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Old 10-01-2007, 06:05 PM
Christopher Muto
 
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Default Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade

Does anyone know of alternatives to Powerleap Pentium 4 processor upgrades?
I know that generally processor upgrades just don't make sense these days,
but we have an Dimension 2400 with 2.4Ghz/533/512kb Northwood that could be
upgraded to a 3.2Ghz/533/1mb Prescott with the use of a Powerleap processor
(adapter and processor combined). The cost is high, but not having to
reload the machine is even more costly and something that we are trying to
delay (don't ask, it is really boring).
Powerleap hasn't responded to emails and they no longer have telephone
customer service. Clearly processor upgrades are not as popular as they
used to be. Any alternative vendors or recommendations greatly appreciated.
Thank you.


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Old 10-01-2007, 06:24 PM
S.Lewis
 
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Default Re: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade


"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:13g2a724ne4hp84@corp.supernews.com...
> Does anyone know of alternatives to Powerleap Pentium 4 processor
> upgrades?
> I know that generally processor upgrades just don't make sense these days,
> but we have an Dimension 2400 with 2.4Ghz/533/512kb Northwood that could
> be upgraded to a 3.2Ghz/533/1mb Prescott with the use of a Powerleap
> processor (adapter and processor combined). The cost is high, but not
> having to reload the machine is even more costly and something that we are
> trying to delay (don't ask, it is really boring).
> Powerleap hasn't responded to emails and they no longer have telephone
> customer service. Clearly processor upgrades are not as popular as they
> used to be. Any alternative vendors or recommendations greatly
> appreciated.
> Thank you.
>


Chris -

Are we talking about a 3.2GHz/800mhz FSB/1mb Prescott? I'll plead
ignorance in that I thought Prescott was limited to the 800mhz FSB - is this
what the adapter is for? (to mate it with a 533mhz FSB Dim2400 board......)
?

Is the 3.06GHz/533mhz too pricey or just not enough of a performance bump
for the situation?

The benchmarks I've run here using Northwood versus an equivalent clock
speed Prescott have not been encouraging, and then there's the heat
issue.....

Stew


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Old 10-01-2007, 06:28 PM
Tom Scales
 
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Default RE: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade

I don't know any alternative, but I know the 2400 came with a 2.8 (mine
has it). Wouldn't that be a middle ground?

Unless the app is HUGELY processor intensive, I can't see this being
much improvement on an entry level machine (but you already knew that).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Muto [mailto:muto@worldnet.att.net]
> Posted At: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:06 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade
> Subject: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade
>
> Does anyone know of alternatives to Powerleap Pentium 4 processor
> upgrades?
> I know that generally processor upgrades just don't make sense these
> days,
> but we have an Dimension 2400 with 2.4Ghz/533/512kb Northwood that
> could be
> upgraded to a 3.2Ghz/533/1mb Prescott with the use of a Powerleap
> processor
> (adapter and processor combined). The cost is high, but not having to
> reload the machine is even more costly and something that we are

trying
> to
> delay (don't ask, it is really boring).
> Powerleap hasn't responded to emails and they no longer have telephone
> customer service. Clearly processor upgrades are not as popular as
> they
> used to be. Any alternative vendors or recommendations greatly
> appreciated.
> Thank you.



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Old 10-01-2007, 06:38 PM
Ben Myers
 
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Default Re: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade

Wow! At a $249 price, I can see why PowerLeap processor upgrades are
unpopular. It takes a very discriminating and expensive palate to savor the
taste of this sort of upgrade. I think that all the other CPU upgrade companies
have fallen off the face of the earth.

Why not a 3.06Ghz 533MHz FSB Northwood CPU? MUCH less expensive than PowerLeap
and some added bang for the buck compared to the current 2.4GHz.

.... Ben Myers

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:05:37 -0400, "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>Does anyone know of alternatives to Powerleap Pentium 4 processor upgrades?
>I know that generally processor upgrades just don't make sense these days,
>but we have an Dimension 2400 with 2.4Ghz/533/512kb Northwood that could be
>upgraded to a 3.2Ghz/533/1mb Prescott with the use of a Powerleap processor
>(adapter and processor combined). The cost is high, but not having to
>reload the machine is even more costly and something that we are trying to
>delay (don't ask, it is really boring).
>Powerleap hasn't responded to emails and they no longer have telephone
>customer service. Clearly processor upgrades are not as popular as they
>used to be. Any alternative vendors or recommendations greatly appreciated.
>Thank you.
>

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Old 10-01-2007, 06:45 PM
Christopher Muto
 
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Default Re: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade

Thanks guys.
I think the straight processor upgrades would be disappointing as well as
hard to find any suitable replacements of the 533fsb variety.
Also, I think the 3.2Ghz processor upgrade from Powerleap is acutally a
Celeron stuck on their adapter, hence the 533fsb (but includes 1mb L2 cache,
larger than the Northwood so overall a solid improvement). No matter what
we do it will probably be a disappointment.
Thanks again for both of the replies.

"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:A17B373AD3BF408BBB619947B3A41773@M2010...
>I don't know any alternative, but I know the 2400 came with a 2.8 (mine
> has it). Wouldn't that be a middle ground?
>
> Unless the app is HUGELY processor intensive, I can't see this being
> much improvement on an entry level machine (but you already knew that).
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Muto [mailto:muto@worldnet.att.net]
>> Posted At: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:06 PM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade
>> Subject: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade
>>
>> Does anyone know of alternatives to Powerleap Pentium 4 processor
>> upgrades?
>> I know that generally processor upgrades just don't make sense these
>> days,
>> but we have an Dimension 2400 with 2.4Ghz/533/512kb Northwood that
>> could be
>> upgraded to a 3.2Ghz/533/1mb Prescott with the use of a Powerleap
>> processor
>> (adapter and processor combined). The cost is high, but not having to
>> reload the machine is even more costly and something that we are

> trying
>> to
>> delay (don't ask, it is really boring).
>> Powerleap hasn't responded to emails and they no longer have telephone
>> customer service. Clearly processor upgrades are not as popular as
>> they
>> used to be. Any alternative vendors or recommendations greatly
>> appreciated.
>> Thank you.

>
>



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Old 10-01-2007, 06:49 PM
Christopher Muto
 
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Default Re: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade

Ben, thanks for your reply. I think you are right and we happen to be a
rare case in not wanting/able to reload this system without significant
cost. The 3Ghz/533 Northwood would be great but I haven't found the
available anywhere. Not even Ebay. But you got me thinking that for $250 I
could probably pick up an entire used system with a 3Ghz/533 Northwood and
pick the processor out of it... the funny thing is that sellers on Ebay
either don't know what the FSB is or try to hide it because they do know
Thanks again.

"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:rib2g3dd6cknk2g7e8jrgqchmboasls0gu@4ax.com...
> Wow! At a $249 price, I can see why PowerLeap processor upgrades are
> unpopular. It takes a very discriminating and expensive palate to savor
> the
> taste of this sort of upgrade. I think that all the other CPU upgrade
> companies
> have fallen off the face of the earth.
>
> Why not a 3.06Ghz 533MHz FSB Northwood CPU? MUCH less expensive than
> PowerLeap
> and some added bang for the buck compared to the current 2.4GHz.
>
> ... Ben Myers
>
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:05:37 -0400, "Christopher Muto"
> <muto@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know of alternatives to Powerleap Pentium 4 processor
>>upgrades?
>>I know that generally processor upgrades just don't make sense these days,
>>but we have an Dimension 2400 with 2.4Ghz/533/512kb Northwood that could
>>be
>>upgraded to a 3.2Ghz/533/1mb Prescott with the use of a Powerleap
>>processor
>>(adapter and processor combined). The cost is high, but not having to
>>reload the machine is even more costly and something that we are trying to
>>delay (don't ask, it is really boring).
>>Powerleap hasn't responded to emails and they no longer have telephone
>>customer service. Clearly processor upgrades are not as popular as they
>>used to be. Any alternative vendors or recommendations greatly
>>appreciated.
>>Thank you.
>>



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Old 10-01-2007, 07:28 PM
S.Lewis
 
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Default Re: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade


"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:13g2copkdg2kdf@corp.supernews.com...
> Ben, thanks for your reply. I think you are right and we happen to be a
> rare case in not wanting/able to reload this system without significant
> cost. The 3Ghz/533 Northwood would be great but I haven't found the
> available anywhere. Not even Ebay. But you got me thinking that for $250
> I could probably pick up an entire used system with a 3Ghz/533 Northwood
> and pick the processor out of it... the funny thing is that sellers on
> Ebay either don't know what the FSB is or try to hide it because they do
> know
> Thanks again.
>



Chris -

I know this would require a reload or repair of the OS, but I picked up a
Dim8300 with a 3.2GHz Northwood, 1gb RAM (dual channel), a Radeon 9800 Pro,
DVDRW and 60gb HDD for around $200 about two months ago. The machine is
still a very snappy and solid performer running WinXP Home or Pro (or even
MCE).

The case showed some wear, but nothing that couldn't be cleaned up.

Because the 3.06GHz/533mhz was/is the 'top of the line' in that 533mhz
Northwood family, the prices have grown more cost-prohibitive with age.

Shame you can't bounce them over to another (used upgrade) machine with an
800mhz FSB.

Stew


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Old 10-01-2007, 07:30 PM
Tom Scales
 
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Default Re: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade

Ebay item 280156571325

$80 will get you to 2.8

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Muto [mailto:muto@worldnet.att.net]
> Posted At: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:49 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade
> Subject: Re: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade
>
> Ben, thanks for your reply. I think you are right and we happen to be
> a
> rare case in not wanting/able to reload this system without

significant
> cost. The 3Ghz/533 Northwood would be great but I haven't found the
> available anywhere. Not even Ebay. But you got me thinking that for
> $250 I
> could probably pick up an entire used system with a 3Ghz/533 Northwood
> and
> pick the processor out of it... the funny thing is that sellers on

Ebay
> either don't know what the FSB is or try to hide it because they do
> know
> Thanks again.
>
> "Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:rib2g3dd6cknk2g7e8jrgqchmboasls0gu@4ax.com...
> > Wow! At a $249 price, I can see why PowerLeap processor upgrades

> are
> > unpopular. It takes a very discriminating and expensive palate to

> savor
> > the
> > taste of this sort of upgrade. I think that all the other CPU

> upgrade
> > companies
> > have fallen off the face of the earth.
> >
> > Why not a 3.06Ghz 533MHz FSB Northwood CPU? MUCH less expensive

than
> > PowerLeap
> > and some added bang for the buck compared to the current 2.4GHz.
> >
> > ... Ben Myers
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:05:37 -0400, "Christopher Muto"
> > <muto@worldnet.att.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Does anyone know of alternatives to Powerleap Pentium 4 processor
> >>upgrades?
> >>I know that generally processor upgrades just don't make sense these

> days,
> >>but we have an Dimension 2400 with 2.4Ghz/533/512kb Northwood that

> could
> >>be
> >>upgraded to a 3.2Ghz/533/1mb Prescott with the use of a Powerleap
> >>processor
> >>(adapter and processor combined). The cost is high, but not having

> to
> >>reload the machine is even more costly and something that we are

> trying to
> >>delay (don't ask, it is really boring).
> >>Powerleap hasn't responded to emails and they no longer have

> telephone
> >>customer service. Clearly processor upgrades are not as popular as

> they
> >>used to be. Any alternative vendors or recommendations greatly
> >>appreciated.
> >>Thank you.
> >>



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Old 10-01-2007, 08:19 PM
wm_walsh@hotmail.com
 
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Default Re: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade

Hi!

> Does anyone know of alternatives to Powerleap Pentium 4
> processor upgrades?


The only one I knew of was Evergreen Technologies, and they turned
brown and shriveled up some time ago. So far as I can tell, they just
disappeared...here today, gone tomorrow and not a word in edgewise as
to why.

Kingston (the memory company) also sold CPU upgrades, but I think they
got out of the business a *long* time ago.

If you go this route, test the upgrade on a nonessential system
*first*. There's a fairly good chance that the system would not be
happy with the CPU upgrade and data damage or loss could result. While
you're at it, check the power supply to make sure it is adequate.

> Powerleap hasn't responded to emails and they no longer
> have telephone customer service.


This sounds like a dying company to me...

William

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Old 10-01-2007, 08:23 PM
S.Lewis
 
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Default Re: Alternative to Powerleap P4 processor upgrade


<wm_walsh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191266378.548098.25040@n39g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi!
>
>> Does anyone know of alternatives to Powerleap Pentium 4
>> processor upgrades?

>
> The only one I knew of was Evergreen Technologies, and they turned
> brown and shriveled up some time ago. So far as I can tell, they just
> disappeared...here today, gone tomorrow and not a word in edgewise as
> to why.
>
> Kingston (the memory company) also sold CPU upgrades, but I think they
> got out of the business a *long* time ago.
>
> If you go this route, test the upgrade on a nonessential system
> *first*. There's a fairly good chance that the system would not be
> happy with the CPU upgrade and data damage or loss could result. While
> you're at it, check the power supply to make sure it is adequate.
>
>> Powerleap hasn't responded to emails and they no longer
>> have telephone customer service.

>
> This sounds like a dying company to me...
>
> William
>



That's expected when you're a company providing a $150 upgrade on a $1500 to
$3000 system. But now that new systems can be had for $399 budget up to
$1000 performance.......that's all she wrote.

Commoditization casualty I'd guess.


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