The least expensive way to do an external SATA drive is also the one which
performs the slowest. You can get a simple-minded external USB 2.0 case for a
3.5" SATA drive. It takes minutes to "install" the drive.
eSATA is generally more expensive, but faster... Ben Myers
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:00:41 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:10:06 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>
>>It's time for me to replace one of my 250GB internal hard drives in my
>>XPS 410 with a 750GB drive. 750GB seems to be the best value right
>>now -- 1 TB drives are a little too pricey for me.
>
>I like to follow up with what I actually ended up doing or in this
>case buying. I ended up going with a 1TB drive because I have been
>using my computer for a lot of video and the space gets taken up fast.
>
>Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA
>3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Retail
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136284
>
>I liked the description (aka marketing) of the drive -- dual
>processor, 32MB cache, and other technology mentioned in the
>description. Sounds fast and solid but only time will tell, esp. with
>the newest high-capacity drives.
>
>If it ends up being a good drive I will replace my other three 250GB
>drives with TB drives as I need them but it will be "just in time"
>replacements because prices are bound to come down and delivery from
>newegg is fairly quick.
>
>I don't know anything about using internal hard drives externally by
>buying an enclosure so I will do some Googling about that to see if
>it's worth the cost and effort.
>
>The input from this thread put Western Digital on the
>drives-to-consider list again which helped influence my decision.
When Seagate bought out Maxtor, the company made the statement that the Maxtor
brand name would be positioned as a drive for the consumer marketplace, aka the
marketplace where all electronics manufacturers heave their crap on unsuspecting
and often ignorant consumers. I've inferred that the Maxtor production lines
will continue as before.
Seagate also stated that it's own brand name would be positioned for business
systems, i.e. they intend to retain the product quality associated with the
Seagate name.
This is sort of like GM building Chevys and Cadillacs in the old days. Nowadays
they build, but people don't buy, and that is another story... Ben Myers
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:44:25 -0400, "Cdlsrn" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote:
>Maxtor is made by Seagate. I tried one (Seagate 750) in my XPS 420. Totally
>wouldn't work. Messed up Vista.
>
>
>"William R. Walsh" <wm_walsh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:d6e144c5-c299-4e9d-a343-809ba6a83447@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi!
>>
>>> Any I should stay away from?
>>
>> Only Maxtor, which is not on your list...
>>
>>> Any other drive you would recommend?
>>
>> You've pretty well covered the bases of what's available. I have a
>> 750GB Western Digital drive that I transplanted from its My Book
>> enclosure to one with a fan. (The My Book enclosure is convection
>> cooled--no fan--and under heavy access it would get hot enough to
>> concern me.) I back computers up to it and have had no problems.
>>
>> The Samsung drives aren't as well known as Seagate, WD or Hitachi, but
>> they are very good. I have Samsung drives from 3GB (yes, 3) to 250GB
>> in size and have been satisfied with all of them. The later models are
>> very quiet and fast.
>>
>> William
i wouldnt do this. its cheaper and far better to get a simple add in
esata card for a few bucks. much much much faster.
i'm very disappointed with usb to sata performance.
you can get a esata card starting at $20, sata to usb enclosures are
usually higher for decent quality.
i also discovered that the siig cards do not properly handle dismounting
the esata drive after use.
Promise controllers are the only ones i see so far.
the dell opti 755 has a built in esata port, but are of the siig variety
so they dont dismount properly.
Ben Myers wrote:
> The least expensive way to do an external SATA drive is also the one which
> performs the slowest. You can get a simple-minded external USB 2.0 case for a
> 3.5" SATA drive. It takes minutes to "install" the drive.
>
> eSATA is generally more expensive, but faster... Ben Myers
>
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:37:47 -0400, JayB <JayB@audiman.net> wrote:
>i wouldnt do this. its cheaper and far better to get a simple add in
>esata card for a few bucks. much much much faster.
>i'm very disappointed with usb to sata performance.
>you can get a esata card starting at $20, sata to usb enclosures are
>usually higher for decent quality.
>
>i also discovered that the siig cards do not properly handle dismounting
>the esata drive after use.
>Promise controllers are the only ones i see so far.
>
>the dell opti 755 has a built in esata port, but are of the siig variety
>so they dont dismount properly.
>
I agree a card is faster but perhaps Journey doesn't have any more
space for an internal drive ???
i was referring to a card that will have an external sata connector on
it... unless he doesnt have room for a card either.
RnR wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:37:47 -0400, JayB <JayB@audiman.net> wrote:
>
>> i wouldnt do this. its cheaper and far better to get a simple add in
>> esata card for a few bucks. much much much faster.
>> i'm very disappointed with usb to sata performance.
>> you can get a esata card starting at $20, sata to usb enclosures are
>> usually higher for decent quality.
>>
>> i also discovered that the siig cards do not properly handle dismounting
>> the esata drive after use.
>> Promise controllers are the only ones i see so far.
>>
>> the dell opti 755 has a built in esata port, but are of the siig variety
>> so they dont dismount properly.
>>
>
> I agree a card is faster but perhaps Journey doesn't have any more
> space for an internal drive ???
"RnR" wrote:
> JayB wrote:
>
>>i wouldnt do this. its cheaper and far better to get a simple add in
>>esata card for a few bucks. much much much faster. [........]
>
> I agree a card is faster but perhaps Journey doesn't have any more
> space for an internal drive ???
The "card" JayB refers to is an eSATA expansion card - a card
with an eSATA controller on it - that fits into one of the PCI or PCIe
expansion slots on the back of a PC. It does not use space that would
be taken by an internal drive. For the purposes of the OP, a SATA
hard drive housed within an external enclosure would connect to this
card via an eSATA cable. The advantage of the Kingwin-style
external enclosure is that it has its own plug-in modular power supply
that powers both the hard drive and a cooling fan
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:48:01 -0400, JayB <JayB@audiman.net> wrote:
>i was referring to a card that will have an external sata connector on
>it... unless he doesnt have room for a card either.
Thanks everyone for all the extra info. about the external sata
connector. I do have an unfilled slot so that's the way I might go
after I Google around and do more research.
>"RnR" wrote:
>> JayB wrote:
>>
>>>i wouldnt do this. its cheaper and far better to get a simple add in
>>>esata card for a few bucks. much much much faster. [........]
>>
>> I agree a card is faster but perhaps Journey doesn't have any more
>> space for an internal drive ???
>
>
> The "card" JayB refers to is an eSATA expansion card - a card
>with an eSATA controller on it - that fits into one of the PCI or PCIe
>expansion slots on the back of a PC. It does not use space that would
>be taken by an internal drive. For the purposes of the OP, a SATA
>hard drive housed within an external enclosure would connect to this
>card via an eSATA cable. The advantage of the Kingwin-style
>external enclosure is that it has its own plug-in modular power supply
>that powers both the hard drive and a cooling fan
>
>*TimDaniels*
>
Gotcha. In that case maybe okay. Actually I don't mind the usb
connect on my external drive but my demands aren't that heavy.
> Maxtor is made by Seagate. I tried one (Seagate 750) in my
> XPS 420. Totally wouldn't work.
I was hoping that Maxtor's quality would improve with the Seagate
acquisition. That said, I honestly don't know if it has. I'm still not
over the 6E040L0 DiamondCrash drive disaster...a several times bitten,
many times more shy kind of deal.
I have nothing against Seagate drives, although most of the computers
I have came with Western Digital or IBM/HGST drives. Only a few have
drives from Seagate, although I do still have some old (shudder!)
ST-251s kicking around that would probably still work if I hooked them
up.
> Messed up Vista.
You don't need any special type of hard drive to do that!
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