On Wed, 02 May 2007 21:25:56 GMT, Ron Hardin <rhhardin@mindspring.com>
wrote:
>That's $500 off a price nobody pays. Not to say it isn't worth it,
>which it may well be.
<snip>
>I don't think speed differences matter much, at the speeds these
>things already have got.
>Ron Hardin
>rhhardin@mindspring.com
>
>On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
Hi Ron, I don't understand your sig line. I've learned that on the
Internet people can really be jerks, in many cases probably moreso
than off the Internet. Being behind a computer screen can be like how
people can get with their driving habits when they are insulated by
their cars.
I think you're right about it being $500 that nobody would pay. If I
wanted to pay $2300 for a laptop I'd buy a ThinkPad rather than a
Dell.
I would, however, vastly prefer a Dell at a price equal to a HP /
Compaq or Toshiba.
As far as speed difference, IMO it does matter. Office 2007 for
example is very bloated. I bought a processor with 4M cache and am
very satisfied. I figured that I will be living with this laptop for
2-3 years so I might as well get one that performs well that I will be
happy with. I have seen some tests done that shows that Core 2 Duo
runs a lot faster than Core Duo, and Core 2 Duo with 4M cache has a
big jump in performance compared to 2M of cache.
So, with both my XPS 410 and 640m, I got the lowest Core 2 Duo with 4M
cache, and I am glad -- I don't have to second guess myself.
On Thu, 3 May 2007 00:54:39 -0400, "User N" <usern@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
>"Journey" <rainbow@oasis.com> wrote in message news:elji33df079e865jnb0n8bggku0m90fsd8@4ax.com...
>
>> I like the 9 cell battery. One thing I didn't realize until recently
>> was that it provides some protection for the power connection. The 9
>> cell extends out of the back of the laptop, just to the left of the
>> power connection.
>
>Uh... I think the OP inquired about the Dell E1505, which still has
>the battery in the bottom front does it not?
I'm sorry ... my bad. Thank you for clarifying that.
"Journey" <rainbow@oasis.com> wrote in message news:elji33df079e865jnb0n8bggku0m90fsd8@4ax.com...
> I like the 9 cell battery. One thing I didn't realize until recently
> was that it provides some protection for the power connection. The 9
> cell extends out of the back of the laptop, just to the left of the
> power connection.
Uh... I think the OP inquired about the Dell E1505, which still has
the battery in the bottom front does it not?
On May 2, 8:53 pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Dell's prices on memory and hard drive are very high; when the coupons
> were for a % discount, it could make sense to use them for memory or
> hard drive, but it may not make sense when they are for a fixed $$$ amount.
>
> [For example, for what Dell charges to upgrade from the "base" hard
> drive to some higher capacity or faster hard drive, you may be able to
> buy the higher end hard drive outright (from Newegg or ZipZoomFly) and
> keep the original drive from Dell as a "free bonus".]
>
> So check the prices of the memory and/or hard drive upgrade you are
> considering (from Newegg, ZZF or other sources) before adding it to your
> order ***IF*** there are other things that you might rather get instead.
>
> It pays to use the "gap" between $699 (base model) and $1,499 (where you
> have to get to for the $500 coupon) for things that are difficult to do
> or get elsewhere. That means Video, CPU and extended warranty contracts
> (if you want those). Also, perhaps, an OS upgrade (Ultimate instead of
> Home Premium .... but, again, you can get Vista Ultimate OEM outright
> for $189 or so, so don't pay more than that).
>
> Note that you can buy a 160GB 5,400rpm hard drive outright, new, with a
> 3 year warranty, for under $100 (Western Digital from ZZF). A 7200rpm
> drive may cost TRIPLE the cost of a same size 5400 rpm drive. That's a
> huge premium (it's not a given that the necessarily run hotter ... some
> do, some don't. Check the drive specs ... power consumption = heat
> generation).
>
> There is a lot to be said for going with the Core 2 Duo chips that have
> the 4MB cache system (I think that starts in the T7200).
>
> If you are not buying the laptop for portability, do you need a battery
> AT ALL? If you are plugged in to AC all the time at a stationary
> location, the battery should be removed completely anyway and the laptop
> should be connected to a small (350VA) UPS (about $30). In that case,
> buying the large capacity battery may make no sense at all.
>
> There are some [significant] new Intel processors and chipsets coming
> out soon, but that would mean waiting a few months.
>
> Compulady wrote:
> > I'm considering taking advantage of the 500.00 coupon which ends
> > tomorrow. There are lots of choices with speed of memory, hard drive
> > processor.
>
> > I'm thinking about going with the following:
>
> > Processor: Core 2 Duo T5600 (1.83 GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 667 MGHz FSB)
>
> > Memory: 2GB DDR@ SDRAM at 667 MHZ
>
> > Hard Drive: I was going to go with the 120 GB 5400 RPM drive because
> > I read that the 7200 RPM ran really hot. Someone however suggested
> > that the 7200 RPM is significantly faster.
>
> > Oh -- and I thought I'd go with the 9 cell battery as I understand it
> > lasts 2 hours longer than the standard 6 cell. Since I buying a laptop
> > to save space rather than for its portability, I thought the extra
> > weight wouldn't matter.
>
> > What does everyone think? Are all the updates worth the extra money?
> > Should I even hold out a little longer before buying in terms of
> > either saving money or a better configuration. Yes, I know there is
> > always going to be a change but is there anything significant going to
> > happen in the next month?
>
> > Thank you in advance for your input.
I thinking that I'll hold out for the processor with the 4 Mb cache.
Those who have them seem to be very satisfied. However, they seem to
be hard to get at the moment. It is not an option on the 1505 for Dell
Home laptops. I did configure one through AAA but I can't use the good
coupons and they are still a lot of additional money. Perhaps if I
wait a couple of weeks, they will be in greater supply.
On Thu, 03 May 2007 09:54:25 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:
>Journey <rainbow@oasis.com> wrote:
>
>>So, with both my XPS 410 and 640m, I got the lowest Core 2 Duo with 4M
>>cache, and I am glad -- I don't have to second guess myself.
>
>I'm curious what you do with your XPS 410?
>
>Just curious abt the need for a desktop at all given
>you have such a nice 640m?
I use the laptop when I am mobile. It's the computer that I also keep
most of my documents / data on. With the configuration that I have
now, I want to use this until the "next iteration" of technology. I
use Vista on my laptop.
When I am home I often use my XPS 410 instead of my laptop. I can
have my laptop on and still access the data either directly or through
Remote Desktop (which is great, I use it all the time). The XPS 410
is my entertainment center, a step down from what many people have,
but good enough for my needs. I use the XPS 410 for downloads,
editing pictures, multimedia, and for any task which could be easier
with two large monitors.
I also play games on the 410. The 410 has better performance than the
640m. It also has two large flat screen monitors attached to it (The
Dell 24" and 22" wide screen). I have my electric keyboard next to
the 410 -- now I need to find some good software so that I can learn
to play the keyboard.
The extra computer that I don't need is my E510 P4. However, given
the current price and capabilities of new desktops, I can't in good
conscience sell it for what I would want for it. I could easily sell
it to a friend who doesn't know anything about it. If I were to sell
it to a friend, I would probably try to get $350 out of it. It has
2.5G of RAM, two 250G hard drives, DVD ROM and DVD RW, and I'd include
a 17" monitor and a Canon scanner that I don't need. Even so, I might
not sell it for that because I would feel like I am ripping my friend
off. I can contrast this to when I sold my 8100 for $1,100 about a
year and a half ago.
I don't know what I will use the E510 for. I may take someone's idea
of "putting it in a corner" and use it as a file server. I use that
computer to sync my iPod, digital recorder, and Treo 680. If I do
turn it into a file server, that will free up a 6' long desk, and I
could use that for my laptop. I install trial software, or "junky"
software on the E510.
On Thu, 03 May 2007 19:00:04 -0500, Journey <rainbow@oasis.com> wrote:
>
>I use the laptop when I am mobile. It's the computer that I also keep
>most of my documents / data on. With the configuration that I have
>now, I want to use this until the "next iteration" of technology. I
>use Vista on my laptop.
By "next iteration", I see my current laptop satisfying my needs until
the time when solid state drives are available and affordable, and
battery life is for all practical purposes unlimited (i.e. charge
overnight and it's fine the whole next day).
On Thu, 03 May 2007 09:54:25 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:
>Journey <rainbow@oasis.com> wrote:
>
>>So, with both my XPS 410 and 640m, I got the lowest Core 2 Duo with 4M
>>cache, and I am glad -- I don't have to second guess myself.
>
>I'm curious what you do with your XPS 410?
>
>Just curious abt the need for a desktop at all given
>you have such a nice 640m?
My brain is working slowly today lol. In general (and is true with my
situation) a desktop can complement a laptop in many ways, such as
having a better keyboard, attached to monitors, attached to other
hardware -- printer, scanner, webcam, externals, etc.
On May 3, 2:25 pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Dell has offered the T7200 (4MB cache) on the E1505 .... I think it's
> odd that it's not listed at this moment (it's not, however).
Even if the T7200 (4MB cache) on the E1505 was available, it is a
$200.00 upgrade at the moment. Is it worth that difference in price?
How long would you say it will take pricing to come down a little?
Interesting that the T7200 (4MB cache) on the E1705 is available and
also on the E1405. However on the E1705, there is no 2 MB cache option
with a 667 MHz FSB as there is on the 1505.
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