My experience with Vista is that it's not really the leading edge. XP
is the leading edge right now because there is a lot of software (like
some Adobe products) that don't run on Vista or require a purchase of
the next release of the software.
Surprisingly though, my experience with Vista is that it's not the
bleeding edge. I expected to have more problems with it, and ordered
a 2nd hard drive for my laptop to run XP until Vista is ready. For my
laptop needs, Vista is ready. It has been stable, there don't seem to
be as many security updates and it runs a lot of my software and
utilities.
A major pet peeve that I have is that software makers often don't
provide an easily visible link on their sites to inform users of the
Vista compatability. It's very irritating to find the answer as item
#9 in the product FAQ. I am checking Powerdesk Pro 6 and that's where
it's discussed.
I have found the sidebar to be useful for a few things. One gadget
shows the remaining laptpo battery. Then there's the calendar, clock,
and OF COURSE, DILBERT :-) The most useful is App Launcher. Multiple
instances of App Launcher can be installed. I have one for Palm apps.
<deleted very wordy diversion into companies that aren't Vista ready>
On Sun, 06 May 2007 00:00:33 -0500, Journey <rainbow@oasis.com> wrote:
>My experience with Vista is that it's not really the leading edge. XP
>is the leading edge right now because there is a lot of software (like
>some Adobe products) that don't run on Vista or require a purchase of
>the next release of the software.
>
>Surprisingly though, my experience with Vista is that it's not the
>bleeding edge. I expected to have more problems with it, and ordered
>a 2nd hard drive for my laptop to run XP until Vista is ready. For my
>laptop needs, Vista is ready. It has been stable, there don't seem to
>be as many security updates and it runs a lot of my software and
>utilities.
>
>A major pet peeve that I have is that software makers often don't
>provide an easily visible link on their sites to inform users of the
>Vista compatability. It's very irritating to find the answer as item
>#9 in the product FAQ. I am checking Powerdesk Pro 6 and that's where
>it's discussed.
>
>I have found the sidebar to be useful for a few things. One gadget
>shows the remaining laptpo battery. Then there's the calendar, clock,
>and OF COURSE, DILBERT :-) The most useful is App Launcher. Multiple
>instances of App Launcher can be installed. I have one for Palm apps.
>
><deleted very wordy diversion into companies that aren't Vista ready>
>
>(learning to be more concised and focused!)
Thanks Journey for the information. It will help us non Vista users
when we convert to Vista.
As for Powerdesk, I used it a LONG time ago but now use Total
Commander 6.55 (shareware) and like it a lot. Supposedly it's Vista
ready. You might give it a try and see if it is Vista capable and if
you like it. http://www.ghisler.com/
Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in Total Commander.
ps-- I had to Google about TC and Vista compatiblity because I could
not see this info in TC's faq so you raised a good point regarding
your pet peeve. Now you creditibility with me just went up
another notch <grin>.
-----Original Message-----
From: Journey [mailto:rainbow@oasis.com]
Posted At: Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:01 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
Subject: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
My experience with Vista is that it's not really the leading edge. XP
is the leading edge right now because there is a lot of software (like
some Adobe products) that don't run on Vista or require a purchase of
the next release of the software.
Surprisingly though, my experience with Vista is that it's not the
bleeding edge. I expected to have more problems with it, and ordered
a 2nd hard drive for my laptop to run XP until Vista is ready. For my
laptop needs, Vista is ready. It has been stable, there don't seem to
be as many security updates and it runs a lot of my software and
utilities.
A major pet peeve that I have is that software makers often don't
provide an easily visible link on their sites to inform users of the
Vista compatability. It's very irritating to find the answer as item
#9 in the product FAQ. I am checking Powerdesk Pro 6 and that's where
it's discussed.
I have found the sidebar to be useful for a few things. One gadget
shows the remaining laptpo battery. Then there's the calendar, clock,
and OF COURSE, DILBERT :-) The most useful is App Launcher. Multiple
instances of App Launcher can be installed. I have one for Palm apps.
<deleted very wordy diversion into companies that aren't Vista ready>
(learning to be more concised and focused!)
------
As far as I can tell, none of your issues have ANYTHING to do with
Vista. They appear to be issues with software vendors that are
unprepared for Vista, which is absolutely ridiculous given the lead
time.
I keep seeing posts about Adobe requiring the new version, but never get
a reply. Photoshop CS2 runs fine in Vista. Why would I be forced to
CS3?
"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7B4AEE517EDD4EAF9350897F54E60F57@T9200...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Journey [mailto:rainbow@oasis.com]
> Posted At: Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:01 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
> Subject: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
>
> My experience with Vista is that it's not really the leading edge. XP
> is the leading edge right now because there is a lot of software (like
> some Adobe products) that don't run on Vista or require a purchase of
> the next release of the software.
>
> Surprisingly though, my experience with Vista is that it's not the
> bleeding edge. I expected to have more problems with it, and ordered
> a 2nd hard drive for my laptop to run XP until Vista is ready. For my
> laptop needs, Vista is ready. It has been stable, there don't seem to
> be as many security updates and it runs a lot of my software and
> utilities.
>
> A major pet peeve that I have is that software makers often don't
> provide an easily visible link on their sites to inform users of the
> Vista compatability. It's very irritating to find the answer as item
> #9 in the product FAQ. I am checking Powerdesk Pro 6 and that's where
> it's discussed.
>
> I have found the sidebar to be useful for a few things. One gadget
> shows the remaining laptpo battery. Then there's the calendar, clock,
> and OF COURSE, DILBERT :-) The most useful is App Launcher. Multiple
> instances of App Launcher can be installed. I have one for Palm apps.
>
> <deleted very wordy diversion into companies that aren't Vista ready>
>
> (learning to be more concised and focused!)
>
> ------
>
> As far as I can tell, none of your issues have ANYTHING to do with
> Vista. They appear to be issues with software vendors that are
> unprepared for Vista, which is absolutely ridiculous given the lead
> time.
>
> I keep seeing posts about Adobe requiring the new version, but never get
> a reply. Photoshop CS2 runs fine in Vista. Why would I be forced to
> CS3?
>
> Tom
>
the only problem i had with Vista running on my D820 was musicmatch jukebox,
which for reasons only yahoo know I cant upgrade to yahoo jukebox even
though I have a all future upgrade key, however all I did was intall version
8 of jukebox and run it in win xp mode and it runs fine with no problems
whatso ever , so my advice would be to anyone who cant get their software to
work then try copatability mode for it, and make sure you tick run as
adminitrator in the properties box
On Sun, 6 May 2007 08:42:28 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>------
>
>As far as I can tell, none of your issues have ANYTHING to do with
>Vista. They appear to be issues with software vendors that are
>unprepared for Vista, which is absolutely ridiculous given the lead
>time.
>
>I keep seeing posts about Adobe requiring the new version, but never get
>a reply. Photoshop CS2 runs fine in Vista. Why would I be forced to
>CS3?
>
>Tom
On Sun, 6 May 2007 08:42:28 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>As far as I can tell, none of your issues have ANYTHING to do with
>Vista. They appear to be issues with software vendors that are
>unprepared for Vista, which is absolutely ridiculous given the lead
>time.
>
>I keep seeing posts about Adobe requiring the new version, but never get
>a reply. Photoshop CS2 runs fine in Vista. Why would I be forced to
>CS3?
>
>Tom
Cont'd...
just to add to my previous post, anyone interested might make note of
"page 7".
-----Original Message-----
From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
Posted At: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:48 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
Subject: Re: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
On Sun, 6 May 2007 08:42:28 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>------
>
>As far as I can tell, none of your issues have ANYTHING to do with
>Vista. They appear to be issues with software vendors that are
>unprepared for Vista, which is absolutely ridiculous given the lead
>time.
>
>I keep seeing posts about Adobe requiring the new version, but never
get
>a reply. Photoshop CS2 runs fine in Vista. Why would I be forced to
>CS3?
>
>Tom
Guess it doesn't seem to exciting to me. Some do, some don't. Looks
like the current release and at least one back works on almost all the
products (can't say I checked them all). The majors (PS, InDesign)
etc., all seem to work in CS2, which has been out for a couple years.
Their position, which is reasonable, is that their 'certified' releases
are the current ones, including CS3. Again, reasonable.
What would you have them do? Give free upgrades to everyone? It's not
like everyone is going to vista at light speed.
On Sun, 6 May 2007 12:38:36 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
>Posted At: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:48 AM
>Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>Conversation: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
>Subject: Re: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
>
>On Sun, 6 May 2007 08:42:28 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>------
>>
>>As far as I can tell, none of your issues have ANYTHING to do with
>>Vista. They appear to be issues with software vendors that are
>>unprepared for Vista, which is absolutely ridiculous given the lead
>>time.
>>
>>I keep seeing posts about Adobe requiring the new version, but never
>get
>>a reply. Photoshop CS2 runs fine in Vista. Why would I be forced to
>>CS3?
>>
>>Tom
>
>
>Easy Tom.
>Maybe it does maybe it doesn't work (I don't know) so here is what
>Adobe says......
>http://www.adobe.com/support/product...and_windows_vi
>sta.pdf
>
>------------------
>
>Guess it doesn't seem to exciting to me. Some do, some don't. Looks
>like the current release and at least one back works on almost all the
>products (can't say I checked them all). The majors (PS, InDesign)
>etc., all seem to work in CS2, which has been out for a couple years.
>
>Their position, which is reasonable, is that their 'certified' releases
>are the current ones, including CS3. Again, reasonable.
>
>What would you have them do? Give free upgrades to everyone? It's not
>like everyone is going to vista at light speed.
Nothing because I do NOT care. Upgrades for free, sure if that makes
Adobe happy. Agreed, not all are rushing into Vista (like myself).
I only offered my post as information. I could care less whether
Adobe works or doesn't work with Vista. I just thought between you
and Journey, this information might settle your difference of opinion.
Last, don't get me started on Licenses as you don't want to go there.
-----Original Message-----
From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
Posted At: Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:20 PM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
Subject: Re: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
On Sun, 6 May 2007 12:38:36 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
>Posted At: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:48 AM
>Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>Conversation: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
>Subject: Re: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
>
>On Sun, 6 May 2007 08:42:28 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>------
>>
>>As far as I can tell, none of your issues have ANYTHING to do with
>>Vista. They appear to be issues with software vendors that are
>>unprepared for Vista, which is absolutely ridiculous given the lead
>>time.
>>
>>I keep seeing posts about Adobe requiring the new version, but never
>get
>>a reply. Photoshop CS2 runs fine in Vista. Why would I be forced to
>>CS3?
>>
>>Tom
>
>
>Easy Tom.
>Maybe it does maybe it doesn't work (I don't know) so here is what
>Adobe says......
>http://www.adobe.com/support/product..._and_windows_v
i
>sta.pdf
>
>------------------
>
>Guess it doesn't seem to exciting to me. Some do, some don't. Looks
>like the current release and at least one back works on almost all the
>products (can't say I checked them all). The majors (PS, InDesign)
>etc., all seem to work in CS2, which has been out for a couple years.
>
>Their position, which is reasonable, is that their 'certified' releases
>are the current ones, including CS3. Again, reasonable.
>
>What would you have them do? Give free upgrades to everyone? It's not
>like everyone is going to vista at light speed.
Nothing because I do NOT care. Upgrades for free, sure if that makes
Adobe happy. Agreed, not all are rushing into Vista (like myself).
I only offered my post as information. I could care less whether
Adobe works or doesn't work with Vista. I just thought between you
and Journey, this information might settle your difference of opinion.
Last, don't get me started on Licenses as you don't want to go there.
------
Not really a difference of opinion. I just see the 'Adobe doesn't work
on Vista' posts everywhere, not just this forum. I don't know why
people are picking on Adobe, but it just is not fact.
On Sun, 6 May 2007 13:51:34 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
>Posted At: Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:20 PM
>Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>Conversation: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
>Subject: Re: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
>
>On Sun, 6 May 2007 12:38:36 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
>>Posted At: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:48 AM
>>Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>Conversation: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
>>Subject: Re: Vista: Not the Bleeding Edge
>>
>>On Sun, 6 May 2007 08:42:28 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>------
>>>
>>>As far as I can tell, none of your issues have ANYTHING to do with
>>>Vista. They appear to be issues with software vendors that are
>>>unprepared for Vista, which is absolutely ridiculous given the lead
>>>time.
>>>
>>>I keep seeing posts about Adobe requiring the new version, but never
>>get
>>>a reply. Photoshop CS2 runs fine in Vista. Why would I be forced to
>>>CS3?
>>>
>>>Tom
>>
>>
>>Easy Tom.
>>Maybe it does maybe it doesn't work (I don't know) so here is what
>>Adobe says......
>>http://www.adobe.com/support/product..._and_windows_v
>i
>>sta.pdf
>>
>>------------------
>>
>>Guess it doesn't seem to exciting to me. Some do, some don't. Looks
>>like the current release and at least one back works on almost all the
>>products (can't say I checked them all). The majors (PS, InDesign)
>>etc., all seem to work in CS2, which has been out for a couple years.
>>
>>Their position, which is reasonable, is that their 'certified' releases
>>are the current ones, including CS3. Again, reasonable.
>>
>>What would you have them do? Give free upgrades to everyone? It's not
>>like everyone is going to vista at light speed.
>
>
>Nothing because I do NOT care. Upgrades for free, sure if that makes
>Adobe happy. Agreed, not all are rushing into Vista (like myself).
>
>I only offered my post as information. I could care less whether
>Adobe works or doesn't work with Vista. I just thought between you
>and Journey, this information might settle your difference of opinion.
>Last, don't get me started on Licenses as you don't want to go there.
>
>------
>
>Not really a difference of opinion. I just see the 'Adobe doesn't work
>on Vista' posts everywhere, not just this forum. I don't know why
>people are picking on Adobe, but it just is not fact.
>
>
I don't know Tom but perhaps it's a testimony to the popularity of
Adobe products? And as far as I can tell in regard to CS2, I
interpret Adobe's own words "Installs and runs with minimal known
issues" as meaning it is WRONG to say it won't run under Vista.
I guess what I'm saying NOW is that I agree with you tho I don't
really care either way.
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