Weird Vista

Just recieved Vista Upgrade which I always wanted to install on this machine
anyway, However tried to do a clean install using the defined method and the
thing wont boot from the dvd drive just comes up with Memory Over run error
but I know the memories ok and that the drive is OK now if I install XP
using the same drive on the same machine everything is ok, and I can run the
upgrade from within windows, SOooooooooo this begs the question have MS
realised their mistake and now you can no longer do a clean install with an
Upgrade version?

"Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:FH_Uh.1817$771.875@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> Just recieved Vista Upgrade which I always wanted to install on this
> machine anyway, However tried to do a clean install using the defined
> method and the thing wont boot from the dvd drive just comes up with
> Memory Over run error but I know the memories ok and that the drive is OK
> now if I install XP using the same drive on the same machine everything is
> ok, and I can run the upgrade from within windows, SOooooooooo this begs
> the question have MS realised their mistake and now you can no longer do a
> clean install with an Upgrade version?
>

I did a clean install with the Dell upgrade doing the 'install twice'
method. Either a bad drive or a bad disk.

Nope its not a bad disk or a bad drive Tom as it works fine just tried it on
a non Dell machine and same thing happens, so maybe just maybe MS have
changed the disk
"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:FH_Uh.1817$771.875@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>> Just recieved Vista Upgrade which I always wanted to install on this
>> machine anyway, However tried to do a clean install using the defined
>> method and the thing wont boot from the dvd drive just comes up with
>> Memory Over run error but I know the memories ok and that the drive is OK
>> now if I install XP using the same drive on the same machine everything
>> is ok, and I can run the upgrade from within windows, SOooooooooo this
>> begs the question have MS realised their mistake and now you can no
>> longer do a clean install with an Upgrade version?
>>
>
> I did a clean install with the Dell upgrade doing the 'install twice'
> method. Either a bad drive or a bad disk.

I'm curious how that proves it isn't a bad DVD? Is it the Dell upgrade DVD?

"Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:B%5Vh.981$G64.481@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Nope its not a bad disk or a bad drive Tom as it works fine just tried it
> on a non Dell machine and same thing happens, so maybe just maybe MS have
> changed the disk
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46249345$0$31620$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:FH_Uh.1817$771.875@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>> Just recieved Vista Upgrade which I always wanted to install on this
>>> machine anyway, However tried to do a clean install using the defined
>>> method and the thing wont boot from the dvd drive just comes up with
>>> Memory Over run error but I know the memories ok and that the drive is
>>> OK now if I install XP using the same drive on the same machine
>>> everything is ok, and I can run the upgrade from within windows,
>>> SOooooooooo this begs the question have MS realised their mistake and
>>> now you can no longer do a clean install with an Upgrade version?
>>>
>>
>> I did a clean install with the Dell upgrade doing the 'install twice'
>> method. Either a bad drive or a bad disk.
>
>

yep official dell upgrade DVD i guesse it could be a bad DVd but the fact it
auto plays withing the OS would suggest that the leader is ok
"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4624f1a5$0$8818$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> I'm curious how that proves it isn't a bad DVD? Is it the Dell upgrade
> DVD?
>
> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:B%5Vh.981$G64.481@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> Nope its not a bad disk or a bad drive Tom as it works fine just tried it
>> on a non Dell machine and same thing happens, so maybe just maybe MS have
>> changed the disk
>> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:46249345$0$31620$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FH_Uh.1817$771.875@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>>> Just recieved Vista Upgrade which I always wanted to install on this
>>>> machine anyway, However tried to do a clean install using the defined
>>>> method and the thing wont boot from the dvd drive just comes up with
>>>> Memory Over run error but I know the memories ok and that the drive is
>>>> OK now if I install XP using the same drive on the same machine
>>>> everything is ok, and I can run the upgrade from within windows,
>>>> SOooooooooo this begs the question have MS realised their mistake and
>>>> now you can no longer do a clean install with an Upgrade version?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I did a clean install with the Dell upgrade doing the 'install twice'
>>> method. Either a bad drive or a bad disk.
>>
>>
>

Very strange but I definitely do not think it is anything MS or Dell has
done to stop clean installs... Did you try to install it as an Upgrade? If
it works then I would say the disk is fine.. Dumb question but have to ask,
I take it you only have one DVD drive?


"Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news_aVh.16$C75.14@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> yep official dell upgrade DVD i guesse it could be a bad DVd but the fact
> it auto plays withing the OS would suggest that the leader is ok
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4624f1a5$0$8818$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> I'm curious how that proves it isn't a bad DVD? Is it the Dell upgrade
>> DVD?
>>
>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:B%5Vh.981$G64.481@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Nope its not a bad disk or a bad drive Tom as it works fine just tried
>>> it on a non Dell machine and same thing happens, so maybe just maybe MS
>>> have changed the disk
>>> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46249345$0$31620$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:FH_Uh.1817$771.875@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>>>> Just recieved Vista Upgrade which I always wanted to install on this
>>>>> machine anyway, However tried to do a clean install using the defined
>>>>> method and the thing wont boot from the dvd drive just comes up with
>>>>> Memory Over run error but I know the memories ok and that the drive is
>>>>> OK now if I install XP using the same drive on the same machine
>>>>> everything is ok, and I can run the upgrade from within windows,
>>>>> SOooooooooo this begs the question have MS realised their mistake and
>>>>> now you can no longer do a clean install with an Upgrade version?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did a clean install with the Dell upgrade doing the 'install twice'
>>>> method. Either a bad drive or a bad disk.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

It's just weird because it worked fine for me.
"Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news_aVh.16$C75.14@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> yep official dell upgrade DVD i guesse it could be a bad DVd but the fact
> it auto plays withing the OS would suggest that the leader is ok
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4624f1a5$0$8818$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> I'm curious how that proves it isn't a bad DVD? Is it the Dell upgrade
>> DVD?
>>
>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:B%5Vh.981$G64.481@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Nope its not a bad disk or a bad drive Tom as it works fine just tried
>>> it on a non Dell machine and same thing happens, so maybe just maybe MS
>>> have changed the disk
>>> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46249345$0$31620$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:FH_Uh.1817$771.875@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>>>> Just recieved Vista Upgrade which I always wanted to install on this
>>>>> machine anyway, However tried to do a clean install using the defined
>>>>> method and the thing wont boot from the dvd drive just comes up with
>>>>> Memory Over run error but I know the memories ok and that the drive is
>>>>> OK now if I install XP using the same drive on the same machine
>>>>> everything is ok, and I can run the upgrade from within windows,
>>>>> SOooooooooo this begs the question have MS realised their mistake and
>>>>> now you can no longer do a clean install with an Upgrade version?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did a clean install with the Dell upgrade doing the 'install twice'
>>>> method. Either a bad drive or a bad disk.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

it worked fine as an upgrade no problems, and autoran as well without any
prompt, I did try it in another 2 dvd drives with the same effect so the
disk I would say is ok as are the drives.
"Paul" <pmt1209@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8-idnf3OidM9yrjbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> Very strange but I definitely do not think it is anything MS or Dell has
> done to stop clean installs... Did you try to install it as an Upgrade?
> If it works then I would say the disk is fine.. Dumb question but have to
> ask, I take it you only have one DVD drive?
>
>
> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news_aVh.16$C75.14@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> yep official dell upgrade DVD i guesse it could be a bad DVd but the fact
>> it auto plays withing the OS would suggest that the leader is ok
>> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4624f1a5$0$8818$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> I'm curious how that proves it isn't a bad DVD? Is it the Dell upgrade
>>> DVD?
>>>
>>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:B%5Vh.981$G64.481@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> Nope its not a bad disk or a bad drive Tom as it works fine just tried
>>>> it on a non Dell machine and same thing happens, so maybe just maybe MS
>>>> have changed the disk
>>>> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:46249345$0$31620$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:FH_Uh.1817$771.875@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>>>>> Just recieved Vista Upgrade which I always wanted to install on this
>>>>>> machine anyway, However tried to do a clean install using the defined
>>>>>> method and the thing wont boot from the dvd drive just comes up with
>>>>>> Memory Over run error but I know the memories ok and that the drive
>>>>>> is OK now if I install XP using the same drive on the same machine
>>>>>> everything is ok, and I can run the upgrade from within windows,
>>>>>> SOooooooooo this begs the question have MS realised their mistake and
>>>>>> now you can no longer do a clean install with an Upgrade version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a clean install with the Dell upgrade doing the 'install twice'
>>>>> method. Either a bad drive or a bad disk.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Wouldn't the same problem happening on other machines say the DVD is bad?
It's failing on them all?

"Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:9mqVh.1201$V7.773@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> it worked fine as an upgrade no problems, and autoran as well without any
> prompt, I did try it in another 2 dvd drives with the same effect so the
> disk I would say is ok as are the drives.
> "Paul" <pmt1209@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8-idnf3OidM9yrjbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>> Very strange but I definitely do not think it is anything MS or Dell has
>> done to stop clean installs... Did you try to install it as an Upgrade?
>> If it works then I would say the disk is fine.. Dumb question but have to
>> ask, I take it you only have one DVD drive?
>>
>>
>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news_aVh.16$C75.14@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>> yep official dell upgrade DVD i guesse it could be a bad DVd but the
>>> fact it auto plays withing the OS would suggest that the leader is ok
>>> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4624f1a5$0$8818$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> I'm curious how that proves it isn't a bad DVD? Is it the Dell upgrade
>>>> DVD?
>>>>
>>>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:B%5Vh.981$G64.481@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>> Nope its not a bad disk or a bad drive Tom as it works fine just tried
>>>>> it on a non Dell machine and same thing happens, so maybe just maybe
>>>>> MS have changed the disk
>>>>> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:46249345$0$31620$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Fixer" <ram.systems@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:FH_Uh.1817$771.875@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>>>>>> Just recieved Vista Upgrade which I always wanted to install on this
>>>>>>> machine anyway, However tried to do a clean install using the
>>>>>>> defined method and the thing wont boot from the dvd drive just comes
>>>>>>> up with Memory Over run error but I know the memories ok and that
>>>>>>> the drive is OK now if I install XP using the same drive on the same
>>>>>>> machine everything is ok, and I can run the upgrade from within
>>>>>>> windows, SOooooooooo this begs the question have MS realised their
>>>>>>> mistake and now you can no longer do a clean install with an Upgrade
>>>>>>> version?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did a clean install with the Dell upgrade doing the 'install twice'
>>>>>> method. Either a bad drive or a bad disk.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>