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Old 04-30-2007, 06:23 PM
Frederick J. Barnett
 
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Default Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card

I'm thinking of getting an ATI Raedeon X1650 pci-e card. Will
this work on my system, or do I need to look at a lower number, like
the X1300?

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:21 PM
S.Lewis
 
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Default Re: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card


"Frederick J. Barnett" <fred@eatel.net> wrote in message
news:5u8c339c6dnitetb47tv8mr4nkr7l8d94j@4ax.com...
> I'm thinking of getting an ATI Raedeon X1650 pci-e card. Will
> this work on my system, or do I need to look at a lower number, like
> the X1300?
>
> Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
> "Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!!
> Do you think that's easy?!" >Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone



Fred -

Yes, most any PCIexpress card will work:
http://support.dell.com/support/edoc....htm#wp1052308

Scroll down here for step-by-step:
http://support.dell.com/support/edoc....htm#wp1052738

Whether the X1650 is the best for what you plan to use it for, I have no
idea.

What do you plan to use this for?


-Stew


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Old 04-30-2007, 08:40 PM
Tom Scales
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frederick J. Barnett [mailto:fred@eatel.net]
Posted At: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:24 PM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card
Subject: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card

I'm thinking of getting an ATI Raedeon X1650 pci-e card. Will
this work on my system, or do I need to look at a lower number, like
the X1300?

Frederick J. Barnett

It will work fine, in fact the X1300 is mediocre. Personally I prefer
nVidia, but that should be a nice midrange card

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Old 04-30-2007, 09:54 PM
Frederick J. Barnett
 
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Default Re: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:21:36 -0500, "S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com>
wrote:

>Fred -
>
>Yes, most any PCIexpress card will work:
>http://support.dell.com/support/edoc....htm#wp1052308
>
>Scroll down here for step-by-step:
>http://support.dell.com/support/edoc....htm#wp1052738
>
>Whether the X1650 is the best for what you plan to use it for, I have no
>idea.
>
>What do you plan to use this for?
>

Mostly as an upgrade to my X300 that came with my 8400. A bit
specifically for use with the Silent Hunter 4 game. I can play it fine
right now, but I do have to use the lowest graphic settings. With a
better card, I rev the settings up a bit. :-)
I picked the X1650 because it only requires a 350 watt power
supply, so I don't have to buy a new one, which I can't afford at the
same time as a new card. And there's bunches of 1650s on eBay fairly
cheap too.
Thanks!!

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:39 AM
Tom Scales
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frederick J. Barnett [mailto:fred@eatel.net]
Posted At: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:55 PM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card
Subject: Re: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:21:36 -0500, "S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com>
wrote:

>Fred -
>
>Yes, most any PCIexpress card will work:
>http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...specs.htm#wp10

52308
>
>Scroll down here for step-by-step:
>http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...parts.htm#wp10

52738
>
>Whether the X1650 is the best for what you plan to use it for, I have

no
>idea.
>
>What do you plan to use this for?
>

Mostly as an upgrade to my X300 that came with my 8400. A bit
specifically for use with the Silent Hunter 4 game. I can play it fine
right now, but I do have to use the lowest graphic settings. With a
better card, I rev the settings up a bit. :-)
I picked the X1650 because it only requires a 350 watt power
supply, so I don't have to buy a new one, which I can't afford at the
same time as a new card. And there's bunches of 1650s on eBay fairly
cheap too.
Thanks!!

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get
done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone


You don't need a new power supply. Dell seriously underrates their
power supplies. It's the equivalent of about a 450 watt power supply
from any other vendor.

I've run 'bigger cards' than that in my 8400.

Nothing from with the 1650 though.

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Old 05-01-2007, 05:10 PM
Frederick J. Barnett
 
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Default Re: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:39:32 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:

>You don't need a new power supply. Dell seriously underrates their
>power supplies. It's the equivalent of about a 450 watt power supply
>from any other vendor.
>

Seriously?? That's good to know, if true.

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:02 PM
Tom Scales
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frederick J. Barnett [mailto:fred@eatel.net]
Posted At: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:10 PM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card
Subject: Re: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:39:32 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:

>You don't need a new power supply. Dell seriously underrates their
>power supplies. It's the equivalent of about a 450 watt power supply
>from any other vendor.
>

Seriously?? That's good to know, if true.

Frederick J.

The difference is peak vs. sustained. Most power supply companies
(every one I've seen except Dell) report peak. Peak is the wattage it
can sustain for a very short period of time, for example, when the
machine is first starting up and everything powers on.

Dell, on the other hand, reports sustained. This is the amount that it
can run 24/7 forever. Much lower than peak. The card vendors expect
the rating to be peak, so they say they want a 450 watt power supply,
for example. Dell's 350 more than qualifies.

I've had an nVidia 7600GS running in my 8400 for a year. Easily
requires the same power as your x1650.

Tom

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Old 05-01-2007, 06:09 PM
Steve W.
 
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Default Re: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card

Frederick J. Barnett wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:39:32 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You don't need a new power supply. Dell seriously underrates their
>> power supplies. It's the equivalent of about a 450 watt power supply
>>from any other vendor.

> Seriously?? That's good to know, if true.
>
> Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/


It's VERY true. This poor Dim 8200 is fully loaded+ and I am running a
card that needs a 400 watt supply.


--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York
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Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
he'd have become a vegan.
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:46 PM
Frederick J. Barnett
 
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Default Re: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card

On Tue, 01 May 2007 13:09:17 -0400, "Steve W." <yahoo@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>It's VERY true. This poor Dim 8200 is fully loaded+ and I am running a
>card that needs a 400 watt supply.


Cool!!!!! Now I know. And knowing is half the battle. Thanks!!

(BTW, I love your sig.)

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:19 PM
Tom Scales
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frederick J. Barnett [mailto:fred@eatel.net]
Posted At: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 4:47 PM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card
Subject: Re: Upgrading Dimension 8400 Video Card

On Tue, 01 May 2007 13:09:17 -0400, "Steve W." <yahoo@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>It's VERY true. This poor Dim 8200 is fully loaded+ and I am running a
>card that needs a 400 watt supply.


Cool!!!!! Now I know. And knowing is half the battle. Thanks!!

(BTW, I love your sig.)

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get
done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone\


My Dimension 8400 has had a 7600GS and FOUR 750Gb hard drives in it.
Purrs right along. Amazing machine. Most reliable I've ever owned.

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