In news:9rcn749itr6rt14m5epadcm3hlm34050no@4ax.com,
Ben Myers typed on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:15:14 -0400:
> I can confirm that, except for the tiny speaker that emits beeps, the
> Dimension 2400 mobo has no on-board speaker. With connectors both
> front and rear for audio in and out, I guess that the designers
> thoughr one was not needed. As to why the little speaker does not
> emit BIOS beeps, I haven't a clue, but I would never worry about
> it... Ben Myers
As far as I know, all IBM machines (including clones) has a PC speaker which
is only good for beeps. Although MS Flight Simulator III (came out around
1988 I think) did a so-so job making engine sounds from it.
Remember PCs with sound cards were unheard of back in the 80's and very
early 90's. So the only sounds you had was error beeps and that was it.
Things has really changed since then. LOL
--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 4GB SSD 2GB SODIMM 16GB SDHC
Windows XP Home SP2 - 10400mAh
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:15:14 -0400, Ben Myers
<ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote:
>I can confirm that, except for the tiny speaker that emits beeps, the Dimension
>2400 mobo has no on-board speaker. With connectors both front and rear for
>audio in and out, I guess that the designers thoughr one was not needed. As to
>why the little speaker does not emit BIOS beeps, I haven't a clue, but I would
>never worry about it... Ben Myers
>
Thanks Ben for the vote of confidence. If I had more time, I'd try
to dig into it further but since it's not my pc and my sister in law
would like it back asap, it's not worth the trouble in her case (and
as you pointed out). I'm still impressed with the dim2400. After a
fresh install (XP) and some software, it zips right along. I didn't
even bother to see how much ram there was in it and now I just
disconnected everything so if I remember I'll check it at her house
but regardless it works nice (before all the evil hands get back on it
again).
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:04:47 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>In news:9rcn749itr6rt14m5epadcm3hlm34050no@4ax.com,
>Ben Myers typed on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:15:14 -0400:
>> I can confirm that, except for the tiny speaker that emits beeps, the
>> Dimension 2400 mobo has no on-board speaker. With connectors both
>> front and rear for audio in and out, I guess that the designers
>> thoughr one was not needed. As to why the little speaker does not
>> emit BIOS beeps, I haven't a clue, but I would never worry about
>> it... Ben Myers
>
>As far as I know, all IBM machines (including clones) has a PC speaker which
>is only good for beeps. Although MS Flight Simulator III (came out around
>1988 I think) did a so-so job making engine sounds from it.
>
>Remember PCs with sound cards were unheard of back in the 80's and very
>early 90's. So the only sounds you had was error beeps and that was it.
>Things has really changed since then. LOL
Everyone here in this thread agrees with you so I believe you <g>.
I can't get it to beep tho but I gave up on it because she (my sister
in law) won't use it anyway (she'll use external spkrs) so I don't
want to waste her time probing into this when she can use it now using
the ext. spkrs. I'm sure if I had more time, I'd find out but as Ben
pointed out, the beeps aren't that important. There more like a
diagnostic tool anyway.
If the evil hands get onto the computer again, remember you have two choices:
1. Get new in-laws. There are special upgrade programs for this, with liberal
trade-ins.
2. Charge them good money the next time.
Inform them of the choices when you take the system back to them, so there will
be no surprises in the future. If you fix a mess for free next time, you are
being taken advantage of and unreasonably.
I hate to sound a little bit like Ann Landers here, but... Ben Myers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:45:58 -0500, RnR <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:15:14 -0400, Ben Myers
><ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>I can confirm that, except for the tiny speaker that emits beeps, the Dimension
>>2400 mobo has no on-board speaker. With connectors both front and rear for
>>audio in and out, I guess that the designers thoughr one was not needed. As to
>>why the little speaker does not emit BIOS beeps, I haven't a clue, but I would
>>never worry about it... Ben Myers
>>
>
>Thanks Ben for the vote of confidence. If I had more time, I'd try
>to dig into it further but since it's not my pc and my sister in law
>would like it back asap, it's not worth the trouble in her case (and
>as you pointed out). I'm still impressed with the dim2400. After a
>fresh install (XP) and some software, it zips right along. I didn't
>even bother to see how much ram there was in it and now I just
>disconnected everything so if I remember I'll check it at her house
>but regardless it works nice (before all the evil hands get back on it
>again).
>
>Thanks Ben again.
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:59:49 -0400, Ben Myers
<ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote:
>If the evil hands get onto the computer again, remember you have two choices:
>
>1. Get new in-laws. There are special upgrade programs for this, with liberal
>trade-ins.
>2. Charge them good money the next time.
>
>Inform them of the choices when you take the system back to them, so there will
>be no surprises in the future. If you fix a mess for free next time, you are
>being taken advantage of and unreasonably.
>
>I hate to sound a little bit like Ann Landers here, but... Ben Myers
>
Wish I could charge but long story.
Any way I brought the pc back and plugged everything in and it worked
like a charm. For some reason I thought I had all the drivers but I
was missing her dell AIO 920 printer so I got that on line at her
house and installed it and then tested the printer and it worked fine.
I tested the speakers using the sample sounds in the control panel and
the external speakers worked fine. She was so grateful she said she
could get me a lot of her BP friends but I told her no. I told her I
didn't want any customers. I just want to help those I choose to
help. I'm just happy to be able to do it. IIt's my way of trying to
pay back the kindness some have given me.
And to try to answer you Ben, I used a Secure Zone in Acronis True
Image 10 with a password so I can hopefully restore from there the
next time which should make it easier for me (with fingers crossed).
In theory it's just a hidden partition with an image file that the OS
can't access but you know how murphy's law works. I've had things go
wrong before when in theory it should have worked so that's why I said
with fingers crossed. I guess I can always do what I did earlier
today if her pc gets messed up again (I hope).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RnR [mailto:rnrtexas@gmail.com]
> Posted At: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Dell 2400 ... any internal speaker?
> Subject: Re: Dell 2400 ... any internal speaker?
>
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:15:59 -0700 (PDT), "William R. Walsh"
> <wm_walsh@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi!
> >
> >There is an internal speaker, but it is used only for beeps. It's a
> >small black can shape on the motherboard. I think it's near the Intel
> >southbridge and clock battery.
> >
> >Check your device drivers and make sure the onboard sound is enabled
> >in setup. The sound on my Dim2400 worked immediately after installing
> >the drivers and hooking up speakers.
> >
> >William
>
>
> Thanks William. I've got the bios sound enabled and installed the
> right device driver but can't even get a beep thru the internal
> speaker so I'll probably wait till I can get the external speaker
> hooked up and see how that goes. Obviously I should get some beep
> thru the internal speaker but none so far. It's minor but it bugs me
> and I'll keep hammering it out till I get it. Appreciate the help!!
I don't think my 2400 has ever beeped in the 5 years I've owned it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BillW50 [mailto:BillW50@aol.kom]
> Posted At: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:05 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Dell 2400 ... any internal speaker?
> Subject: Re: Dell 2400 ... any internal speaker?
>
> In news:9rcn749itr6rt14m5epadcm3hlm34050no@4ax.com,
> Ben Myers typed on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:15:14 -0400:
> > I can confirm that, except for the tiny speaker that emits beeps,
the
> > Dimension 2400 mobo has no on-board speaker. With connectors both
> > front and rear for audio in and out, I guess that the designers
> > thoughr one was not needed. As to why the little speaker does not
> > emit BIOS beeps, I haven't a clue, but I would never worry about
> > it... Ben Myers
>
> As far as I know, all IBM machines (including clones) has a PC speaker
> which
> is only good for beeps. Although MS Flight Simulator III (came out
> around
> 1988 I think) did a so-so job making engine sounds from it.
>
> Remember PCs with sound cards were unheard of back in the 80's and
very
> early 90's. So the only sounds you had was error beeps and that was
it.
> Things has really changed since then. LOL
>
> --
> Bill
> Asus EEE PC 4GB SSD 2GB SODIMM 16GB SDHC
> Windows XP Home SP2 - 10400mAh
The Optiplex GX620, oddly, has an internal speaker that IS connected to
the sound card. It's tinny and almost impossible to hear, but it works.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RnR [mailto:rnrtexas@gmail.com]
> Posted At: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:56 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Dell 2400 ... any internal speaker?
> Subject: Dell 2400 ... any internal speaker?
>
> Does the dell 2400 have an internal speaker? I've got the case open
> on the front and side (sister inlaw's pc) and don't see any. After a
> clean XP install with device drivers, I get no sound and I have the
> speaker setting to "no" speakers thinking this is for the internal
> speaker if it exists. I may have to change that setting to external
> speakers and hook one up to test it or I have the wrong device driver
> to begin with. Not sure just yet. I'll try to grab an on line manual
> if I can find it at dell. thanks.
Might have a 'beep' speaker, but nothing connected to the soundcard.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RnR [mailto:rnrtexas@gmail.com]
>> Posted At: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: Dell 2400 ... any internal speaker?
>> Subject: Re: Dell 2400 ... any internal speaker?
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:15:59 -0700 (PDT), "William R. Walsh"
>> <wm_walsh@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi!
>> >
>> >There is an internal speaker, but it is used only for beeps. It's a
>> >small black can shape on the motherboard. I think it's near the Intel
>> >southbridge and clock battery.
>> >
>> >Check your device drivers and make sure the onboard sound is enabled
>> >in setup. The sound on my Dim2400 worked immediately after installing
>> >the drivers and hooking up speakers.
>> >
>> >William
>>
>>
>> Thanks William. I've got the bios sound enabled and installed the
>> right device driver but can't even get a beep thru the internal
>> speaker so I'll probably wait till I can get the external speaker
>> hooked up and see how that goes. Obviously I should get some beep
>> thru the internal speaker but none so far. It's minor but it bugs me
>> and I'll keep hammering it out till I get it. Appreciate the help!!
>
>I don't think my 2400 has ever beeped in the 5 years I've owned it.
Thanks Tom. I couldn't get it to beep either and for the sake of
practicality I gave up. But I did try for about 45 minutes at first.
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