of upgrades that did not have any problems?
They know the total number of upgrades. They know the number of problems.
The number without problems is total_upgrades - problem_upgrades.
Then to get the ratio:
In news:vnhme5dm2tjvp5rehbm63lrvpdisbkhkot@4ax.com,
RnR typed on Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:10:37 -0500:
> I think ??? the reason they said a big step up from Vista was the
> compatibility, stability and speed enhancements. I don't recall them
> telling the exact reason so this is my best guess for now till I can
> re-read that article.
Oh okay.
> Bill, how come you aren't opening the pkgs ?
What for? As I already have Windows 7 Ultimate RC running on two
computers. And they are supposed to work until March 2010. And my
unopened boxes are Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade versions. So that
would be a step down to replace them with Home anyway.
> How do you like win 7 on the netbook so far?
Well I am not a big fan of Vista/Windows 7 anyway. The OS does too much
hand holding for my tastes. And slaps your hand when it doesn't like
what you are doing.
Aside from my bias, Windows 7 is a bit slow on netbooks and other slow
CPU systems. Oh it boots fast to the desktop in record time and all like
people are raving about. But also add up the time it also takes to get
your email from boot and it isn't really that fast at all. And it is
much slower than XP. Although XP actually flies on such machines with
enough RAM. But if I liked Windows 7 in the first place and installed a
faster drive. It probably would be acceptable. ;-)
--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:51:18 +1000, "Camper" <bruce@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:22hme5t03ojl7u2v391r8mk4b4hol6j5lq@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:23:06 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>>RnR wrote:
>>>> For what it's worth, I read this morning about 2/3 of people using
>>>> windows 7 upgrade are having difficulties and a lot of complaints are
>>>> now flooding Microsoft about it.
>>>
>>>If this is an online article, please post a link; I'd like to read it.
>>>Thx.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well I read several articles / newsletters more or less saying the
>> same thing early this morning but here's one that talks about the
>> upgrade woes....
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/17434..._problems.html
>>
>> Google on "windows 7 upgrade problems" and you can see more. I also
>> read that some window 7 workarounds are illegal per MS. I'd rather
>> not give that reference because I might give some people ideas how to
>> sorta pirate windows 7. It's not my business if they pirate but I
>> don't want to teach them how to.
>
>No mention in that article about 2/3 of upgrades having difficulties. I am
>not surprised these is no reference to the 2/3 as how would anyone know the
>number of upgrades that did not have any problems?
>
>Camper
Right no mention of fractions but if you do the math..... 2600 + 1400
= 4000 questions of which 1400 remain unanswered. That's about 1/3
of their calls unanswered or unresolved, 2/3 answered or resolved.
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:31:24 -0500, "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:51:18 +1000, "Camper" <bruce@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:22hme5t03ojl7u2v391r8mk4b4hol6j5lq@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:23:06 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>RnR wrote:
>>>>> For what it's worth, I read this morning about 2/3 of people using
>>>>> windows 7 upgrade are having difficulties and a lot of complaints are
>>>>> now flooding Microsoft about it.
>>>>
>>>>If this is an online article, please post a link; I'd like to read it.
>>>>Thx.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well I read several articles / newsletters more or less saying the
>>> same thing early this morning but here's one that talks about the
>>> upgrade woes....
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/17434..._problems.html
>>>
>>> Google on "windows 7 upgrade problems" and you can see more. I also
>>> read that some window 7 workarounds are illegal per MS. I'd rather
>>> not give that reference because I might give some people ideas how to
>>> sorta pirate windows 7. It's not my business if they pirate but I
>>> don't want to teach them how to.
>>
>>No mention in that article about 2/3 of upgrades having difficulties. I am
>>not surprised these is no reference to the 2/3 as how would anyone know the
>>number of upgrades that did not have any problems?
>>
>>Camper
>
>
>Right no mention of fractions but if you do the math..... 2600 + 1400
>= 4000 questions of which 1400 remain unanswered. That's about 1/3
>of their calls unanswered or unresolved, 2/3 answered or resolved.
Just to add to my post above, I did mistake 2/3 for 1/3. I should
have said 1/3 are having upgrade problems not 2/3. My point was not
so much the math but that before one might upgrade, they might want to
be aware of the potential problems some people are complaining about
to MS. And there are other articles about these pitfalls too.
Camper, I'll give you credit for my math but give me a break <grin>.
1/3 of 4000 people had problems
Microsoft deferred 1.47 billion in income from windows 7
Those 4000 people really bought expensive software
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:39:36 -0500, "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:31:24 -0500, "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:51:18 +1000, "Camper" <bruce@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:22hme5t03ojl7u2v391r8mk4b4hol6j5lq@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:23:06 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>RnR wrote:
>>>>>> For what it's worth, I read this morning about 2/3 of people using
>>>>>> windows 7 upgrade are having difficulties and a lot of complaints are
>>>>>> now flooding Microsoft about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>If this is an online article, please post a link; I'd like to read it.
>>>>>Thx.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well I read several articles / newsletters more or less saying the
>>>> same thing early this morning but here's one that talks about the
>>>> upgrade woes....
>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/17434..._problems.html
>>>>
>>>> Google on "windows 7 upgrade problems" and you can see more. I also
>>>> read that some window 7 workarounds are illegal per MS. I'd rather
>>>> not give that reference because I might give some people ideas how to
>>>> sorta pirate windows 7. It's not my business if they pirate but I
>>>> don't want to teach them how to.
>>>
>>>No mention in that article about 2/3 of upgrades having difficulties. I am
>>>not surprised these is no reference to the 2/3 as how would anyone know the
>>>number of upgrades that did not have any problems?
>>>
>>>Camper
>>
>>
>>Right no mention of fractions but if you do the math..... 2600 + 1400
>>= 4000 questions of which 1400 remain unanswered. That's about 1/3
>>of their calls unanswered or unresolved, 2/3 answered or resolved.
>
>
>Just to add to my post above, I did mistake 2/3 for 1/3. I should
>have said 1/3 are having upgrade problems not 2/3. My point was not
>so much the math but that before one might upgrade, they might want to
>be aware of the potential problems some people are complaining about
>to MS. And there are other articles about these pitfalls too.
>
>Camper, I'll give you credit for my math but give me a break <grin>.
"Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> No mention in that article about 2/3 of upgrades having difficulties. I
>> am not surprised these is no reference to the 2/3 as how would anyone
>> know the number of upgrades that did not have any problems?
>
> They know the total number of upgrades. They know the number of problems.
> The number without problems is total_upgrades - problem_upgrades.
> Then to get the ratio:
>
> (total_upgrades - problem_upgrades) / total_upgrades
>
> Tom Lake
Microsoft might know that but not outside parties.
"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:31:24 -0500, "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:51:18 +1000, "Camper" <bruce@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:22hme5t03ojl7u2v391r8mk4b4hol6j5lq@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:23:06 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>RnR wrote:
>>>>>> For what it's worth, I read this morning about 2/3 of people using
>>>>>> windows 7 upgrade are having difficulties and a lot of complaints are
>>>>>> now flooding Microsoft about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>If this is an online article, please post a link; I'd like to read it.
>>>>>Thx.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well I read several articles / newsletters more or less saying the
>>>> same thing early this morning but here's one that talks about the
>>>> upgrade woes....
>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/17434..._problems.html
>>>>
>>>> Google on "windows 7 upgrade problems" and you can see more. I also
>>>> read that some window 7 workarounds are illegal per MS. I'd rather
>>>> not give that reference because I might give some people ideas how to
>>>> sorta pirate windows 7. It's not my business if they pirate but I
>>>> don't want to teach them how to.
>>>
>>>No mention in that article about 2/3 of upgrades having difficulties. I
>>>am
>>>not surprised these is no reference to the 2/3 as how would anyone know
>>>the
>>>number of upgrades that did not have any problems?
>>>
>>>Camper
>>
>>
>>Right no mention of fractions but if you do the math..... 2600 + 1400
>>= 4000 questions of which 1400 remain unanswered. That's about 1/3
>>of their calls unanswered or unresolved, 2/3 answered or resolved.
>
>
> Just to add to my post above, I did mistake 2/3 for 1/3. I should
> have said 1/3 are having upgrade problems not 2/3. My point was not
> so much the math but that before one might upgrade, they might want to
> be aware of the potential problems some people are complaining about
> to MS. And there are other articles about these pitfalls too.
>
> Camper, I'll give you credit for my math but give me a break <grin>.
>>
>> (total_upgrades - problem_upgrades) / total_upgrades
>>
>> Tom Lake
>
> Microsoft might know that but not outside parties.
>
Trackers have a very good idea. Order numbers are reported
by all the major retailers both online and brick-and-mortar.
It's not exact down to the last copy (Microsoft sells some
directly) but it's close enough for good estimates.
> GUEST wrote:
> Hi All I have the opportunity to get windows 7 pro at a very cheap
legit
> price .
> (My son owns a company that has just bought a new laptop with a 7
upgrade
> from vista but he doesn't want the upgrade)
> It is a Toshiba Laptop that he bought so the question is .....
Will the
> upgrade run on a dell Inspiron 1720 running Vista ? or is it only
for
> Toshiba . Apologies if it is a daft question but I don't want to
waste my
> money.
> Regards
> BK
I think the low cost upgrade license might be vendor
restricted - because is a special offer by a particular vendor for
marketing purposes - (computer vendors are not a charity) and so
understandably will resent being attached to another vendor's system
- which means will be most likely unsupported by MS if attached to
another vendor computer
(MS have all the system builder pack numbers cross referenced with
activated system details incl native licenses)
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