On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:03:32 -0500, "Kevin Childers"
<kchilder@mail.win.org> wrote:
>
>"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9e5k44pp0diuc4g3cej2kvf371vi746d11@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:59:45 -0400, Tony Harding <ToHard@nowhere.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>RnR wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:59:00 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:50:45 -0500, RnR <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:18:28 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all who replied. I should have said it's a One Touch II
>>>>>>> (250GB). As usual, this group has pointed me in the right direction.
>>>>>>> If I am able to salvage the data, I'll post what I ended up doing. I
>>>>>>> am going to try to find a Maxtor utility first, as suggested, and do
>>>>>>> some more Googling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fortunately, the drive was "expendable" as far as the data I have on
>>>>>>> it, otherwise I would have had a backup. I think it might have had
>>>>>>> country music on it <jk>. Actually, it had a lot of music that I
>>>>>>> offloaded from iTunes that I would not likely want to listen to, old
>>>>>>> versions of installs, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Journey, I hope I'm wrong but I think the drive is toast so you may
>>>>>> have trouble salvaging data from it. That said, for a last resort,
>>>>>> try what some people recommend... freeze the drive and then try it.
>>>>>> I have no idea if this works but please keep us posted what works (if
>>>>>> any) for you. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ps-- I hope I'm wrong and you are able to salvage from it.
>>>>> Thanks, I remember hearing about freezing drives. I am going to try a
>>>>> utility from Maxtor if I can find one from its site (Maxtor's owned by
>>>>> Seagate now I think so maybe it is over there), there is a program
>>>>> called GetDataBackNTFS that I will try too. If nothing else works,
>>>>> I'll try freezing the drive. If that doesn't work, I'll apply a light
>>>>> coat of olive oil to each side, lightly salt and use fresh ground
>>>>> pepper, sear each side using a cast iron frying pan, and finish it off
>>>>> in the broiler until it's just the right shade of pink.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree... might as well try the HD mfgr utilities first. Maybe just
>>>> put some bbq sauce on it and bbq it when the weather gets nice <g>.
>>>
>>>Hm, sounds like a nice touch, but I drill 3-4 holes thru the platters
>>>from the bottom (which are quite soft) and pitch the drive.
>>
>>
>> Actually the last 2 drives that failed on me, I took apart and kept
>> the magnets (real strong) and scratched the platters and then broke
>> down the hard drive cases into different garbage bags on different
>> days to get rid of it without it being able to be resurrected. I
>> know I went a bit overboard as I didn't have anything so confidential
>> but at least I got good magnets out of it <g>. I don't know if I'll
>> do it again but it wasn't that hard to do.
>
>Magnets are cool for so many things, almost strong enought pin phone book up
>on the fridge. Sold the cases as scrap metal. Platters make good wind
>chimes. According to the US federal governmental security types, there a
>several good programs for erasing disk for unsecured re-use or resale.
>Saddens me to say I've seen more crate load of 100(+) Gb drives with pick
>axe holes punched through them, because some one thought that was a secure
>way to destroy them. BTW it's not 100%, but it does stop the casually
>curious.
>
Correct Kevin, I read the same. Actually even the scratches aren't
any better but as you said, it would stop most people except the well
trained / determined ones.
BTW, I use the magnets for my refrig door (notes/papers) and you have
to use a bit of strength to pull them off but work well for that task.
On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:18:28 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>Thanks to all who replied. I should have said it's a One Touch II
>(250GB). As usual, this group has pointed me in the right direction.
>If I am able to salvage the data, I'll post what I ended up doing. I
>am going to try to find a Maxtor utility first, as suggested, and do
>some more Googling.
I was able to recover most of the data on the drive using a utility
program called:
GetDataBack for NTFS
I have an older version and don't have a link but it could be found
I'm sure by Googling.
I was able to recover all files except for the ones on the bad sectors
-- the recovery was pretty thorough. Recovered data was moved to a
different volume.
Now I need to find out how to destroy the hard disk so none of the
data can be copied off it.
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:18:42 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:18:28 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks to all who replied. I should have said it's a One Touch II
>>(250GB). As usual, this group has pointed me in the right direction.
>>If I am able to salvage the data, I'll post what I ended up doing. I
>>am going to try to find a Maxtor utility first, as suggested, and do
>>some more Googling.
>
>I was able to recover most of the data on the drive using a utility
>program called:
>
>GetDataBack for NTFS
>
>I have an older version and don't have a link but it could be found
>I'm sure by Googling.
>
>I was able to recover all files except for the ones on the bad sectors
>-- the recovery was pretty thorough. Recovered data was moved to a
>different volume.
>
>Now I need to find out how to destroy the hard disk so none of the
>data can be copied off it.
Likely the best thing to do is get software (I've seen lots) to over
write you old data making is useless to most. It's not a guaranteed
method but for most it should be more than adequate. You can take the
drive apart to make it even harder to recover but again no guarantee
but you do get some great magnets out of it <g>. Another thought I
just had but it is unproven, is to encrypt the whole drive.
Drive over it with your car? Take a sledge hammer to it? Drill a large hole
in it with an electric drill (used by Raytheon a number of years ago)?
.... Ben Myers
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:18:42 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:18:28 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks to all who replied. I should have said it's a One Touch II
>>(250GB). As usual, this group has pointed me in the right direction.
>>If I am able to salvage the data, I'll post what I ended up doing. I
>>am going to try to find a Maxtor utility first, as suggested, and do
>>some more Googling.
>
>I was able to recover most of the data on the drive using a utility
>program called:
>
>GetDataBack for NTFS
>
>I have an older version and don't have a link but it could be found
>I'm sure by Googling.
>
>I was able to recover all files except for the ones on the bad sectors
>-- the recovery was pretty thorough. Recovered data was moved to a
>different volume.
>
>Now I need to find out how to destroy the hard disk so none of the
>data can be copied off it.
Ben Myers wrote:
> Drive over it with your car? Take a sledge hammer to it? Drill a large hole
> in it with an electric drill (used by Raytheon a number of years ago)?
I drill 4-5 holes up from the bottom (metal's soft there) thru all the
platters (it's easy to tell when you move from platter to platter). I'm
sure the pros can recover a lot of the date, but I'm not trying to
thwart them after all.
I also smash the electronics, trash the connectors, etc., anything to
make it difficult for the casual thief.
I was thinking tomorrow morning I'd throw it in my slow cooker and
cover it with cream of mushroom soup. By the time I get home it
should be nice and tender, and I could spoon it over rice and kill two
birds with one stone ..... data will be destroyed by the processes of
consumption, and, hopefully, assimiliation.
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:48:48 -0400, Ben Myers
<ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote:
>Drive over it with your car? Take a sledge hammer to it? Drill a large hole
>in it with an electric drill (used by Raytheon a number of years ago)?
>
>... Ben Myers
>
>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:18:42 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:18:28 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks to all who replied. I should have said it's a One Touch II
>>>(250GB). As usual, this group has pointed me in the right direction.
>>>If I am able to salvage the data, I'll post what I ended up doing. I
>>>am going to try to find a Maxtor utility first, as suggested, and do
>>>some more Googling.
>>
>>I was able to recover most of the data on the drive using a utility
>>program called:
>>
>>GetDataBack for NTFS
>>
>>I have an older version and don't have a link but it could be found
>>I'm sure by Googling.
>>
>>I was able to recover all files except for the ones on the bad sectors
>>-- the recovery was pretty thorough. Recovered data was moved to a
>>different volume.
>>
>>Now I need to find out how to destroy the hard disk so none of the
>>data can be copied off it.
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:28:19 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>I was thinking tomorrow morning I'd throw it in my slow cooker and
>cover it with cream of mushroom soup. By the time I get home it
>should be nice and tender, and I could spoon it over rice and kill two
>birds with one stone ..... data will be destroyed by the processes of
>consumption, and, hopefully, assimiliation.
>
If you decide not to make a meal of it, here is what google comes up
with (take your pick) ... http://tinyurl.com/5k58uu .
There was an article in PCMag or one of those where the OnTrack folks
recovered most of the data from a disk that had a bullet hole in it.
"For Ontrack, it was just another week at the office. Apparently the
company recovers data from fire-damaged drives all the time. And
that's one of the easier tasks. In 2003, Ontrack engineers
successfully recovered files from a drive that arrived in Minnesota
with a bullet hole in it. A few weeks later, they salvaged a disk that
had spent three months at the bottom of a lake."
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:48:48 -0400, Ben Myers
<ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote:
>Drive over it with your car? Take a sledge hammer to it? Drill a large hole
>in it with an electric drill (used by Raytheon a number of years ago)?
>
>... Ben Myers
>
>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:18:42 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:18:28 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks to all who replied. I should have said it's a One Touch II
>>>(250GB). As usual, this group has pointed me in the right direction.
>>>If I am able to salvage the data, I'll post what I ended up doing. I
>>>am going to try to find a Maxtor utility first, as suggested, and do
>>>some more Googling.
>>
>>I was able to recover most of the data on the drive using a utility
>>program called:
>>
>>GetDataBack for NTFS
>>
>>I have an older version and don't have a link but it could be found
>>I'm sure by Googling.
>>
>>I was able to recover all files except for the ones on the bad sectors
>>-- the recovery was pretty thorough. Recovered data was moved to a
>>different volume.
>>
>>Now I need to find out how to destroy the hard disk so none of the
>>data can be copied off it.
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:00:52 -0500, RnR <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:28:19 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>
>>I was thinking tomorrow morning I'd throw it in my slow cooker and
>>cover it with cream of mushroom soup. By the time I get home it
>>should be nice and tender, and I could spoon it over rice and kill two
>>birds with one stone ..... data will be destroyed by the processes of
>>consumption, and, hopefully, assimiliation.
>>
>
>
>If you decide not to make a meal of it, here is what google comes up
>with (take your pick) ... http://tinyurl.com/5k58uu .
Cool, thanks! I never thought about putting Google search results in
a Tiny URL address -- great idea, learned something today! I'll check
out all the results. There is some confidential data on the drive so
I want to do a good job destroying the data. There's almost a zero
chance someone would try to retrieve anything but I need to do it for
my peace of mind.
Well, then, disassemble the drive, remove the platters and smash them to bits
with a sledge hammer. It all depends on how paranoid one can be. With the
Department of Homeland Security on the loose, one cannot be too paranoid... Ben
Myers
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:33:23 -0400, Michael Arm <marm@pobox.com> wrote:
>There was an article in PCMag or one of those where the OnTrack folks
>recovered most of the data from a disk that had a bullet hole in it.
>
>"For Ontrack, it was just another week at the office. Apparently the
>company recovers data from fire-damaged drives all the time. And
>that's one of the easier tasks. In 2003, Ontrack engineers
>successfully recovered files from a drive that arrived in Minnesota
>with a bullet hole in it. A few weeks later, they salvaged a disk that
>had spent three months at the bottom of a lake."
>
>http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1911132,00.asp for the full
>article
>
>Mike
>
>On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:48:48 -0400, Ben Myers
><ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>Drive over it with your car? Take a sledge hammer to it? Drill a large hole
>>in it with an electric drill (used by Raytheon a number of years ago)?
>>
>>... Ben Myers
>>
>>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:18:42 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:18:28 -0500, journey <journey@merr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks to all who replied. I should have said it's a One Touch II
>>>>(250GB). As usual, this group has pointed me in the right direction.
>>>>If I am able to salvage the data, I'll post what I ended up doing. I
>>>>am going to try to find a Maxtor utility first, as suggested, and do
>>>>some more Googling.
>>>
>>>I was able to recover most of the data on the drive using a utility
>>>program called:
>>>
>>>GetDataBack for NTFS
>>>
>>>I have an older version and don't have a link but it could be found
>>>I'm sure by Googling.
>>>
>>>I was able to recover all files except for the ones on the bad sectors
>>>-- the recovery was pretty thorough. Recovered data was moved to a
>>>different volume.
>>>
>>>Now I need to find out how to destroy the hard disk so none of the
>>>data can be copied off it.
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