Vista Biz Clean Install

Anyone attempted to do a clean install using the Dell Vista Business upgrade
DVD?

Yes, and it works, but there is a trick to it.

First install it to a clean hard drive, but do NOT give it the product
key. It will ask you which version to install. Make sure you pick Vista
Business. It will install in 30-day trial mode. Do NOT activate it.

Then, from Windows Vista, run the install again and this time DO give it
the product key. It will recognize that it is doing a valid upgrade
(Vista upgrades Vista). You can then activate it.

Works just fine.

Tom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bone [mailtoawgC1@gmail.com]
> Posted At: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:40 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
> Subject: Vista Biz Clean Install
>
> Anyone attempted to do a clean install using the Dell Vista Business
> upgrade
> DVD?

"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:000301c7bb39$dad87fa0$de01a8c0@t9200...
> Yes, and it works, but there is a trick to it.
>
> First install it to a clean hard drive, but do NOT give it the product
> key. It will ask you which version to install. Make sure you pick Vista
> Business. It will install in 30-day trial mode. Do NOT activate it.
>
> Then, from Windows Vista, run the install again and this time DO give it
> the product key. It will recognize that it is doing a valid upgrade
> (Vista upgrades Vista). You can then activate it.
>
> Works just fine.
>
> Tom
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bone [mailtoawgC1@gmail.com]
>> Posted At: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:40 AM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
>> Subject: Vista Biz Clean Install
>>
>> Anyone attempted to do a clean install using the Dell Vista Business
>> upgrade
>> DVD?
>

Tom, will this work on a dual boot (XP/Vista)?

Thanks

This is _very_ helpful. I'm surprised that Dell doesn't document it
better. Or, do they want someone to install over XP? That would be a
pain, seems like it would leave a lot of junk on the system.

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:12:35 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Yes, and it works, but there is a trick to it.
>
>First install it to a clean hard drive, but do NOT give it the product
>key. It will ask you which version to install. Make sure you pick Vista
>Business. It will install in 30-day trial mode. Do NOT activate it.
>
>Then, from Windows Vista, run the install again and this time DO give it
>the product key. It will recognize that it is doing a valid upgrade
>(Vista upgrades Vista). You can then activate it.
>
>Works just fine.
>
>Tom
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bone [mailtoawgC1@gmail.com]
>> Posted At: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:40 AM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
>> Subject: Vista Biz Clean Install
>>
>> Anyone attempted to do a clean install using the Dell Vista Business
>> upgrade
>> DVD?

Tom - I tried that procedure however on the 2nd boot, it would not allow me
to enter the product key code.So I clicked cancel and the system booted on
up. There must be an option somewhere to del the partition, FYI, these are
the procedures I tried, http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932

On a side note, there no burner software I saw so I had Dell send me the
Sonic DE version. Works fine after you install the patch from Roxio.


"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:000301c7bb39$dad87fa0$de01a8c0@t9200...
> Yes, and it works, but there is a trick to it.
>
> First install it to a clean hard drive, but do NOT give it the product
> key. It will ask you which version to install. Make sure you pick Vista
> Business. It will install in 30-day trial mode. Do NOT activate it.
>
> Then, from Windows Vista, run the install again and this time DO give it
> the product key. It will recognize that it is doing a valid upgrade
> (Vista upgrades Vista). You can then activate it.
>
> Works just fine.
>
> Tom
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bone [mailtoawgC1@gmail.com]
>> Posted At: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:40 AM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
>> Subject: Vista Biz Clean Install
>>
>> Anyone attempted to do a clean install using the Dell Vista Business
>> upgrade
>> DVD?
>

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:12:35 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Yes, and it works, but there is a trick to it.
>
>First install it to a clean hard drive, but do NOT give it the product
>key. It will ask you which version to install. Make sure you pick Vista
>Business. It will install in 30-day trial mode. Do NOT activate it.
>
>Then, from Windows Vista, run the install again and this time DO give it
>the product key. It will recognize that it is doing a valid upgrade
>(Vista upgrades Vista). You can then activate it.
>
>Works just fine.
>
>Tom
>
Tom, Bone (or anybody else)

INFO Only:

I have used the clean install method before several times but using
the retail Upgrade version Vista Home Premium and Vista Ultimate not
the Dell supplied DVD. I found that unlike other versions of windows
it would not install to a clean HDD.
One MB was an Intel DG965OT (similar to the Dell 520) and I was using
the Intel Matrix Raid Array.
Set up the array using the BIOS so had the partitions which were of
course unformatted and not set active. When I fed the installation
program the Raid driver diskette setup found the correct driver but
told me it could not find any compatible hardware.
I loaded my old Partition Magic (8) and formatted and set the
partition active and all went as planned.
I have had to do this on several different brands of MB.
Creating the partition and setting it active was not necessary on a
machine with just a standard HDD (PATA or SATA) only the machines
using Raid Array.

Art

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bone [mailtoawgC1@gmail.com]
>> Posted At: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:40 AM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
>> Subject: Vista Biz Clean Install
>>
>> Anyone attempted to do a clean install using the Dell Vista Business
>> upgrade
>> DVD?

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:27:30 -0500, Journey <rainbow@oasis.com> wrote:

>This is _very_ helpful. I'm surprised that Dell doesn't document it
>better. Or, do they want someone to install over XP? That would be a
>pain, seems like it would leave a lot of junk on the system.
>
>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:12:35 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>

Dell will not document it because it is not a valid method and not
sanctioned by MS so will not/can not be sanctioned by Dell.
It is something that slipped through the crack when MS was writing the
setup scripts.

Art

>>Yes, and it works, but there is a trick to it.
>>
>>First install it to a clean hard drive, but do NOT give it the product
>>key. It will ask you which version to install. Make sure you pick Vista
>>Business. It will install in 30-day trial mode. Do NOT activate it.
>>
>>Then, from Windows Vista, run the install again and this time DO give it
>>the product key. It will recognize that it is doing a valid upgrade
>>(Vista upgrades Vista). You can then activate it.
>>
>>Works just fine.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bone [mailtoawgC1@gmail.com]
>>> Posted At: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:40 AM
>>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
>>> Subject: Vista Biz Clean Install
>>>
>>> Anyone attempted to do a clean install using the Dell Vista Business
>>> upgrade
>>> DVD?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin M. [mailto:kmills22xx@Bellsouth.net]
> Posted At: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:05 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
> Subject: Re: Vista Biz Clean Install
>
>
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:000301c7bb39$dad87fa0$de01a8c0@t9200...
> > Yes, and it works, but there is a trick to it.
> >
> > First install it to a clean hard drive, but do NOT give it the
> product
> > key. It will ask you which version to install. Make sure you pick
> Vista
> > Business. It will install in 30-day trial mode. Do NOT activate it.
> >
> > Then, from Windows Vista, run the install again and this time DO
give
> it
> > the product key. It will recognize that it is doing a valid upgrade
> > (Vista upgrades Vista). You can then activate it.
> >
> > Works just fine.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bone [mailtoawgC1@gmail.com]
> >> Posted At: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:40 AM
> >> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> >> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
> >> Subject: Vista Biz Clean Install
> >>
> >> Anyone attempted to do a clean install using the Dell Vista
Business
> >> upgrade
> >> DVD?
> >
>
> Tom, will this work on a dual boot (XP/Vista)?
>
> Thanks


Dual boot is even easier. You need an empty partition or hard drive.
Boot XP. Insert the Vista disk. When the install program runs under
XP, install to the empty partition/drive. Vista will setup a dual boot
menu.

Only one install

You HAVE to install Vista from within XP to get dual boot.

There is a bug with restore points, so you're essentially running bare
on restore points. I believe Barry has a work around, but I don't know
it.

The second time did you run the install from WITHIN Windows? You have
to.

If it doesn't let you enter it, you should be able to finish the install
and then it will prompt you when you activate.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bone [mailtoawgC1@gmail.com]
> Posted At: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:46 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
> Subject: Re: Vista Biz Clean Install
>
> Tom - I tried that procedure however on the 2nd boot, it would not
> allow me
> to enter the product key code.So I clicked cancel and the system
booted
> on
> up. There must be an option somewhere to del the partition, FYI, these
> are
> the procedures I tried,
> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932
>
> On a side note, there no burner software I saw so I had Dell send me
> the
> Sonic DE version. Works fine after you install the patch from Roxio.
>
>
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:000301c7bb39$dad87fa0$de01a8c0@t9200...
> > Yes, and it works, but there is a trick to it.
> >
> > First install it to a clean hard drive, but do NOT give it the
> product
> > key. It will ask you which version to install. Make sure you pick
> Vista
> > Business. It will install in 30-day trial mode. Do NOT activate it.
> >
> > Then, from Windows Vista, run the install again and this time DO
give
> it
> > the product key. It will recognize that it is doing a valid upgrade
> > (Vista upgrades Vista). You can then activate it.
> >
> > Works just fine.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bone [mailtoawgC1@gmail.com]
> >> Posted At: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:40 AM
> >> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> >> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
> >> Subject: Vista Biz Clean Install
> >>
> >> Anyone attempted to do a clean install using the Dell Vista
Business
> >> upgrade
> >> DVD?
> >

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Star@*.* [mailto:Star@*.*]
> Posted At: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:30 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Vista Biz Clean Install
> Subject: Re: Vista Biz Clean Install
>
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:12:35 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Yes, and it works, but there is a trick to it.
> >
> >First install it to a clean hard drive, but do NOT give it the
product
> >key. It will ask you which version to install. Make sure you pick
> Vista
> >Business. It will install in 30-day trial mode. Do NOT activate it.
> >
> >Then, from Windows Vista, run the install again and this time DO give
> it
> >the product key. It will recognize that it is doing a valid upgrade
> >(Vista upgrades Vista). You can then activate it.
> >
> >Works just fine.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> Tom, Bone (or anybody else)
>
> INFO Only:
>
> I have used the clean install method before several times but using
> the retail Upgrade version Vista Home Premium and Vista Ultimate not
> the Dell supplied DVD. I found that unlike other versions of windows
> it would not install to a clean HDD.
> One MB was an Intel DG965OT (similar to the Dell 520) and I was using
> the Intel Matrix Raid Array.
> Set up the array using the BIOS so had the partitions which were of
> course unformatted and not set active. When I fed the installation
> program the Raid driver diskette setup found the correct driver but
> told me it could not find any compatible hardware.
> I loaded my old Partition Magic (8) and formatted and set the
> partition active and all went as planned.
> I have had to do this on several different brands of MB.
> Creating the partition and setting it active was not necessary on a
> machine with just a standard HDD (PATA or SATA) only the machines
> using Raid Array.
>
> Art

Empty hard drive worked fine for me, but I used the Dell disk which, I
suspect, has all the right hard drive drivers slipstreamed.