"Juan Kerr" <juan.kerr@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is there
> something I need to tweak?
>
If you had WinXP I'd say you were in PIO mode. I don't know if this applies
in Vista.
Could you post the Maximum Transfer Rate for your HD, done with HD Tune?
On May 11, 12:02*am, "Tom Scales" <tjsca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have to ask, why would you have seven partitions on a 160GB drive? * I
> have 3TB drives with one partition.-
c: = operating system only
d: = utilies (Eraser, O&O Defrag etc)
e: = entertainment (Winamp, Nero etc)
f: = office (Office 2007, Adobe Reader)
g: = games
h: = system drivers
i:= updates (any updates to software already on the machine)
j: = images (contains BootIT images of each partition)
Overkill probably but it's the way I've always set my systems
up........makes restoring the system by flashing an image a doddle.
RnR wrote:
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 23:02:08 GMT, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Juan Kerr [mailto:juan.kerr@bluebottle.com]
>>> Posted At: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:54 AM
>>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>> Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
>>> Subject: Moving files - critique this?
>>>
>>> Vostro 1700 laptop.
>>> Vista Business.
>>> 1.8 Core 2 Duo.
>>> 2GB ram.
>>> 160GB hard drive partitioned c: d: e: f: g: h: i: and j:
>>>
>>> Attempting to move 2 files:
>>>
>>> 1 @ 4.02GB
>>> 1 @ 1.02 GB
>>>
>>> from i: to j:
>>>
>>> It takes approx 9 minutes during which the system is generally
>>> unuseable; nothing else going on apart from the normal Vista
>>> processes.
>>>
>>> Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is there
>>> something I need to tweak?
>>>
>>> All observations gratefully accepted.
>> Seems about right to me, since you've likely made it worse by
>> partitioning, not better. It has to do a full seek from partition to
>> partition between every read and write.
>>
>> I have to ask, why would you have seven partitions on a 160GB drive? I
>> have 3TB drives with one partition.
>
>
> Tom, I agree that 7 partitions sounds a bit like overkill but it
> really depends on what you will use them for. For example I have the
> same size drive and I have 3 partitions but that may not work for you
> or him.
It may not be what you think. My Dell E5520 (with Vista) came with an
add-on to read all the various memory cards. When the system came up, I
had C: 220GB(OS), D: 10GB (Recovery), E: (DVD) and F: - I: ("Removable
Disk").
--
Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
Tom Scales wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Juan Kerr [mailto:juan.kerr@bluebottle.com]
>> Posted At: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:54 AM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
>> Subject: Moving files - critique this?
>>
>> Vostro 1700 laptop.
>> Vista Business.
>> 1.8 Core 2 Duo.
>> 2GB ram.
>> 160GB hard drive partitioned c: d: e: f: g: h: i: and j:
>>
>> Attempting to move 2 files:
>>
>> 1 @ 4.02GB
>> 1 @ 1.02 GB
>>
>> from i: to j:
>>
>> It takes approx 9 minutes during which the system is generally
>> unuseable; nothing else going on apart from the normal Vista
>> processes.
>>
>> Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is there
>> something I need to tweak?
>>
>> All observations gratefully accepted.
>
> Seems about right to me, since you've likely made it worse by
> partitioning, not better. It has to do a full seek from partition to
> partition between every read and write.
>
> I have to ask, why would you have seven partitions on a 160GB drive? I
> have 3TB drives with one partition.
>
i was just about to post same thing lol
i do tend to like having 2 partitions on my boot drive
1 for windows (so i can nuke it and start fresh) and the rest for data
> Is it better to copy a file from one drive to another and then delete
> it? Or, is it better to move that file from one drive to another.
>
> Extension to the question:
>
> What if it's a folder of 1,000 files? Is it better to copy the folder
> from one drive to another then delete it? Or, is it better to move it
> from one drive to another?
Journey,
I can answer your first question. All tests were done on a single HD.
I copied a 4.5 GB file to another partition. And back again.
I moved a 4.5 GB file to another partition. And back again.
I copied a 4.5 GB file to another folder on the same partition.
The times for these procedures were the "same", to within a few seconds.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: journey [mailto:journey@merr.com]
> Posted At: Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:58 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
> Subject: Re: Moving files - critique this?
>
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 09:53:31 -0700 (PDT), Juan Kerr
> <juan.kerr@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>
> >Vostro 1700 laptop.
> >Vista Business.
> >1.8 Core 2 Duo.
> >2GB ram.
> >160GB hard drive partitioned c: d: e: f: g: h: i: and j:
> >
> >Attempting to move 2 files:
> >
> >1 @ 4.02GB
> >1 @ 1.02 GB
> >
> >from i: to j:
> >
> >It takes approx 9 minutes during which the system is generally
> >unuseable; nothing else going on apart from the normal Vista
> >processes.
> >
> >Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is there
> >something I need to tweak?
> >
> >All observations gratefully accepted.
>
> Question:
>
> Is it better to copy a file from one drive to another and then delete
> it? Or, is it better to move that file from one drive to another.
>
> Extension to the question:
>
> What if it's a folder of 1,000 files? Is it better to copy the folder
> from one drive to another then delete it? Or, is it better to move it
> from one drive to another?
Doesn't matter. Move is just a Copy and Delete, Windows just does it
for you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hank Arnold (MVP) [mailto:rasilon@aol.com]
> Posted At: Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:25 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
> Subject: Re: Moving files - critique this?
>
> RnR wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 May 2008 23:02:08 GMT, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Juan Kerr [mailto:juan.kerr@bluebottle.com]
> >>> Posted At: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:54 AM
> >>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> >>> Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
> >>> Subject: Moving files - critique this?
> >>>
> >>> Vostro 1700 laptop.
> >>> Vista Business.
> >>> 1.8 Core 2 Duo.
> >>> 2GB ram.
> >>> 160GB hard drive partitioned c: d: e: f: g: h: i: and j:
> >>>
> >>> Attempting to move 2 files:
> >>>
> >>> 1 @ 4.02GB
> >>> 1 @ 1.02 GB
> >>>
> >>> from i: to j:
> >>>
> >>> It takes approx 9 minutes during which the system is generally
> >>> unuseable; nothing else going on apart from the normal Vista
> >>> processes.
> >>>
> >>> Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is
> there
> >>> something I need to tweak?
> >>>
> >>> All observations gratefully accepted.
> >> Seems about right to me, since you've likely made it worse by
> >> partitioning, not better. It has to do a full seek from partition
> to
> >> partition between every read and write.
> >>
> >> I have to ask, why would you have seven partitions on a 160GB
drive?
> I
> >> have 3TB drives with one partition.
> >
> >
> > Tom, I agree that 7 partitions sounds a bit like overkill but it
> > really depends on what you will use them for. For example I have
the
> > same size drive and I have 3 partitions but that may not work for
you
> > or him.
>
> It may not be what you think. My Dell E5520 (with Vista) came with an
> add-on to read all the various memory cards. When the system came up,
I
> had C: 220GB(OS), D: 10GB (Recovery), E: (DVD) and F: - I: ("Removable
> Disk").
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services
He clarified that it was all partitions on the 160GB drive. To each his
own .
Lots of the partitions were partitions I have on my server, not my local
machine, so I'm not that different, other than location.
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