Win XP - Gateway FPD2485W vs. DELL Optiplex GX270 no max resolution
Dear Windows byteheads,
I am having obstinate problems trying to get Win XP SP3 on a Dell Optiplex
GX270 containing a Dell-provided Silicon Image 8x AGP card to put out the
maximum screen resolution (1920 x 1200) to a 24" Gateway FPD2485W. Win XP
identifies it as Plug and Play Monitor, but with a DVI-D cable the max
selectable resolution is 1600 x 1200 (which displays in a distorted
horizontally elongated manner) and with a VGA cable the max working
selectable resolution is 1680 x 1050. (With VGA cable, I see 1920 x 1200
available as well, but will only let me choose 75 Hz whereas my monitor
wants 60 Hz and can't support 75 Hz. Selecting 1920 x 1200 makes the
monitor blank out and pop up a warning about wrong frequency. If I check
the "hide unsupported modes" box then I don't see 1920 x 1200 at all.)
It is NOT a hardware limitation: I can boot to Linux Kubuntu Hardy Heron on
the same system, and with either DVI-D or VGA cable, Linux immediately
recognizes the screen as 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz and it displays nicely.
I've installed the latest 82865G video drivers from Dell (Intel Extreme
Graphics 2). Intel has archived only an older version of these drivers,
which I've also tried. Neither version seems to alleviate the problem.
Gateway's web site has no video driver support for this monitor. (Gateway
does offer a display tuning application, which in vain attempts to set the
computer to optimal display resolution, i.e. 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz.)
I've tried monkeying around with the contents of C:\WINDOWS\INF\monitor.inf
(after backing up the original) to put in higher resolutions for the Plug
and Play monitor, but I am not totally sure that I've got everything right
in the data field formats. Nor do I know how the Gateway monitor identifies
itself to Windows so I could try to create a dedicated monitor*.inf entry
for the Gateway. (Older Gateway monitors are present in one of the
monitor*.inf files.)
The BIOS is set to allow 8 MB preallocated to video memory. This according
to Intel should be enough to allow the OS to boot up as 1600 x 1200 at 60 Hz
at 32 bits without requesting more video memory. The BIOS does not offer me
anything higher than 8 MB. It is the latest BIOS update for this machine
available from Dell. The machine itself has 1.5 gigabytes of DDR memory
installed.
If I didn't have a dedicated Windows proprietary application that I had to
run there, I would say pshaw on Windows and go with Linux so I could use my
expensive screen. But I require Windows for my application, and the
application really wants AGP with DVI-D -- it says VGA will load down the
computer too much.
Any ideas how to get any further than this, O wise ones of the web? Thank
you very mucho in advance-o.
"HiTech RedNeck" <hitechCOLOR-OF-BLOODneck@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:Bb1pk.17823$cW3.15962@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Dear Windows byteheads,
>
> I am having obstinate problems trying to get Win XP SP3 on a Dell Optiplex
> GX270 containing a Dell-provided Silicon Image 8x AGP card to put out the
> maximum screen resolution (1920 x 1200) to a 24" Gateway FPD2485W. Win XP
> identifies it as Plug and Play Monitor, but with a DVI-D cable the max
> selectable resolution is 1600 x 1200 (which displays in a distorted
> horizontally elongated manner) and with a VGA cable the max working
> selectable resolution is 1680 x 1050. (With VGA cable, I see 1920 x 1200
> available as well, but will only let me choose 75 Hz whereas my monitor
> wants 60 Hz and can't support 75 Hz. Selecting 1920 x 1200 makes the
> monitor blank out and pop up a warning about wrong frequency. If I check
> the "hide unsupported modes" box then I don't see 1920 x 1200 at all.)
>
> It is NOT a hardware limitation: I can boot to Linux Kubuntu Hardy Heron
> on
> the same system, and with either DVI-D or VGA cable, Linux immediately
> recognizes the screen as 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz and it displays nicely.
>
> I've installed the latest 82865G video drivers from Dell (Intel Extreme
> Graphics 2). Intel has archived only an older version of these drivers,
> which I've also tried. Neither version seems to alleviate the problem.
> Gateway's web site has no video driver support for this monitor. (Gateway
> does offer a display tuning application, which in vain attempts to set the
> computer to optimal display resolution, i.e. 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz.)
>
> I've tried monkeying around with the contents of
> C:\WINDOWS\INF\monitor.inf
> (after backing up the original) to put in higher resolutions for the Plug
> and Play monitor, but I am not totally sure that I've got everything right
> in the data field formats. Nor do I know how the Gateway monitor
> identifies
> itself to Windows so I could try to create a dedicated monitor*.inf entry
> for the Gateway. (Older Gateway monitors are present in one of the
> monitor*.inf files.)
>
> The BIOS is set to allow 8 MB preallocated to video memory. This
> according
> to Intel should be enough to allow the OS to boot up as 1600 x 1200 at 60
> Hz
> at 32 bits without requesting more video memory. The BIOS does not offer
> me
> anything higher than 8 MB. It is the latest BIOS update for this machine
> available from Dell. The machine itself has 1.5 gigabytes of DDR memory
> installed.
>
> If I didn't have a dedicated Windows proprietary application that I had to
> run there, I would say pshaw on Windows and go with Linux so I could use
> my
> expensive screen. But I require Windows for my application, and the
> application really wants AGP with DVI-D -- it says VGA will load down the
> computer too much.
>
> Any ideas how to get any further than this, O wise ones of the web? Thank
> you very mucho in advance-o.
>
>
"HiTech RedNeck" <hitechCOLOR-OF-BLOODneck@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:Bb1pk.17823$cW3.15962@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Dear Windows byteheads,
>
> I am having obstinate problems trying to get Win XP SP3 on a Dell Optiplex
> GX270 containing a Dell-provided Silicon Image 8x AGP card to put out the
> maximum screen resolution (1920 x 1200) to a 24" Gateway FPD2485W. Win XP
> identifies it as Plug and Play Monitor, but with a DVI-D cable the max
> selectable resolution is 1600 x 1200 (which displays in a distorted
> horizontally elongated manner) and with a VGA cable the max working
> selectable resolution is 1680 x 1050. (With VGA cable, I see 1920 x 1200
> available as well, but will only let me choose 75 Hz whereas my monitor
> wants 60 Hz and can't support 75 Hz. Selecting 1920 x 1200 makes the
> monitor blank out and pop up a warning about wrong frequency. If I check
> the "hide unsupported modes" box then I don't see 1920 x 1200 at all.)
>
> It is NOT a hardware limitation: I can boot to Linux Kubuntu Hardy Heron
> on
> the same system, and with either DVI-D or VGA cable, Linux immediately
> recognizes the screen as 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz and it displays nicely.
>
> I've installed the latest 82865G video drivers from Dell (Intel Extreme
> Graphics 2). Intel has archived only an older version of these drivers,
> which I've also tried. Neither version seems to alleviate the problem.
> Gateway's web site has no video driver support for this monitor. (Gateway
> does offer a display tuning application, which in vain attempts to set the
> computer to optimal display resolution, i.e. 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz.)
>
> I've tried monkeying around with the contents of
> C:\WINDOWS\INF\monitor.inf
> (after backing up the original) to put in higher resolutions for the Plug
> and Play monitor, but I am not totally sure that I've got everything right
> in the data field formats. Nor do I know how the Gateway monitor
> identifies
> itself to Windows so I could try to create a dedicated monitor*.inf entry
> for the Gateway. (Older Gateway monitors are present in one of the
> monitor*.inf files.)
>
> The BIOS is set to allow 8 MB preallocated to video memory. This
> according
> to Intel should be enough to allow the OS to boot up as 1600 x 1200 at 60
> Hz
> at 32 bits without requesting more video memory. The BIOS does not offer
> me
> anything higher than 8 MB. It is the latest BIOS update for this machine
> available from Dell. The machine itself has 1.5 gigabytes of DDR memory
> installed.
>
> If I didn't have a dedicated Windows proprietary application that I had to
> run there, I would say pshaw on Windows and go with Linux so I could use
> my
> expensive screen. But I require Windows for my application, and the
> application really wants AGP with DVI-D -- it says VGA will load down the
> computer too much.
>
> Any ideas how to get any further than this, O wise ones of the web? Thank
> you very mucho in advance-o.
>
>
Re: Win XP - Gateway FPD2485W vs. DELL Optiplex GX270 no max resolution
Given that the monitor works as expected with Linux, this is clearly a software
driver problem. Take that, friends of Bill Gates!
For the latest Intel 82865G video drivers, go to the Intel web site. You will
find them among the drivers for any Intel D865 board.
I'm not familiar with the Silicon Image AGP card, so I can't offer advice there.
You might also consider replacing this card with a better quality one with
either an ATI or nVidia chipset. Both ATI and nVidia provide excellent driver
support for their video chips. Or Matrox, which is pricey... Ben Myers
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:08:51 -0500, "HiTech RedNeck"
<hitechCOLOR-OF-BLOODneck@ameritech.net> wrote:
>Dear Windows byteheads,
>
>I am having obstinate problems trying to get Win XP SP3 on a Dell Optiplex
>GX270 containing a Dell-provided Silicon Image 8x AGP card to put out the
>maximum screen resolution (1920 x 1200) to a 24" Gateway FPD2485W. Win XP
>identifies it as Plug and Play Monitor, but with a DVI-D cable the max
>selectable resolution is 1600 x 1200 (which displays in a distorted
>horizontally elongated manner) and with a VGA cable the max working
>selectable resolution is 1680 x 1050. (With VGA cable, I see 1920 x 1200
>available as well, but will only let me choose 75 Hz whereas my monitor
>wants 60 Hz and can't support 75 Hz. Selecting 1920 x 1200 makes the
>monitor blank out and pop up a warning about wrong frequency. If I check
>the "hide unsupported modes" box then I don't see 1920 x 1200 at all.)
>
>It is NOT a hardware limitation: I can boot to Linux Kubuntu Hardy Heron on
>the same system, and with either DVI-D or VGA cable, Linux immediately
>recognizes the screen as 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz and it displays nicely.
>
>I've installed the latest 82865G video drivers from Dell (Intel Extreme
>Graphics 2). Intel has archived only an older version of these drivers,
>which I've also tried. Neither version seems to alleviate the problem.
>Gateway's web site has no video driver support for this monitor. (Gateway
>does offer a display tuning application, which in vain attempts to set the
>computer to optimal display resolution, i.e. 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz.)
>
>I've tried monkeying around with the contents of C:\WINDOWS\INF\monitor.inf
>(after backing up the original) to put in higher resolutions for the Plug
>and Play monitor, but I am not totally sure that I've got everything right
>in the data field formats. Nor do I know how the Gateway monitor identifies
>itself to Windows so I could try to create a dedicated monitor*.inf entry
>for the Gateway. (Older Gateway monitors are present in one of the
>monitor*.inf files.)
>
>The BIOS is set to allow 8 MB preallocated to video memory. This according
>to Intel should be enough to allow the OS to boot up as 1600 x 1200 at 60 Hz
>at 32 bits without requesting more video memory. The BIOS does not offer me
>anything higher than 8 MB. It is the latest BIOS update for this machine
>available from Dell. The machine itself has 1.5 gigabytes of DDR memory
>installed.
>
>If I didn't have a dedicated Windows proprietary application that I had to
>run there, I would say pshaw on Windows and go with Linux so I could use my
>expensive screen. But I require Windows for my application, and the
>application really wants AGP with DVI-D -- it says VGA will load down the
>computer too much.
>
>Any ideas how to get any further than this, O wise ones of the web? Thank
>you very mucho in advance-o.
>
Re: Win XP - Gateway FPD2485W vs. DELL Optiplex GX270 no max resolution
HiTech RedNeck wrote in news:Bb1pk.17823$cW3.15962@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com:
> Dear Windows byteheads,
>
> I am having obstinate problems trying to get Win XP SP3 on a Dell Optiplex
> GX270 containing a Dell-provided Silicon Image 8x AGP card to put out the
> maximum screen resolution (1920 x 1200) to a 24" Gateway FPD2485W. Win XP
> identifies it as Plug and Play Monitor, but with a DVI-D cable the max
> selectable resolution is 1600 x 1200 (which displays in a distorted
> horizontally elongated manner) and with a VGA cable the max working
> selectable resolution is 1680 x 1050. (With VGA cable, I see 1920 x 1200
> available as well, but will only let me choose 75 Hz whereas my monitor
> wants 60 Hz and can't support 75 Hz. Selecting 1920 x 1200 makes the
> monitor blank out and pop up a warning about wrong frequency. If I check
> the "hide unsupported modes" box then I don't see 1920 x 1200 at all.)
>
> It is NOT a hardware limitation: I can boot to Linux Kubuntu Hardy Heron
> on
> the same system, and with either DVI-D or VGA cable, Linux immediately
> recognizes the screen as 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz and it displays nicely.
>
> I've installed the latest 82865G video drivers from Dell (Intel Extreme
> Graphics 2). Intel has archived only an older version of these drivers,
> which I've also tried. Neither version seems to alleviate the problem.
> Gateway's web site has no video driver support for this monitor. (Gateway
> does offer a display tuning application, which in vain attempts to set the
> computer to optimal display resolution, i.e. 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz.)
>
> I've tried monkeying around with the contents of
> C:\WINDOWS\INF\monitor.inf
> (after backing up the original) to put in higher resolutions for the Plug
> and Play monitor, but I am not totally sure that I've got everything right
> in the data field formats. Nor do I know how the Gateway monitor
> identifies
> itself to Windows so I could try to create a dedicated monitor*.inf entry
> for the Gateway. (Older Gateway monitors are present in one of the
> monitor*.inf files.)
>
> The BIOS is set to allow 8 MB preallocated to video memory. This
> according
> to Intel should be enough to allow the OS to boot up as 1600 x 1200 at 60
> Hz
> at 32 bits without requesting more video memory. The BIOS does not offer
> me
> anything higher than 8 MB. It is the latest BIOS update for this machine
> available from Dell. The machine itself has 1.5 gigabytes of DDR memory
> installed.
>
> If I didn't have a dedicated Windows proprietary application that I had to
> run there, I would say pshaw on Windows and go with Linux so I could use
> my
> expensive screen. But I require Windows for my application, and the
> application really wants AGP with DVI-D -- it says VGA will load down the
> computer too much.
>
> Any ideas how to get any further than this, O wise ones of the web?
You typed all that blather only to be told...
> Thank you very mucho in advance-o.
Get ****edo in advance-o.
HTH
--
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Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]
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Re: Win XP - Gateway FPD2485W vs. DELL Optiplex GX270 no max resolution
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> HiTech RedNeck wrote in news:Bb1pk.17823$cW3.15962@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>>
> You typed all that blather only to be told...
>
>> Thank you very mucho in advance-o.
>
> Get ****edo in advance-o.
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Cod Almighty
>
> alt.usenet.kooks
> "We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
> Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]
>
> Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
> Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
> Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
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Re: Win XP - Gateway FPD2485W vs. DELL Optiplex GX270 no max resolution
Fritz Deneken wrote in news:48a826e5$0$11688$bf4948fe@news.tele2.nl:
>
> "|><\(\(\((@>" <not.a.v@lid.address> schreef in bericht
> news:mga8w8$p7u$p@alt.fraternity.aging.saggy.****. hanging.like.sporrans.biz.spain...
>> HiTech RedNeck wrote in news:Bb1pk.17823$cW3.15962@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com:
>>
>>>
>> You typed all that blather only to be told...
>>
>>> Thank you very mucho in advance-o.
>>
>> Get ****edo in advance-o.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> --
>> Cod Almighty
>>
>> alt.usenet.kooks
>> "We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
>> Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]
>>
>> Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
>> Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
>> Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
>> Official Overseer of Kooks & Trolls in 24hoursupport.helpdesk
>
> These people are seriously sick !
Oh? I've only ever had thanks in advance marked as being rude and
inconsiderate.
> JFD
>
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alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]
Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
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