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Old 01-24-2009, 02:41 AM
Mike Echo
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Default CDR/DVDR speed reduced. Why?

My XPSP2 system has 2 DVD burners (LG GSA-H10A [16x] and LG GSA H-22N
[18x]). A while back I started burning some data to DVD and was annoyed
by the fact that it was burning at 4x. I thought I must have not changed
a setting in the burning programme (CDBurnerXP) but it was set at 4x
which was the max available. Then I thought the DVDs must have been
wrongly labelled and couldn't wait until I used them up and bought some
"better" [Memorex] ones.

Well, I used the "better" 16x ones and the burners still only went up to
4x. I then removed both drives from within Device Manager, rebooted and
now they show up as being able to read/write at 8467kbs when checked
through the info in CDBurnerXP.

I tried to check the drive info in the freeware NeroCDSpeed but it gives
me an error saying "could not initialise the wnaspi32.dll". I got hold
of the wnaspi32.dll, stuck it in system/system32, rebooted but it still
won't work. An earlier version of DriveSpeed worked and gave me a record
speed of 4x when I burnt a test DVD.

1. What could have changed my drives' speeds in the first place?
2. Is wnaspi32.dll needed? I assume it might have been pre XPSP2.
3. Any ideas how to solve this speed problem? 8x is okay, but it will
bug me no end not knowing why this has happened.

Thanks,
any pointers appreciated,
R.


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Old 01-24-2009, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: CDR/DVDR speed reduced. Why?

Mike Echo <you@wish.invalid> wrote:

>1. What could have changed my drives' speeds in the first place?


Windows has a habit of changing the transfer mode of parallel ATA
interfaces limiting maximum transfer speed. It does it automatically when
it detects controller errors. It has been a troublesome area depending on
which IDE controller you have. Depending on the controller it might inherit
the transfer mode set (or decided) by the BIOS.

De- and re-installing the drives probably set the mode back to default.

You need UDMA33 mode and preferably UDMA66 mode for high speed DVD drives.

You need 80 way IDE cables for UDMA66 and they are preferable for UDMA33.

You might find some information and options in the property pages for your
controller in device manager.


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Old 01-24-2009, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: CDR/DVDR speed reduced. Why?

From time to time I have had speed probs also.
On multiple occasions I've found under Device Manager/IDE ATA
Controllers, the primary or secondary channel that a device is
connected to has changed to "PIO" Mode.
At this point, trying to change it to "DMA if available" never works,
and the only solution is to un-install that channel (in Device
Manager) then reboot, which then recognises that channel and
re-installs the necessary driver.
Don't know if this is what's happening to you, but worth a look.
Cheers
Gary

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:41:41 +1100, Mike Echo <you@wish.invalid>
wrote:

>My XPSP2 system has 2 DVD burners (LG GSA-H10A [16x] and LG GSA H-22N
>[18x]). A while back I started burning some data to DVD and was annoyed
>by the fact that it was burning at 4x. I thought I must have not changed
>a setting in the burning programme (CDBurnerXP) but it was set at 4x
>which was the max available. Then I thought the DVDs must have been
>wrongly labelled and couldn't wait until I used them up and bought some
>"better" [Memorex] ones.
>
>Well, I used the "better" 16x ones and the burners still only went up to
>4x. I then removed both drives from within Device Manager, rebooted and
>now they show up as being able to read/write at 8467kbs when checked
>through the info in CDBurnerXP.
>
>I tried to check the drive info in the freeware NeroCDSpeed but it gives
>me an error saying "could not initialise the wnaspi32.dll". I got hold
>of the wnaspi32.dll, stuck it in system/system32, rebooted but it still
>won't work. An earlier version of DriveSpeed worked and gave me a record
>speed of 4x when I burnt a test DVD.
>
>1. What could have changed my drives' speeds in the first place?
>2. Is wnaspi32.dll needed? I assume it might have been pre XPSP2.
>3. Any ideas how to solve this speed problem? 8x is okay, but it will
>bug me no end not knowing why this has happened.
>
>Thanks,
>any pointers appreciated,
>R.

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Old 01-24-2009, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: CDR/DVDR speed reduced. Why?

Gary Dingle wrote:

> From time to time I have had speed probs also.
> On multiple occasions I've found under Device Manager/IDE ATA
> Controllers, the primary or secondary channel that a device is
> connected to has changed to "PIO" Mode.
> At this point, trying to change it to "DMA if available" never works,
> and the only solution is to un-install that channel (in Device
> Manager) then reboot, which then recognises that channel and
> re-installs the necessary driver.
> Don't know if this is what's happening to you, but worth a look.
> Cheers
> Gary


Mine are both set to DMA (one ultra 33 and one ultra 66). I have them
both on the same channel as I never use both drives at the same time. I
have removed the drives in Device manager but they remain the same. Do
you mean remove the ATA channel itself in Device Manager as opposed to
each drive? Hadn't thought of that.

Screen shot of my ATA settings here:

http://i43.tinypic.com/t5r412.jpg

I am also thinking of ripping the drives out and making one per channel
to see if it is a cabling issue. I have tried the things others have
suggested here to no avail, though all suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks for the reply matey.
R.



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Old 01-24-2009, 12:11 PM
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:19 +1100, Mike Echo <you@wish.invalid>
wrote:

>Gary Dingle wrote:
>
>> From time to time I have had speed probs also.
>> On multiple occasions I've found under Device Manager/IDE ATA
>> Controllers, the primary or secondary channel that a device is
>> connected to has changed to "PIO" Mode.
>> At this point, trying to change it to "DMA if available" never works,
>> and the only solution is to un-install that channel (in Device
>> Manager) then reboot, which then recognises that channel and
>> re-installs the necessary driver.
>> Don't know if this is what's happening to you, but worth a look.
>> Cheers
>> Gary

>
>Mine are both set to DMA (one ultra 33 and one ultra 66). I have them
>both on the same channel as I never use both drives at the same time. I
>have removed the drives in Device manager but they remain the same. Do
>you mean remove the ATA channel itself in Device Manager as opposed to
>each drive? Hadn't thought of that.
>
>Screen shot of my ATA settings here:
>
>http://i43.tinypic.com/t5r412.jpg
>
>I am also thinking of ripping the drives out and making one per channel
>to see if it is a cabling issue. I have tried the things others have
>suggested here to no avail, though all suggestions are appreciated.
>
>Thanks for the reply matey.
>R.


They should be OK, as they show as DMA.
Removing the drives in Device Manager never helped me, but
un-installing the IDE channel itself was the only way I could get a
change from "PIO" mode back to "DMA"
Sorry I can't be of further help.
Gary
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:13 PM
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> Download NeroDiscSpeed_41140.zip, NeroInfoTool_403.zip and wnaspi32.dll
> into the same folder:
> http://www.cdspeed2000.com/files/
>
> InfoTool_403 has ASPI tab. Post back what the tab lists.


"ASPI is installed and working properly" (I followed the link you gave me
about the ASPI layer).

One interesting thing that may or may not be of importance though,
is the difference between in drive tab info for each drive.

DRIVE F: Read 48x, Write 48x, C2 errors ticked
DRIVE G: Read "n/a", Write 48x, C2 errors UNticked

Both show as DVD-RAM drives.

Thanks,
R.


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Old 01-25-2009, 02:39 AM
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smh wrote:

> LG DVD Writer FAQ (Updated 28 Jul 2008)
> http://club.cdfreaks.com/f91/lg-dvd-...2008-a-168082/
>
> 38.I have just purchased some Memorex 16x DVD-R discs but they will only
> burn at 4x on my GSA-4163B. What is going on?
> http://club.cdfreaks.com/1648710-post39.html
>
> 40.I cannot get my GSA-4163B/4167B/H10x to be detected as a UDMA4 drive.
> What is going on?
> http://club.cdfreaks.com/1648713-post41.html


Thanks very much for the info, smh, it makes for an interesting read. I
went out this morning and bought some Sony 16x and guess what? They show
up as 16x in both drives (I haven't done a test burn yet, but the 16x
shows up as an available speed for both drives in CDBurnerXP).

So the Memorex, even though labelled as 16x, only perform at a lower
rate in these particular drives. I am grateful for all the responses and
this has taught me not to try and save a couple of bucks on discs that
are not my usual brand. I usually use Verbatim or TDK and now I know
Sony ones are decent. Oh, I bought DVD+ instead of my usual [out of
habit] DVD-.

It's always nice to get to the bottom of something, especially a
frustratingly simple issue like this.

Thanks again, and happy burning.
R.




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Old 01-25-2009, 08:39 AM
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smh wrote:

> Have you tried ScanDisc in the burner with C2 un-checked? If
> successful, check again and see if C2 is still un-checked.


The C2 still remains unchecked. I am in two minds here - either leave
well enoguh alone as long as it works, or update the firmware to see if
it improves this minor aspect.

R.



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