Dell vs. Acer vs. HP

"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Woody Dawson [mailto:woodrowDDx@msn.com]
>>
>> I've been reading this group for several weeks now, and I must say, it
>> is so
>> stinking funny. I have laughed my *** off at the Dell employees here.
>> Wonder
>> if they're getting bonuses to cheer and defend Dell?
>
>
> Far as I know there are no Dell employees that are regular contributors
> here. Haven't seen any stick around in the last 7 years.
>


Which reminds me. The "Dell CA team" hasn't really had any effect here have
they? The latest post from "Mike" was generated from an e-mail address off
of www.computerbanter.com .

They come through about as often as a policeman in a very bad
neighborhood......

You've identified a Dell employee in this newsgroup? I'm sure not. I run a
small value added reseller operation (You can look it up), and I do not
discriminate against any name brand. Some name brands are better than others.
Some white box systems are better than others and better than name brands. I
have seen them all in the time I've been in business, tearing apart thousands of
computers.

And what is YOUR business affiliation? ... Ben Myers

On Wed, 30 May 2007 06:07:51 -0400, "Woody Dawson" <woodrowDDx@msn.com> wrote:

>
>"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
>news:cjmp53him1f3di6va1v4ov57f70jnv9j1v@4ax.com.. .
>> And you think you deserve a response? Sorry, you are a stinking troll...
>> Ben
>>
>> On Tue, 29 May 2007 20:55:29 -0500, "Greg" <greg.hays@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So how long you been blowing Mike Dell?
>>>
>>>"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:ltuo53tj4klhp4n3didp9n7c7rh5u7ejn8@4ax.com ...
>>>> Well, that IS more specific. I was heretofore unaware of the
>>>> definition
>>>> of
>>>> crap. Thank you for the enlightenment.
>>>>
>>>> Let me be more specific.
>>>>
>>>> The Optiplex GX270 motherboards are the ones that suffered from blown
>>>> capacitors, not the only ones in the industry to have failed this way.
>>>>
>>>> Dell settled a class-action lawsuit regarding failure of the Inspiron
>>>> 5150,
>>>> caused primarily by overheating CPUs, which operate at high clock
>>>> speeds,
>>>> some
>>>> as fast as 3GHz.
>>>>
>>>> Some Dimension 4600s were flaky, for sure.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea who manufactures the Dell notebook boards, but a
>>>> significant
>>>> number of models of Dell desktop boards carry Intel AA part numbers,
>>>> indicative
>>>> that the board is an Intel design, albeit manufactured by one of a
>>>> number
>>>> of
>>>> large contract electronics manufacturers. Overall, Intel designed
>>>> boards
>>>> are
>>>> well regarded, but, they too, have designed some clunkers.
>>>>
>>>> I have handled literally hundreds of Dell computers in the last 15
>>>> years.
>>>> Some
>>>> of them were abysmal designs, like the ones with the proprietary
>>>> faux-ATX
>>>> power
>>>> connector pinout. But in the same timeframe, literally every other
>>>> name
>>>> brand
>>>> company tried some proprietary approaches that failed.
>>>>
>>>> What else ya got? ... Ben Myers
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 29 May 2007 18:45:31 GMT, "Greg" <greg.hays@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Crap = Feces. In this case. An analogy in reference to the bottom of the
>>>>>line motherboards dell installs in their mainstream desktop computers.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've worked with computers for 20 years. And the majority of people I do
>>>>>business with has nothing pleasant to say about Dells motherboards. For
>>>>>example. The terrible motherboards they released back in 05 with the bad
>>>>>capacitors. And Dell finally replacing them after numerous complaints by
>>>>>angry consumers.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also a class action lawsuit brought on by dell laptop owners regarding
>>>>>premature failure of the motherboards in some of their notebooks. Also
>>>>>complaints and investigations regarding the problems with the dimension
>>>>>4600
>>>>>power supply and motherboard.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't get me wrong. I have two dells. An E510 and a XPS1210. Both are
>>>>>fine.
>>>>>But the E510 was inexpensive for a reason. I knew I wasn't getting a top
>>>>>of
>>>>>the line board and I had no problem with that. You get what you paid
>>>>>for.
>>>>>They contract out the board manufacturing from companies that come in
>>>>>with
>>>>>the lowest bid. They have the lowest bid for a reason.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:6fan53pjcdd6056565kq7qf5kfghm0fkbl@4ax.c om...
>>>>>> Crap? Not too specific. Can you do better? Please explain in
>>>>>> terminology
>>>>>> used in the mainstream of the computer industry... Ben Myers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:53:03 -0500, "Greg" <greg.hays@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For quality. I would avoid all three. Have someone build you a good
>>>>>>>system
>>>>>>>with quality parts. Dell motherboards are crap. As are HP. I have
>>>>>>>never
>>>>>>>delt
>>>>>>>with Acer. You get what you pay for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><quebecstat@aim.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:1180380894.881284.63250@q66g2000hsg.go oglegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am going to buy a new desktop PC sometime in the next two months.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> would like to know if there is something to be said about the
>>>>>>>> differences between HP, Dell and Acer in terms of desktops.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there diffferences when it comes to cost, quality of the
>>>>>>>> components and customer service.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I realize that this may be too wide a question. Your input will be
>>>>>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>I've been reading this group for several weeks now, and I must say, it is so
>stinking funny. I have laughed my *** off at the Dell employees here. Wonder
>if they're getting bonuses to cheer and defend Dell?
>

On Tue, 29 May 2007 21:59:31 -0400, Ben Myers
<ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote:

>And you think you deserve a response? Sorry, you are a stinking troll... Ben

It remind me of Ron's sig line: "On the Internet, noone knows you are
a jerk". I think it's often the opposite. Things a person normally
wouldn't say (hopefully) come out. The most cowardly are the little
"snipes" who post little one-liners.

Look out Ben. You got something on the corner of your mouth.


"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:cjmp53him1f3di6va1v4ov57f70jnv9j1v@4ax.com...
> And you think you deserve a response? Sorry, you are a stinking troll...
> Ben
>
> On Tue, 29 May 2007 20:55:29 -0500, "Greg" <greg.hays@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>So how long you been blowing Mike Dell?
>>
>>"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
>>news:ltuo53tj4klhp4n3didp9n7c7rh5u7ejn8@4ax.com. ..
>>> Well, that IS more specific. I was heretofore unaware of the
>>> definition
>>> of
>>> crap. Thank you for the enlightenment.
>>>
>>> Let me be more specific.
>>>
>>> The Optiplex GX270 motherboards are the ones that suffered from blown
>>> capacitors, not the only ones in the industry to have failed this way.
>>>
>>> Dell settled a class-action lawsuit regarding failure of the Inspiron
>>> 5150,
>>> caused primarily by overheating CPUs, which operate at high clock
>>> speeds,
>>> some
>>> as fast as 3GHz.
>>>
>>> Some Dimension 4600s were flaky, for sure.
>>>
>>> I have no idea who manufactures the Dell notebook boards, but a
>>> significant
>>> number of models of Dell desktop boards carry Intel AA part numbers,
>>> indicative
>>> that the board is an Intel design, albeit manufactured by one of a
>>> number
>>> of
>>> large contract electronics manufacturers. Overall, Intel designed
>>> boards
>>> are
>>> well regarded, but, they too, have designed some clunkers.
>>>
>>> I have handled literally hundreds of Dell computers in the last 15
>>> years.
>>> Some
>>> of them were abysmal designs, like the ones with the proprietary
>>> faux-ATX
>>> power
>>> connector pinout. But in the same timeframe, literally every other
>>> name
>>> brand
>>> company tried some proprietary approaches that failed.
>>>
>>> What else ya got? ... Ben Myers
>>>
>>> On Tue, 29 May 2007 18:45:31 GMT, "Greg" <greg.hays@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Crap = Feces. In this case. An analogy in reference to the bottom of the
>>>>line motherboards dell installs in their mainstream desktop computers.
>>>>
>>>>I've worked with computers for 20 years. And the majority of people I do
>>>>business with has nothing pleasant to say about Dells motherboards. For
>>>>example. The terrible motherboards they released back in 05 with the bad
>>>>capacitors. And Dell finally replacing them after numerous complaints by
>>>>angry consumers.
>>>>
>>>>Also a class action lawsuit brought on by dell laptop owners regarding
>>>>premature failure of the motherboards in some of their notebooks. Also
>>>>complaints and investigations regarding the problems with the dimension
>>>>4600
>>>>power supply and motherboard.
>>>>
>>>>Don't get me wrong. I have two dells. An E510 and a XPS1210. Both are
>>>>fine.
>>>>But the E510 was inexpensive for a reason. I knew I wasn't getting a top
>>>>of
>>>>the line board and I had no problem with that. You get what you paid
>>>>for.
>>>>They contract out the board manufacturing from companies that come in
>>>>with
>>>>the lowest bid. They have the lowest bid for a reason.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:6fan53pjcdd6056565kq7qf5kfghm0fkbl@4ax.co m...
>>>>> Crap? Not too specific. Can you do better? Please explain in
>>>>> terminology
>>>>> used in the mainstream of the computer industry... Ben Myers
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:53:03 -0500, "Greg" <greg.hays@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>For quality. I would avoid all three. Have someone build you a good
>>>>>>system
>>>>>>with quality parts. Dell motherboards are crap. As are HP. I have
>>>>>>never
>>>>>>delt
>>>>>>with Acer. You get what you pay for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><quebecstat@aim.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:1180380894.881284.63250@q66g2000hsg.goo glegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Hello everyone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am going to buy a new desktop PC sometime in the next two months.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would like to know if there is something to be said about the
>>>>>>> differences between HP, Dell and Acer in terms of desktops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there diffferences when it comes to cost, quality of the
>>>>>>> components and customer service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that this may be too wide a question. Your input will be
>>>>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>

As much garbage that I give dell, I have to admit. Their customer service is
still good. Even after outsourcing allot of their tech support. I had a E705
and noticed a dead pixel about 4 months after I bought it. Called Dell and
they sent me a return box and off it went to get replaced. Although when I
got it back it had a couple of small scratches on the bezel that it didn't
have when I sent it off. Plus it had a small keyboard screw laying in the
touchpad when I opened it up after getting it back. Must have been an extra.
I took the button cover off and all the keyboard screws were still in place.
I just got a M1210 and am very happy with it. I was giving some other guy
some crap about dells on this topic. But I would recommend them. For basic
desktops and notebooks, they really are the best. For price and reliability.

"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:38:35 -0800, Steve <pdg@wvn.inv> wrote:
>
>>IMHO, Dell's biggest advantage is this group and other web-based user
>>support forums which mostly eliminate the need to call Dell and put up
>>with crappy support...
>
> I agree about "mostly eliminate" the need to call them. I was
> thinking about hardware failures within the warrantee period as one
> example where you might want to call them.
>
> ie: I had a crt monitor fail under warrantee about 5 yrs ago and I
> decided to call their support to replace it for free. It was a pain
> free call (maybe I got lucky). To be honest I almost didn't call
> them but at the urging of a co-worker did so and the result was a new
> monitor in exchange for the failed one.