After Lightening Storm - Computer Will Not Turn on

On Jul 26, 6:09 am, Trekman <Trekma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For what it is worth, my computer years ago was hit and determined to
> have come through the modem line, the telephone wire (back in the old
> days of dial-up for me).

Who determined a surge entered on phone lines? Even A+ Certified
computer techs need not know how electricity works. Did a computer
tech (most don't know how electricity works) make that determination?
Of did he just use popular myth to promote wild speculation?

Well if that surge entered on phone line, and harmed a motherboard,
then where was that surge outgoing? No outgoing path means no modem
and motherboard damage. So what was the outgoing path? Did he know
power supplies contain protection? Did that surge go outgoing through
the power supply? Then power supply protection was also destroyed.
Why was a damaged power supply not replaced? What was the outgoing
path that always must exist; must be known to declare a surge incoming
on phone lines?

Most techs will assume modems are damaged by surges incoming on
phone lines only because the myth is popular and promoted just like
Saddam's WMDs. If a surge entered on phone line, then that tech
strongly recommended fixing the telco installed protector. Did he do
that? Most techs don't even know that protector exists due to
insufficient electrical knowledge. . He could not recommend fixing a
protector that he did not know exists at every home. This is the guy
who somehow knows a surge entered on phone lines?

Most modems are damaged by a surge incoming on AC mains, through
motherboard, then out to earth ground via modem and telephone line.
Sound familiar? Your symptoms are classic of a surge incoming on AC
mains; outgoing via phone lines. Many if not most all computer techs
would say that surge was incoming on phone line due to insufficient
electrical knowledge. No electrical knowledge is necessary to become
an A+ Certified computer tech. So who 'determined' the surge was
incoming on phone lines - a popular myth.

Von Fourche wrote:

> Ok, I'm posting this for my brother who's wife has a HP computer. I'm
> asking here because I figure you all would know. So, we had a storm last
> night. Some lightening. My brothers wife turned off here HP computer
> during the storm. My brother says the computer is hooked up to a power
> surge thing. Anyway, after the storm the computer will not turn on. I told
> him to check all the cables and plug it and unplug it. It will not turn on.
> The power surge thing still works. The monitor still comes on.
>
> So, does the computer have a fried powerpack from a lightening hit? My
> brother is thinking it's from lightening or maybe the on button is broke.
> If they had a power surge device, shouldn't that have saved the computer?
> Any ideas? I have not seen the computer yet. I suspect I will be taking a
> drive to his house this evening to check it out.
>
> Thanks!

Have you had a chance to take a look at the computer yet? Just curious,
wondering if you were able to find out what the problem was.

"w_tom" <w_tom1@usa.net> wrote in message
news:26eb7084-75b6-4088-b002-ba0bce6097f3@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 26, 6:09 am, Trekman <Trekma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For what it is worth, my computer years ago was hit and determined to
>> have come through the modem line, the telephone wire (back in the old
>> days of dial-up for me).
>
> Who determined a surge entered on phone lines? Even A+ Certified
> computer techs need not know how electricity works. Did a computer
> tech (most don't know how electricity works) make that determination?
> Of did he just use popular myth to promote wild speculation?
>
> Well if that surge entered on phone line, and harmed a motherboard,
> then where was that surge outgoing? No outgoing path means no modem
> and motherboard damage. So what was the outgoing path? Did he know
> power supplies contain protection? Did that surge go outgoing through
> the power supply? Then power supply protection was also destroyed.
> Why was a damaged power supply not replaced? What was the outgoing
> path that always must exist; must be known to declare a surge incoming
> on phone lines?
>
> Most techs will assume modems are damaged by surges incoming on
> phone lines only because the myth is popular and promoted just like
> Saddam's WMDs. If a surge entered on phone line, then that tech
> strongly recommended fixing the telco installed protector. Did he do
> that? Most techs don't even know that protector exists due to
> insufficient electrical knowledge. . He could not recommend fixing a
> protector that he did not know exists at every home. This is the guy
> who somehow knows a surge entered on phone lines?
>
> Most modems are damaged by a surge incoming on AC mains, through
> motherboard, then out to earth ground via modem and telephone line.
> Sound familiar? Your symptoms are classic of a surge incoming on AC
> mains; outgoing via phone lines. Many if not most all computer techs
> would say that surge was incoming on phone line due to insufficient
> electrical knowledge. No electrical knowledge is necessary to become
> an A+ Certified computer tech. So who 'determined' the surge was
> incoming on phone lines - a popular myth.

Quick check for external surge entry point: Check you phone and the telco
demarcation box. With most modern telephone equipment the electronic will
be just as fried as the computer.