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  #1  
Old 01-30-2008, 04:33 PM
MZB
 
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Default Battery suggestions

Well, you might recall my post about 7 weeks ago. I have a Dell Inspiron
2200. I had bought a replacement battery from Pacific Battery in February.

Recently, it was showing signs of deterioration (when I first got it, it
lasted 2.5-3 hours on a full charge -- when I posted here it was lasting
about an hour and clearly fading fast).

Anyway, Pacific has a 1-year warranty, full replacement. You have to fill
out a form online and a week later they send you a RA number. You have to
then send them the battery. They receive the battery in a week, take a week
to analyze it, and then hopefully send you a new battery (it takes another
week).

Anyway, I've gone through the process and a shipment from Pacific is due
later today. I'm assuming it's the replacement battery.

Anyway, I gave that background just to fill you in on what transpired. It
looks like Pacific is a solid company to deal with but I'd rather a
better/quicker replacement policy. Still,. it's a pretty good policy that
they totally replace the battery.

Now for my question: what's the best way to deal with the new battery?
Obviously, I place it in my laptop. Should I charge it extra long? Should I
run it until it is completely discharged a few times? In other words, is
there anything special I should do?

Mel


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Old 01-30-2008, 06:06 PM
PDR
 
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"MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net> wrote in message
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> Now for my question: what's the best way to deal with the new battery?
> Obviously, I place it in my laptop. Should I charge it extra long? Should
> I run it until it is completely discharged a few times? In other words, is
> there anything special I should do?


If it's a NiMH battery then you should give it one long charge period to
achieve the full "forming" charge (15-20 hours), and then make a habit of
running it down to as near empty as you can at least 2-3 times a week - NiMH
batteries don't like being "float charged" and the deep discharges reallyu
extend their life.

But NiMH packs in laptops are rather rare these days, the majority being
Lithium (Lithium-Ion, Lithium-Polymer or Lithium-Phosphate) these days. The
lithium cells just need to be fully charged (usually around 90 minutes from
empty, but the charging systems vary so check your laptop instructions) and
then used. The laptop's battery management circuits will ensure the cells
aren't over-discharged, and lithium cells don't really care about
partial-vs-deep discharging, so the use pattern doesn't really affect them.

The thing that DOES affect the life of these cells is temperature. Try to
avoid exposing them to temperatures below 10degC and above 40degC. The
"catch" is that it's not unusual to find that the cells get quite warm when
a laptop is sitting in a docking station or on a desk usuing mains power,
largely because the battery bay cooling is inadequate when the laptop is sat
on a smooth surface like a desk. If you make a habit of using the thing on
mains power for extended periods you can significantly extend the battery
life by removing the battery once the mains power is connected. Other than
that, you just take the life it gives you!

PDR


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  #3  
Old 01-30-2008, 06:14 PM
MZB
 
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Default Re: Battery suggestions

OK -- yes, it is Lithium-Ion.

So I just charge it up and go with it.

Mel
"PDR" <peter.rieden@nospam.baesystems.com> wrote in message
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>
> "MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net> wrote in message
> news:XF1oj.30$EF7.13@newsfe06.lga...
>> Now for my question: what's the best way to deal with the new battery?
>> Obviously, I place it in my laptop. Should I charge it extra long? Should
>> I run it until it is completely discharged a few times? In other words,
>> is there anything special I should do?

>
> If it's a NiMH battery then you should give it one long charge period to
> achieve the full "forming" charge (15-20 hours), and then make a habit of
> running it down to as near empty as you can at least 2-3 times a week -
> NiMH batteries don't like being "float charged" and the deep discharges
> reallyu extend their life.
>
> But NiMH packs in laptops are rather rare these days, the majority being
> Lithium (Lithium-Ion, Lithium-Polymer or Lithium-Phosphate) these days.
> The lithium cells just need to be fully charged (usually around 90 minutes
> from empty, but the charging systems vary so check your laptop
> instructions) and then used. The laptop's battery management circuits will
> ensure the cells aren't over-discharged, and lithium cells don't really
> care about partial-vs-deep discharging, so the use pattern doesn't really
> affect them.
>
> The thing that DOES affect the life of these cells is temperature. Try to
> avoid exposing them to temperatures below 10degC and above 40degC. The
> "catch" is that it's not unusual to find that the cells get quite warm
> when a laptop is sitting in a docking station or on a desk usuing mains
> power, largely because the battery bay cooling is inadequate when the
> laptop is sat on a smooth surface like a desk. If you make a habit of
> using the thing on mains power for extended periods you can significantly
> extend the battery life by removing the battery once the mains power is
> connected. Other than that, you just take the life it gives you!
>
> PDR
>



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  #4  
Old 01-30-2008, 06:15 PM
RnR
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Battery suggestions

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:33:59 -0500, "MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net>
wrote:

>Well, you might recall my post about 7 weeks ago. I have a Dell Inspiron
>2200. I had bought a replacement battery from Pacific Battery in February.
>
>Recently, it was showing signs of deterioration (when I first got it, it
>lasted 2.5-3 hours on a full charge -- when I posted here it was lasting
>about an hour and clearly fading fast).
>
>Anyway, Pacific has a 1-year warranty, full replacement. You have to fill
>out a form online and a week later they send you a RA number. You have to
>then send them the battery. They receive the battery in a week, take a week
>to analyze it, and then hopefully send you a new battery (it takes another
>week).
>
>Anyway, I've gone through the process and a shipment from Pacific is due
>later today. I'm assuming it's the replacement battery.
>
>Anyway, I gave that background just to fill you in on what transpired. It
>looks like Pacific is a solid company to deal with but I'd rather a
>better/quicker replacement policy. Still,. it's a pretty good policy that
>they totally replace the battery.
>
>Now for my question: what's the best way to deal with the new battery?
>Obviously, I place it in my laptop. Should I charge it extra long? Should I
>run it until it is completely discharged a few times? In other words, is
>there anything special I should do?
>
>Mel
>


Thanks Mel for educating me how Pacific Battery works on returns. I
too will have to buy a battery soon. If I recall, they had a write up
on how the batteries deteriorate as well as why one should be leary
buying from the competitors. I

My advice now based on how mine has deteriorated is now to charge it
up and remove it when you don't need it. I think they deteriorate
faster when in the laptop and the laptop is plugged in. The only
exception to this might be my daughter as she has almost the identical
laptop (and age) and she has about twice as much battery life as I
do?? I can't explain that??

Go back to Pacific's web site. I think they have some good info about
these batteries that will educate you tho it may not answer your
question directly.
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  #5  
Old 01-30-2008, 07:36 PM
MZB
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Battery suggestions

Of course your daughter has about twice as much battery life than you do.
She is probably half your age!! <G>

At this juncture, I would highly recommend Pacific. I mean, that's pretty
good to do a complete replacement after 10 months of use, rather than a
pro-rated deal, which would save me very little. Now, I will reserve FINAL
judgement until what I THINK is going to be a replacement battery arrives
(and until I make sure it's working well). They sent it UPS and it left the
UPS station at 5:00 AM for delivery. That station is 30 miles away. I guess
they don't get to my neighborhood until late afternoon (it's 2:35 right
now).

Regarding extending battery life. From what I read, it is a good idea to
remove the battery when running on AC, as the heat is not good for it. But,
OTOH, I have a battery for convenience. I use my laptop everywhere in my
house. I would find it a pain to constantly remove the battery, put it back,
etc. every time (or most times) when I do use AC. So, it's a tradeoff.
Fortunately, I don't have to pinch pennies, so I am willing to pay a bit
more for this convenience. Although this time, by utilizing the warranty, I
haven't paid anything!

Incidentally, I know a lot of folks on this newsgroup really rag about the
Inspiron 2200. But, I have to say it's been a GREAT laptop. Very few
problems. When I compare it to my work laptop, a Latitude, I can see that
the Latitude appears to be sturdier. But for my home use and occassional
travel, this 2200 has held up well.

Well, on another matter, speaking of holding up, I hope I do. I have to
start the prep soon for a colonoscopy tomorrow. I've had these tests before,
but it is always scary!


Mel





"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:n3f1q3tcl57cfa3fop3efsm7g0bqslef63@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:33:59 -0500, "MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Well, you might recall my post about 7 weeks ago. I have a Dell Inspiron
>>2200. I had bought a replacement battery from Pacific Battery in February.
>>
>>Recently, it was showing signs of deterioration (when I first got it, it
>>lasted 2.5-3 hours on a full charge -- when I posted here it was lasting
>>about an hour and clearly fading fast).
>>
>>Anyway, Pacific has a 1-year warranty, full replacement. You have to fill
>>out a form online and a week later they send you a RA number. You have to
>>then send them the battery. They receive the battery in a week, take a
>>week
>>to analyze it, and then hopefully send you a new battery (it takes another
>>week).
>>
>>Anyway, I've gone through the process and a shipment from Pacific is due
>>later today. I'm assuming it's the replacement battery.
>>
>>Anyway, I gave that background just to fill you in on what transpired. It
>>looks like Pacific is a solid company to deal with but I'd rather a
>>better/quicker replacement policy. Still,. it's a pretty good policy that
>>they totally replace the battery.
>>
>>Now for my question: what's the best way to deal with the new battery?
>>Obviously, I place it in my laptop. Should I charge it extra long? Should
>>I
>>run it until it is completely discharged a few times? In other words, is
>>there anything special I should do?
>>
>>Mel
>>

>
> Thanks Mel for educating me how Pacific Battery works on returns. I
> too will have to buy a battery soon. If I recall, they had a write up
> on how the batteries deteriorate as well as why one should be leary
> buying from the competitors. I
>
> My advice now based on how mine has deteriorated is now to charge it
> up and remove it when you don't need it. I think they deteriorate
> faster when in the laptop and the laptop is plugged in. The only
> exception to this might be my daughter as she has almost the identical
> laptop (and age) and she has about twice as much battery life as I
> do?? I can't explain that??
>
> Go back to Pacific's web site. I think they have some good info about
> these batteries that will educate you tho it may not answer your
> question directly.



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  #6  
Old 01-30-2008, 08:27 PM
RnR
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Battery suggestions

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:36:26 -0500, "MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net>
wrote:

>Of course your daughter has about twice as much battery life than you do.
>She is probably half your age!! <G>
>
>At this juncture, I would highly recommend Pacific. I mean, that's pretty
>good to do a complete replacement after 10 months of use, rather than a
>pro-rated deal, which would save me very little. Now, I will reserve FINAL
>judgement until what I THINK is going to be a replacement battery arrives
>(and until I make sure it's working well). They sent it UPS and it left the
>UPS station at 5:00 AM for delivery. That station is 30 miles away. I guess
>they don't get to my neighborhood until late afternoon (it's 2:35 right
>now).
>
>Regarding extending battery life. From what I read, it is a good idea to
>remove the battery when running on AC, as the heat is not good for it. But,
>OTOH, I have a battery for convenience. I use my laptop everywhere in my
>house. I would find it a pain to constantly remove the battery, put it back,
>etc. every time (or most times) when I do use AC. So, it's a tradeoff.
>Fortunately, I don't have to pinch pennies, so I am willing to pay a bit
>more for this convenience. Although this time, by utilizing the warranty, I
>haven't paid anything!
>
>Incidentally, I know a lot of folks on this newsgroup really rag about the
>Inspiron 2200. But, I have to say it's been a GREAT laptop. Very few
>problems. When I compare it to my work laptop, a Latitude, I can see that
>the Latitude appears to be sturdier. But for my home use and occassional
>travel, this 2200 has held up well.
>
>Well, on another matter, speaking of holding up, I hope I do. I have to
>start the prep soon for a colonoscopy tomorrow. I've had these tests before,
>but it is always scary!
>
>
>Mel
>
>



Guess the laptop battery is the least of your problem now. Last time
I went to the doctor, he recommended blood tests and a colonoscopy
too. I know the colonoscopy isn't pleasant from what the doctor told
me after I questioned it and then read stuff on the net. I think I
will pass on this and take my chances . I think I already know
what will kill me (call it some logic and some premonition) but I
don't know when. I'm in good health so far but I think of my health
as a time bomb ticking. I don't know how long/short the fuse is
before it goes off. Kind of a depressing topic so let me stop.
Good luck Mel and maybe you can email me how painful or describe the
process to me (without getting personal).
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:01 PM
MZB
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Battery suggestions

RNR:

You've said a few things that I find disturbing. You sound so fatalistic
about your health which is very foolish in today's society.
So, I'll go off topic and get personal:

Over the years I've had intestinal problems that have required
colonoscopies.

My last one was 6 years ago. At that time, I had a bm that was FULL of
blood. I mean it was SCARY. But it was very red which indicates bleeding
lower down. That is generally a better sign as there are lots of things
lower down that can cause bleeding (like hemmies, fissures, polyps, etc) and
of course the thing we fear most: cancer.
So, I had to have a colonoscopy and they did not find the source of the
bleeding. More importantly, they did not find anything scary. As it turned
out, it was a one-time thing. It never occurred again-- UNTIL 2 WEEKS AGO.
The exact same thing happened. So, here we are. I admit I am scared to
death. But, again, especially given the previous scenario, the odds are
pretty good that it won't be anything. In fact, it hasn't happened again.
Now, if it happens as a result of the prep., I have to go to the ER. So
that's my worry for tonight.

Regarding the colonoscopy, the prep is MISERABLE. You drink this crap--lots
of it. You then go and go and go -- almost all liquid. Your butt gets sore.

The procedure itself (which will happen tomorrow) is nothing. They sedate
you.

Anyway, I don't want to be a spoil sport. But, really, colon cancer is quite
curable when found early enough. If the doc. suggests a colonoscopy, you
should bite the bullet and do it.

Hope I wasn't too graphic. But, as you said, that certainly transcends a
laptop battery!

Mel





"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5nm1q3hjma51anf3iaqcusjaje7gb0lti3@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:36:26 -0500, "MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Of course your daughter has about twice as much battery life than you do.
>>She is probably half your age!! <G>
>>
>>At this juncture, I would highly recommend Pacific. I mean, that's pretty
>>good to do a complete replacement after 10 months of use, rather than a
>>pro-rated deal, which would save me very little. Now, I will reserve FINAL
>>judgement until what I THINK is going to be a replacement battery arrives
>>(and until I make sure it's working well). They sent it UPS and it left
>>the
>>UPS station at 5:00 AM for delivery. That station is 30 miles away. I
>>guess
>>they don't get to my neighborhood until late afternoon (it's 2:35 right
>>now).
>>
>>Regarding extending battery life. From what I read, it is a good idea to
>>remove the battery when running on AC, as the heat is not good for it.
>>But,
>>OTOH, I have a battery for convenience. I use my laptop everywhere in my
>>house. I would find it a pain to constantly remove the battery, put it
>>back,
>>etc. every time (or most times) when I do use AC. So, it's a tradeoff.
>>Fortunately, I don't have to pinch pennies, so I am willing to pay a bit
>>more for this convenience. Although this time, by utilizing the warranty,
>>I
>>haven't paid anything!
>>
>>Incidentally, I know a lot of folks on this newsgroup really rag about the
>>Inspiron 2200. But, I have to say it's been a GREAT laptop. Very few
>>problems. When I compare it to my work laptop, a Latitude, I can see that
>>the Latitude appears to be sturdier. But for my home use and occassional
>>travel, this 2200 has held up well.
>>
>>Well, on another matter, speaking of holding up, I hope I do. I have to
>>start the prep soon for a colonoscopy tomorrow. I've had these tests
>>before,
>>but it is always scary!
>>
>>
>>Mel
>>
>>

>
>
> Guess the laptop battery is the least of your problem now. Last time
> I went to the doctor, he recommended blood tests and a colonoscopy
> too. I know the colonoscopy isn't pleasant from what the doctor told
> me after I questioned it and then read stuff on the net. I think I
> will pass on this and take my chances . I think I already know
> what will kill me (call it some logic and some premonition) but I
> don't know when. I'm in good health so far but I think of my health
> as a time bomb ticking. I don't know how long/short the fuse is
> before it goes off. Kind of a depressing topic so let me stop.
> Good luck Mel and maybe you can email me how painful or describe the
> process to me (without getting personal).



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Old 01-30-2008, 09:49 PM
MZB
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Battery suggestions

BTW, still waiting for that battery

Mel
"MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net> wrote in message
news:2B5oj.59$Xi2.17@newsfe02.lga...
> RNR:
>
> You've said a few things that I find disturbing. You sound so fatalistic
> about your health which is very foolish in today's society.
> So, I'll go off topic and get personal:
>
> Over the years I've had intestinal problems that have required
> colonoscopies.
>
> My last one was 6 years ago. At that time, I had a bm that was FULL of
> blood. I mean it was SCARY. But it was very red which indicates bleeding
> lower down. That is generally a better sign as there are lots of things
> lower down that can cause bleeding (like hemmies, fissures, polyps, etc)
> and of course the thing we fear most: cancer.
> So, I had to have a colonoscopy and they did not find the source of the
> bleeding. More importantly, they did not find anything scary. As it turned
> out, it was a one-time thing. It never occurred again-- UNTIL 2 WEEKS AGO.
> The exact same thing happened. So, here we are. I admit I am scared to
> death. But, again, especially given the previous scenario, the odds are
> pretty good that it won't be anything. In fact, it hasn't happened again.
> Now, if it happens as a result of the prep., I have to go to the ER. So
> that's my worry for tonight.
>
> Regarding the colonoscopy, the prep is MISERABLE. You drink this
> crap--lots of it. You then go and go and go -- almost all liquid. Your
> butt gets sore.
>
> The procedure itself (which will happen tomorrow) is nothing. They sedate
> you.
>
> Anyway, I don't want to be a spoil sport. But, really, colon cancer is
> quite curable when found early enough. If the doc. suggests a colonoscopy,
> you should bite the bullet and do it.
>
> Hope I wasn't too graphic. But, as you said, that certainly transcends a
> laptop battery!
>
> Mel
>
>
>
>
>
> "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5nm1q3hjma51anf3iaqcusjaje7gb0lti3@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:36:26 -0500, "MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Of course your daughter has about twice as much battery life than you do.
>>>She is probably half your age!! <G>
>>>
>>>At this juncture, I would highly recommend Pacific. I mean, that's pretty
>>>good to do a complete replacement after 10 months of use, rather than a
>>>pro-rated deal, which would save me very little. Now, I will reserve
>>>FINAL
>>>judgement until what I THINK is going to be a replacement battery arrives
>>>(and until I make sure it's working well). They sent it UPS and it left
>>>the
>>>UPS station at 5:00 AM for delivery. That station is 30 miles away. I
>>>guess
>>>they don't get to my neighborhood until late afternoon (it's 2:35 right
>>>now).
>>>
>>>Regarding extending battery life. From what I read, it is a good idea to
>>>remove the battery when running on AC, as the heat is not good for it.
>>>But,
>>>OTOH, I have a battery for convenience. I use my laptop everywhere in my
>>>house. I would find it a pain to constantly remove the battery, put it
>>>back,
>>>etc. every time (or most times) when I do use AC. So, it's a tradeoff.
>>>Fortunately, I don't have to pinch pennies, so I am willing to pay a bit
>>>more for this convenience. Although this time, by utilizing the warranty,
>>>I
>>>haven't paid anything!
>>>
>>>Incidentally, I know a lot of folks on this newsgroup really rag about
>>>the
>>>Inspiron 2200. But, I have to say it's been a GREAT laptop. Very few
>>>problems. When I compare it to my work laptop, a Latitude, I can see that
>>>the Latitude appears to be sturdier. But for my home use and occassional
>>>travel, this 2200 has held up well.
>>>
>>>Well, on another matter, speaking of holding up, I hope I do. I have to
>>>start the prep soon for a colonoscopy tomorrow. I've had these tests
>>>before,
>>>but it is always scary!
>>>
>>>
>>>Mel
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Guess the laptop battery is the least of your problem now. Last time
>> I went to the doctor, he recommended blood tests and a colonoscopy
>> too. I know the colonoscopy isn't pleasant from what the doctor told
>> me after I questioned it and then read stuff on the net. I think I
>> will pass on this and take my chances . I think I already know
>> what will kill me (call it some logic and some premonition) but I
>> don't know when. I'm in good health so far but I think of my health
>> as a time bomb ticking. I don't know how long/short the fuse is
>> before it goes off. Kind of a depressing topic so let me stop.
>> Good luck Mel and maybe you can email me how painful or describe the
>> process to me (without getting personal).

>
>



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Old 01-30-2008, 09:59 PM
RnR
 
Posts: n/a
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:01:49 -0500, "MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net>
wrote:

>RNR:
>
>You've said a few things that I find disturbing. You sound so fatalistic
>about your health which is very foolish in today's society.
>So, I'll go off topic and get personal:
>
>Over the years I've had intestinal problems that have required
>colonoscopies.
>
>My last one was 6 years ago. At that time, I had a bm that was FULL of
>blood. I mean it was SCARY. But it was very red which indicates bleeding
>lower down. That is generally a better sign as there are lots of things
>lower down that can cause bleeding (like hemmies, fissures, polyps, etc) and
>of course the thing we fear most: cancer.
>So, I had to have a colonoscopy and they did not find the source of the
>bleeding. More importantly, they did not find anything scary. As it turned
>out, it was a one-time thing. It never occurred again-- UNTIL 2 WEEKS AGO.
>The exact same thing happened. So, here we are. I admit I am scared to
>death. But, again, especially given the previous scenario, the odds are
>pretty good that it won't be anything. In fact, it hasn't happened again.
>Now, if it happens as a result of the prep., I have to go to the ER. So
>that's my worry for tonight.
>
>Regarding the colonoscopy, the prep is MISERABLE. You drink this crap--lots
>of it. You then go and go and go -- almost all liquid. Your butt gets sore.
>
>The procedure itself (which will happen tomorrow) is nothing. They sedate
>you.
>
>Anyway, I don't want to be a spoil sport. But, really, colon cancer is quite
>curable when found early enough. If the doc. suggests a colonoscopy, you
>should bite the bullet and do it.
>
>Hope I wasn't too graphic. But, as you said, that certainly transcends a
>laptop battery!
>
>Mel
>
>



You are but no problem. I'm not a religious person but I will say a
prayer for your well being even tho I don't know you Mel. I consider
you and others here friends and I don't like to see my friends,
relatives or family members hurt or ill. I'm not the best expressing
myself so forgive me but I'll just say I really hope it goes well or
better than expected.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:25 PM
MZB
 
Posts: n/a
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Actually, I could have been even more graphic... but...

I am NOT religious at all. Straying a bit once more, I do have truly
religious friends and relatives and I envy the inner peace it provides. My
brother in law did have colon cancer that metasticized to his liver. Through
it all he was not the least bit afraid. He even took a planned vacation
between tests, etc. But he was still smart enough to go to Mayo Clinic and
he had successful surgery. He never bothered with preventive chemo or
radiation and he is cancer-free (for past 1 years). I have been impressed
with the calmness that true believing gives.

Me, I just don't believe in fairy tales, but that's just me.

Unfortunately, that does make getting older even tougher.

I've strayed to much in this post.

YES, I absolutely like and respect the posters here. On RARE occassions we
get a little fight or flame war, but they are miniscule.

Everyone here is so helpful.

What's also nice is you can be a bit off topic and you get help.

This is a nice family.

I'll say goodbye because UPS is at the door!

Mel

"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:01:49 -0500, "MZB" <moo@noway.prudigy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>RNR:
>>
>>You've said a few things that I find disturbing. You sound so fatalistic
>>about your health which is very foolish in today's society.
>>So, I'll go off topic and get personal:
>>
>>Over the years I've had intestinal problems that have required
>>colonoscopies.
>>
>>My last one was 6 years ago. At that time, I had a bm that was FULL of
>>blood. I mean it was SCARY. But it was very red which indicates bleeding
>>lower down. That is generally a better sign as there are lots of things
>>lower down that can cause bleeding (like hemmies, fissures, polyps, etc)
>>and
>>of course the thing we fear most: cancer.
>>So, I had to have a colonoscopy and they did not find the source of the
>>bleeding. More importantly, they did not find anything scary. As it turned
>>out, it was a one-time thing. It never occurred again-- UNTIL 2 WEEKS AGO.
>>The exact same thing happened. So, here we are. I admit I am scared to
>>death. But, again, especially given the previous scenario, the odds are
>>pretty good that it won't be anything. In fact, it hasn't happened again.
>>Now, if it happens as a result of the prep., I have to go to the ER. So
>>that's my worry for tonight.
>>
>>Regarding the colonoscopy, the prep is MISERABLE. You drink this
>>crap--lots
>>of it. You then go and go and go -- almost all liquid. Your butt gets
>>sore.
>>
>>The procedure itself (which will happen tomorrow) is nothing. They sedate
>>you.
>>
>>Anyway, I don't want to be a spoil sport. But, really, colon cancer is
>>quite
>>curable when found early enough. If the doc. suggests a colonoscopy, you
>>should bite the bullet and do it.
>>
>>Hope I wasn't too graphic. But, as you said, that certainly transcends a
>>laptop battery!
>>
>>Mel
>>
>>

>
>
> You are but no problem. I'm not a religious person but I will say a
> prayer for your well being even tho I don't know you Mel. I consider
> you and others here friends and I don't like to see my friends,
> relatives or family members hurt or ill. I'm not the best expressing
> myself so forgive me but I'll just say I really hope it goes well or
> better than expected.



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