H.T.F.C.

#1 05-01-2007, 08:08 PM

I am ordering a new laptop & would appreciate info on new INTEL Next
Gen Wireless N addon, as opposed to the intel Pro 3945.

Dell help suggests faster speed/longer range to existing G home
network.
Are there any issues with existing wireless networks that Dell dosent
mention. The N card is only $10 more, so sees like cheap future
proofing, but don't want to sacrifice compatibility.

Thanks

#2 05-01-2007, 08:16 PM

"gg" <noway@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lo3f33t4923blrcjgrmib8j1ovnem19mra@4ax.com...
>I am ordering a new laptop & would appreciate info on new INTEL Next
> Gen Wireless N addon, as opposed to the intel Pro 3945.
>
> Dell help suggests faster speed/longer range to existing G home
> network.
> Are there any issues with existing wireless networks that Dell dosent
> mention. The N card is only $10 more, so sees like cheap future
> proofing, but don't want to sacrifice compatibility.
>
> Thanks

Get the G card (the 3945) and grab an N card down the road once all of the
kinks are worked out. People whom I respect here have mentioned that N is
still pre-standard and you might have some issues with it.

Plus....gotta figure an N card will be $50 or less whenever it becomes
standard in the next 24/36 months or however long it takes.

jmo.

Stew

#3 05-02-2007, 01:20 AM

The so-called N card is really a pre-N card, because there is no formal approved
802.11n standard. You have no guarantee that a pre-N card will work with
industry standard 802.11n gear, or with a brand other than its own.

Dell help is a lot of bull**** here. A pre-N card will run no faster than an
802.11g card on an existing 802.11g network and router. Without industry
standard equipment, you are wasting $10, but the card will probably be no better
and no worse than an 802.11g card. And you may have a throwawy on your hands
if and when you upgrade to a standard 802.11n router. Well, at least it's only
$10. I went to the MicroCenter store in Cambridge MA today, and like most
other stores selling wifi gear, they were selling a Linksys 802.11g router for
$49 after rebate and a Linksys so-called 802.11n router for $129. I am sure
suckers buy the Linksys pre-N stuff... Ben Myers

On Tue, 01 May 2007 19:08:22 GMT, gg <noway@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I am ordering a new laptop & would appreciate info on new INTEL Next
>Gen Wireless N addon, as opposed to the intel Pro 3945.
>
>Dell help suggests faster speed/longer range to existing G home
>network.
>Are there any issues with existing wireless networks that Dell dosent
>mention. The N card is only $10 more, so sees like cheap future
>proofing, but don't want to sacrifice compatibility.
>
>Thanks

#4 05-02-2007, 06:23 AM

On Tue, 01 May 2007 19:08:22 GMT, gg <noway@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I am ordering a new laptop & would appreciate info on new INTEL Next
>Gen Wireless N addon, as opposed to the intel Pro 3945.
>
>Dell help suggests faster speed/longer range to existing G home
>network.
>Are there any issues with existing wireless networks that Dell dosent
>mention. The N card is only $10 more, so sees like cheap future
>proofing, but don't want to sacrifice compatibility.
>
>Thanks

I have to agree with Stew and Ben's reply.
For now, stay with the G card/network.

#5 05-02-2007, 06:36 AM

-----Original Message-----
From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
Posted At: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:23 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: HELP Wireless Selection
Subject: Re: HELP Wireless Selection

On Tue, 01 May 2007 19:08:22 GMT, gg <noway@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I am ordering a new laptop & would appreciate info on new INTEL Next
>Gen Wireless N addon, as opposed to the intel Pro 3945.
>
>Dell help suggests faster speed/longer range to existing G home
>network.
>Are there any issues with existing wireless networks that Dell dosent
>mention. The N card is only $10 more, so sees like cheap future
>proofing, but don't want to sacrifice compatibility.
>
>Thanks

I have to agree with Stew and Ben's reply.
For now, stay with the G card/network.

Honestly, for $10, I'd get the pre-n. What do you have to lose? If you
recall the pre-g days, the major manufacturers DID offer firmware
updates to the final version.

If not, it's still a G card.

#6 05-02-2007, 02:11 PM

G-rated, instead of PG? The mfrs offered firmware upgrades from pre-G to G when
it was technically possible... Ben

On Wed, 2 May 2007 01:36:57 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
>Posted At: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:23 AM
>Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>Conversation: HELP Wireless Selection
>Subject: Re: HELP Wireless Selection
>
>On Tue, 01 May 2007 19:08:22 GMT, gg <noway@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I am ordering a new laptop & would appreciate info on new INTEL Next
>>Gen Wireless N addon, as opposed to the intel Pro 3945.
>>
>>Dell help suggests faster speed/longer range to existing G home
>>network.
>>Are there any issues with existing wireless networks that Dell dosent
>>mention. The N card is only $10 more, so sees like cheap future
>>proofing, but don't want to sacrifice compatibility.
>>
>>Thanks
>
>
>I have to agree with Stew and Ben's reply.
>For now, stay with the G card/network.
>
>
>Honestly, for $10, I'd get the pre-n. What do you have to lose? If you
>recall the pre-g days, the major manufacturers DID offer firmware
>updates to the final version.
>
>If not, it's still a G card.

#7 05-02-2007, 08:02 PM

On Wed, 2 May 2007 01:36:57 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
>Posted At: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:23 AM
>Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>Conversation: HELP Wireless Selection
>Subject: Re: HELP Wireless Selection
>
>On Tue, 01 May 2007 19:08:22 GMT, gg <noway@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I am ordering a new laptop & would appreciate info on new INTEL Next
>>Gen Wireless N addon, as opposed to the intel Pro 3945.
>>
>>Dell help suggests faster speed/longer range to existing G home
>>network.
>>Are there any issues with existing wireless networks that Dell dosent
>>mention. The N card is only $10 more, so sees like cheap future
>>proofing, but don't want to sacrifice compatibility.
>>
>>Thanks
>
>
>I have to agree with Stew and Ben's reply.
>For now, stay with the G card/network.
>
>
>Honestly, for $10, I'd get the pre-n. What do you have to lose? If you
>recall the pre-g days, the major manufacturers DID offer firmware
>updates to the final version.
>
>If not, it's still a G card.

From what I read in the past, the pre N will not be likely a N card
later and compatibility is an issue too. If this is true, why spend
the $10 more but if all this is NOT true, sure spend the extra $10.

#8 05-02-2007, 11:53 PM

The $10 is better spent on a couple of beers or going to a movie. Not sure if
it is better off used to light a cigar though... Ben Myers

On Wed, 02 May 2007 14:02:56 -0500, RnR wrote:

>On Wed, 2 May 2007 01:36:57 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: RnR [mailto:RnR]
>>Posted At: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:23 AM
>>Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>Conversation: HELP Wireless Selection
>>Subject: Re: HELP Wireless Selection
>>
>>On Tue, 01 May 2007 19:08:22 GMT, gg <noway@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am ordering a new laptop & would appreciate info on new INTEL Next
>>>Gen Wireless N addon, as opposed to the intel Pro 3945.
>>>
>>>Dell help suggests faster speed/longer range to existing G home
>>>network.
>>>Are there any issues with existing wireless networks that Dell dosent
>>>mention. The N card is only $10 more, so sees like cheap future
>>>proofing, but don't want to sacrifice compatibility.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>I have to agree with Stew and Ben's reply.
>>For now, stay with the G card/network.
>>
>>
>>Honestly, for $10, I'd get the pre-n. What do you have to lose? If you
>>recall the pre-g days, the major manufacturers DID offer firmware
>>updates to the final version.
>>
>>If not, it's still a G card.
>
>
>From what I read in the past, the pre N will not be likely a N card
>later and compatibility is an issue too. If this is true, why spend
>the $10 more but if all this is NOT true, sure spend the extra $10.

#9 05-03-2007, 12:12 AM

"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:kh5i33hbo3f7buf2jfteenei7b6e11h4jp@4ax.com...
> The $10 is better spent on a couple of beers or going to a movie. Not
> sure if
> it is better off used to light a cigar though... Ben Myers
>

I vote for the beer and the G card.

#10 05-04-2007, 03:23 AM

On May 1, 12:08 pm, gg <n...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am ordering a new laptop & would appreciate info on new INTEL Next
> Gen Wireless N addon, as opposed to the intel Pro 3945.
>
> Dell help suggests faster speed/longer range to existing G home
> network.
> Are there any issues with existing wireless networks that Dell dosent
> mention. The N card is only $10 more, so sees like cheap future
> proofing, but don't want to sacrifice compatibility.
>
> Thanks

Right now, going to wireless N isn't future proofing. The standard has
not been finalized. Meaning there's a high chance that your wireless
card won't be compatible with equipment purchased after the
finalization. At least not in full N mode.