>PLINK< @#$%ing center pin in Inspiron 6000 charger snapped off

Ok, a couple questions about this.

The DC end of the charger (adapter) is a barrel connector with a center pin
that seems pretty dang thin for the job. I've always been suspicious of
that things ability to tough it out over time.

It's missing, and a small amount of it fell out of the notebook bent and
mangled. Presumably because it had not lined up properly or something
similar and got munged during some insertion attempt.

The adapter is one of the PA-12 family and is the model #:

PA-1650-05D2

With that dell PN of

F7970

Pain having all these identifiers by the way.

Questions:

1. There may be some part of it still in the notebook's connector. Is there
an easy way to open the notebook up, and poke it out with a pin from the
inside?

2. I've ordered something that claims to be a genuine dell PA-1650-05D2 from
a 3rd party source. Hopefully not a refurb/used thing. What is the
difference between the 05D2 and the 05D ?

2b. Are 3rd party non-genuine non-dell adapters safe when they have all the
same specs?

3. What is the difference between the various DP/N's ? They are often all
PA-1650-05D2's but with differing dell part numbers.

4. Is it worth it to try to open the adapter up, and replace just the DC
barrel connector? The AC end of the thing just pulls out, but in someone's
wisdom, the DC side is connected in such a way that I would have to split
the thing open.

Thanks.


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There are way too many part numbers for these adapters. I buy them off
ebay and just ignore everything except the PA-xx. The I6000 requires
the 65W version which is, I think, the smallest. It also works fine
with the 90W version. I wouldn't risk a third party one, as the Dell
adapters report their abilities to the computer and I'll bet the generic
ones don't. They're pretty cheap on ebay (<$20).

As for 'poking it out', no way. The way the connector is built, it's
closed at the other end. Trust me, you don't want to attempt it either.

If push comes to shove, I have a company that I have used to repair my
I6000 and replace the motherboard connector. It's about a hundred
bucks, but they do nice work.

Tom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas G. Marshall
> [mailto:tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.ho tmail.com]
> Posted At: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:45 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: >PLINK< @#$%ing center pin in Inspiron 6000 charger
> snapped off
> Subject: >PLINK< @#$%ing center pin in Inspiron 6000 charger snapped
> off
>
>
> Ok, a couple questions about this.
>
> The DC end of the charger (adapter) is a barrel connector with a
center
> pin
> that seems pretty dang thin for the job. I've always been suspicious
> of
> that things ability to tough it out over time.
>
> It's missing, and a small amount of it fell out of the notebook bent
> and
> mangled. Presumably because it had not lined up properly or something
> similar and got munged during some insertion attempt.
>
> The adapter is one of the PA-12 family and is the model #:
>
> PA-1650-05D2
>
> With that dell PN of
>
> F7970
>
> Pain having all these identifiers by the way.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. There may be some part of it still in the notebook's connector. Is
> there
> an easy way to open the notebook up, and poke it out with a pin from
> the
> inside?
>
> 2. I've ordered something that claims to be a genuine dell
PA-1650-05D2
> from
> a 3rd party source. Hopefully not a refurb/used thing. What is the
> difference between the 05D2 and the 05D ?
>
> 2b. Are 3rd party non-genuine non-dell adapters safe when they have
all
> the
> same specs?
>
> 3. What is the difference between the various DP/N's ? They are often
> all
> PA-1650-05D2's but with differing dell part numbers.
>
> 4. Is it worth it to try to open the adapter up, and replace just the
> DC
> barrel connector? The AC end of the thing just pulls out, but in
> someone's
> wisdom, the DC side is connected in such a way that I would have to
> split
> the thing open.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> With knowledge comes sorrow.

Tom Scales said something like:
> There are way too many part numbers for these adapters. I buy them off
> ebay and just ignore everything except the PA-xx. The I6000 requires
> the 65W version which is, I think, the smallest. It also works fine
> with the 90W version. I wouldn't risk a third party one, as the Dell
> adapters report their abilities to the computer and I'll bet the generic
> ones don't. They're pretty cheap on ebay (<$20).
>
> As for 'poking it out', no way. The way the connector is built, it's
> closed at the other end. Trust me, you don't want to attempt it either.
>
> If push comes to shove, I have a company that I have used to repair my
> I6000 and replace the motherboard connector. It's about a hundred
> bucks, but they do nice work.

Hmmm, did the uber-search thing already, and I didn't trust the "PA-12
family" thing entirely, figured it might not be what the 6000 needed
/exactly/ ....

The ones on ebay that are <$20, if you look, are all 3rd party ones, or
05D's and not 05D2's.

As I pointed out, I already ordered a genuine dell one (not from dell), it
was something like $35, incl. shipping, but I'm more concerned about what
might be left inside the machine.

I'm assuming that a very very tiny wad of bubblegum on the end of a needle
isn't going to pull the thing out...


....[snip]...


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the minute something is charged to my account?

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:44:45 GMT, "Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail. com> wrote:

>3. What is the difference between the various DP/N's ? They are often all
>PA-1650-05D2's but with differing dell part numbers.

I've mixed and matched "PA-"<fill in the blank> since the initial 600m
through *many* different Latitude and Inspirons and have never had any
problems with compatibility.

A few of them stopped working for some reason -- the green light would
come on for a few seconds and then go out. Dell has been good about
replacing them because I have an extended warranty on one of my
laptops. Sometimes Dell wants the defective part returned, and at
other times they don't.

I don't know what the difference between the 65W and the 90W ones are
and if the 90W ones charge the laptop faster. I just sold a laptop
for a profit and included the 65W one instead of the 90W one because I
assumed 90W is better.

Obviously I could have been playing with fire mixing and matching
power suppliles not intended for a specific computer, but happily they
all seem interchangeable.

Journey said something like:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:44:45 GMT, "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail. com> wrote:
>
>> 3. What is the difference between the various DP/N's ? They are
>> often all PA-1650-05D2's but with differing dell part numbers.
>
> I've mixed and matched "PA-"<fill in the blank> since the initial 600m
> through *many* different Latitude and Inspirons and have never had any
> problems with compatibility.

For the record, I bought one from AtBatt.com for $23 +$6 shipping. It seems
to have matched all the model #'s identically (if you can believe that). It
seems to work, I'll let you know if it fails.

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