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  #11  
Old 08-23-2007, 09:00 PM
Adam
 
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help


"Captain Midnight" <Notany@twip.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:Kqjzi.1573$vU4.493@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "You have not connected the power extension cable to
> > > >>> your Radeon 9800 video card
> > > >>> Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
> > > >>> proper hardware installation !!!"
> > > >>>
> > > >>> After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
> > > >>> the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
> > > >>> the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
> > > >>> my guess is that the video card is overheating.
> > > >>> Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?

>
> > I haven't had a cover on my system for a long time.
> > I don't have any (big / small) fans around. So,
> > I used Dust Off to blow cool air directly on the chip.
> > It helped but only briefly. The system is currently off.
> > I will let it cool before powering it up again.
> > It might work for a minute.
> >

>
> Could be the power supply.
> Make sure the card is getting proper power from the Molex connector. 12volt
> +/- 5%. I'd think anything less than 11.7v would still be suspect.
>


That's a possibility ... even though I have
a decent power supply (Antec PP-412X 400W) and
the video card has been working for
8 months or so without change (by human).
I'll have to keep that in mind.


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  #12  
Old 08-23-2007, 09:22 PM
Larry
 
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help


"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
news:uZhzi.11001$3x.6308@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
> My current setup is as follows ...
>
> Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43
> AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
> PCI Slot 1: -----
> PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M
> PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
> PCI Slot 4: USB Card
> PCI Slot 5: -----
> Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition
>
>
> The problem started creeping up last night ...
> - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen
> - the system freezes when I move the mouse
> - something was mildly burning / overheating
>
>
> I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning.
> It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.
> On one reboot, I got the following message ...
>
> "You have not connected the power extension cable to
> your Radeon 9800 video card
> Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
> proper hardware installation !!!"
>
> After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
> the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
> the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
> my guess is that the video card is overheating.
> Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?
>
> Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...
>
> "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because
> no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly.
> The ATI Control Panel will now exit."
>
> And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480
> It will not take any other resolution.
>
>


I had same card same problem, took the fan off and bought a cheap chipset
fan and mouted it on top of the sink, then I put an extra slot fan under it
to help. worked for a while but dont be surprised if it burns up, it you do
any gaming that makes it toasty. ATI of course has only a 2 year warranty,
thats why anytime I buy a video card I buy a BFG nvidia card....lifetime
guarantee....and I've used it, had one fail...mailed it on Monday they had
my replacement on the porch by thursday....very impressive.


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  #13  
Old 08-23-2007, 09:39 PM
Adam
 
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help


"Larry" <userconsumer@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:uZhzi.11001$3x.6308@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
> > My current setup is as follows ...
> >
> > Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43
> > AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> > AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
> > PCI Slot 1: -----
> > PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M
> > PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
> > PCI Slot 4: USB Card
> > PCI Slot 5: -----
> > Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition
> >
> >
> > The problem started creeping up last night ...
> > - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen
> > - the system freezes when I move the mouse
> > - something was mildly burning / overheating
> >
> >
> > I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning.
> > It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.
> > On one reboot, I got the following message ...
> >
> > "You have not connected the power extension cable to
> > your Radeon 9800 video card
> > Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
> > proper hardware installation !!!"
> >
> > After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
> > the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
> > the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
> > my guess is that the video card is overheating.
> > Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?
> >
> > Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...
> >
> > "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because
> > no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly.
> > The ATI Control Panel will now exit."
> >
> > And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480
> > It will not take any other resolution.
> >
> >

>
> I had same card same problem, took the fan off and bought a cheap chipset
> fan and mouted it on top of the sink, then I put an extra slot fan under it
> to help. worked for a while but dont be surprised if it burns up, it you do
> any gaming that makes it toasty. ATI of course has only a 2 year warranty,
> thats why anytime I buy a video card I buy a BFG nvidia card....lifetime
> guarantee....and I've used it, had one fail...mailed it on Monday they had
> my replacement on the porch by thursday....very impressive.
>


Wouldn't taking the video card apart void the warranty?

With this type of technology, 2 years is about a lifetime. ;o)


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  #14  
Old 08-23-2007, 10:31 PM
Larry
 
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help


"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Larry" <userconsumer@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e4SdnQ8rL5fhcVDbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
>> news:uZhzi.11001$3x.6308@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> > My current setup is as follows ...
>> >
>> > Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43
>> > AMD Athlon XP 1600+
>> > AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
>> > PCI Slot 1: -----
>> > PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M
>> > PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
>> > PCI Slot 4: USB Card
>> > PCI Slot 5: -----
>> > Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition
>> >
>> >
>> > The problem started creeping up last night ...
>> > - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen
>> > - the system freezes when I move the mouse
>> > - something was mildly burning / overheating
>> >
>> >
>> > I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning.
>> > It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.
>> > On one reboot, I got the following message ...
>> >
>> > "You have not connected the power extension cable to
>> > your Radeon 9800 video card
>> > Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
>> > proper hardware installation !!!"
>> >
>> > After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
>> > the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
>> > the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
>> > my guess is that the video card is overheating.
>> > Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...
>> >
>> > "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because
>> > no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly.
>> > The ATI Control Panel will now exit."
>> >
>> > And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480
>> > It will not take any other resolution.
>> >
>> >

>>
>> I had same card same problem, took the fan off and bought a cheap chipset
>> fan and mouted it on top of the sink, then I put an extra slot fan under
>> it
>> to help. worked for a while but dont be surprised if it burns up, it you
>> do
>> any gaming that makes it toasty. ATI of course has only a 2 year
>> warranty,
>> thats why anytime I buy a video card I buy a BFG nvidia card....lifetime
>> guarantee....and I've used it, had one fail...mailed it on Monday they
>> had
>> my replacement on the porch by thursday....very impressive.
>>

>
> Wouldn't taking the video card apart void the warranty?
>
> With this type of technology, 2 years is about a lifetime. ;o)
>
>


Yes that would void the warranty, if it still underwarranty get it replaced
or repaired, It has to have a working fan. I am suprised that it still under
warranty?I Bought my Raedon 9800 like 6 or 7 years ago....they still selling
it?


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  #15  
Old 08-23-2007, 10:40 PM
DaveW
 
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help

Your video card overheated and failed. Time for a new one.

--
---------------------
DaveW
"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
news:uZhzi.11001$3x.6308@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
> My current setup is as follows ...
>
> Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43
> AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
> PCI Slot 1: -----
> PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M
> PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
> PCI Slot 4: USB Card
> PCI Slot 5: -----
> Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition
>
>
> The problem started creeping up last night ...
> - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen
> - the system freezes when I move the mouse
> - something was mildly burning / overheating
>
>
> I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning.
> It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.
> On one reboot, I got the following message ...
>
> "You have not connected the power extension cable to
> your Radeon 9800 video card
> Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
> proper hardware installation !!!"
>
> After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
> the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
> the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
> my guess is that the video card is overheating.
> Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?
>
> Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...
>
> "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because
> no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly.
> The ATI Control Panel will now exit."
>
> And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480
> It will not take any other resolution.
>
>



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  #16  
Old 08-23-2007, 10:57 PM
Adam
 
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help


"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:Kqjzi.1573$vU4.493@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> "RobV" <robert@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:46cdbe14$0$11040$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > Adam wrote:
> > > "RobV" <robert@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:46cdb476$0$19000$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > >> Adam wrote:
> > >>> My current setup is as follows ...
> > >>>
> > >>> Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43
> > >>> AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> > >>> AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
> > >>> PCI Slot 1: -----
> > >>> PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M
> > >>> PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
> > >>> PCI Slot 4: USB Card
> > >>> PCI Slot 5: -----
> > >>> Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> The problem started creeping up last night ...
> > >>> - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen
> > >>> - the system freezes when I move the mouse
> > >>> - something was mildly burning / overheating
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning.
> > >>> It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.
> > >>> On one reboot, I got the following message ...
> > >>>
> > >>> "You have not connected the power extension cable to
> > >>> your Radeon 9800 video card
> > >>> Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
> > >>> proper hardware installation !!!"
> > >>>
> > >>> After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
> > >>> the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
> > >>> the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
> > >>> my guess is that the video card is overheating.
> > >>> Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...
> > >>>
> > >>> "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because
> > >>> no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly.
> > >>> The ATI Control Panel will now exit."
> > >>>
> > >>> And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480
> > >>> It will not take any other resolution.
> > >>
> > >> Sounds like the card went bad. However, it can't hurt to uninstall,
> > >> then install the latest drivers for the card (if it lets you get that
> > >> far).
> > >>
> > >
> > > Good idea ... I'll uninstall and reinstall.
> > >
> > > I still don't have a good feeling about that
> > > fan not spinning though. What's the best way to cool that Radeon
> > > chip?
> > > Add a card (in Slot 1) with a fan blowing at the AGP video card?
> > > Is there such a card? Or, am I getting imaginative? ;o)

> >
> > As Ron mentioned, yes there is a fan mounted on a PCI slot so you blow
> > cool air on the card. For now, leave the side off the computer and get
> > a small (or large) fan blowing cool air into the computer. That will
> > help determine if it's heat related alone, and not a card failure also.
> >

>
> Thanks for the info. I checked with the seller and
> found out that this video card is still under warranty since
> I only purchased it around Thanksgiving 2006.
> And, I can either send it back to the seller or ATI.
> Is it better to send it directly to ATI?
>
> I haven't had a cover on my system for a long time.
> I don't have any (big / small) fans around. So,
> I used Dust Off to blow cool air directly on the chip.
> It helped but only briefly. The system is currently off.
> I will let it cool before powering it up again.
> It might work for a minute.
>


Well, I finally powered up the system. As expected,
it worked fine for a few minutes. I was even able to
set the resolution back to the way it was, nice and high.
So now, I strongly believe that the problem is due to
insufficient cooling. If I send the video card back to ATI,
they'll likely replace the fan, which might go bad in
another 6-8 months and I'm back to square one.
Hmmm ... what to do ... can't wait to get my hands on
that PCI VGA cooler now.


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Old 08-23-2007, 11:00 PM
Adam
 
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help


"Larry" <userconsumer@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:Vfmzi.5175$i75.4567@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >
> > "Larry" <userconsumer@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:e4SdnQ8rL5fhcVDbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>
> >> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> >> news:uZhzi.11001$3x.6308@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >> > My current setup is as follows ...
> >> >
> >> > Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43
> >> > AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> >> > AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
> >> > PCI Slot 1: -----
> >> > PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M
> >> > PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
> >> > PCI Slot 4: USB Card
> >> > PCI Slot 5: -----
> >> > Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The problem started creeping up last night ...
> >> > - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen
> >> > - the system freezes when I move the mouse
> >> > - something was mildly burning / overheating
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning.
> >> > It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.
> >> > On one reboot, I got the following message ...
> >> >
> >> > "You have not connected the power extension cable to
> >> > your Radeon 9800 video card
> >> > Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
> >> > proper hardware installation !!!"
> >> >
> >> > After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
> >> > the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
> >> > the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
> >> > my guess is that the video card is overheating.
> >> > Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> > Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...
> >> >
> >> > "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because
> >> > no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly.
> >> > The ATI Control Panel will now exit."
> >> >
> >> > And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480
> >> > It will not take any other resolution.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I had same card same problem, took the fan off and bought a cheap chipset
> >> fan and mouted it on top of the sink, then I put an extra slot fan under
> >> it
> >> to help. worked for a while but dont be surprised if it burns up, it you
> >> do
> >> any gaming that makes it toasty. ATI of course has only a 2 year
> >> warranty,
> >> thats why anytime I buy a video card I buy a BFG nvidia card....lifetime
> >> guarantee....and I've used it, had one fail...mailed it on Monday they
> >> had
> >> my replacement on the porch by thursday....very impressive.
> >>

> >
> > Wouldn't taking the video card apart void the warranty?
> >
> > With this type of technology, 2 years is about a lifetime. ;o)
> >
> >

>
> Yes that would void the warranty, if it still underwarranty get it replaced
> or repaired, It has to have a working fan. I am suprised that it still under
> warranty?I Bought my Raedon 9800 like 6 or 7 years ago....they still selling
> it?
>


It's now no longer available by the seller. Otherwise,
I would have sent it back to the seller for a replacement.
I probably bought the last of the bunch. That's why it was
not very expensive.


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  #18  
Old 08-23-2007, 11:03 PM
Adam
 
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help

No-no-no ... that's not what I want to hear ... please no.


"DaveW" <nothing@bot.org> wrote in message news:vMSdnZ4419gRY1DbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Your video card overheated and failed. Time for a new one.
>
> --
> ---------------------
> DaveW
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:uZhzi.11001$3x.6308@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
> > My current setup is as follows ...
> >
> > Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43
> > AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> > AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
> > PCI Slot 1: -----
> > PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M
> > PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
> > PCI Slot 4: USB Card
> > PCI Slot 5: -----
> > Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition
> >
> >
> > The problem started creeping up last night ...
> > - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen
> > - the system freezes when I move the mouse
> > - something was mildly burning / overheating
> >
> >
> > I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning.
> > It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.
> > On one reboot, I got the following message ...
> >
> > "You have not connected the power extension cable to
> > your Radeon 9800 video card
> > Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
> > proper hardware installation !!!"
> >
> > After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
> > the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
> > the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
> > my guess is that the video card is overheating.
> > Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?
> >
> > Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...
> >
> > "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because
> > no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly.
> > The ATI Control Panel will now exit."
> >
> > And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480
> > It will not take any other resolution.
> >
> >

>
>


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Old 08-23-2007, 11:19 PM
Michael W. Ryder
 
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help

Adam wrote:
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:Kqjzi.1573$vU4.493@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> "RobV" <robert@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:46cdbe14$0$11040$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Adam wrote:
>>>> "RobV" <robert@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:46cdb476$0$19000$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>> Adam wrote:
>>>>>> My current setup is as follows ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43
>>>>>> AMD Athlon XP 1600+
>>>>>> AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
>>>>>> PCI Slot 1: -----
>>>>>> PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M
>>>>>> PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
>>>>>> PCI Slot 4: USB Card
>>>>>> PCI Slot 5: -----
>>>>>> Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem started creeping up last night ...
>>>>>> - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen
>>>>>> - the system freezes when I move the mouse
>>>>>> - something was mildly burning / overheating
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning.
>>>>>> It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.
>>>>>> On one reboot, I got the following message ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "You have not connected the power extension cable to
>>>>>> your Radeon 9800 video card
>>>>>> Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
>>>>>> proper hardware installation !!!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
>>>>>> the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
>>>>>> the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
>>>>>> my guess is that the video card is overheating.
>>>>>> Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because
>>>>>> no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly.
>>>>>> The ATI Control Panel will now exit."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480
>>>>>> It will not take any other resolution.
>>>>> Sounds like the card went bad. However, it can't hurt to uninstall,
>>>>> then install the latest drivers for the card (if it lets you get that
>>>>> far).
>>>>>
>>>> Good idea ... I'll uninstall and reinstall.
>>>>
>>>> I still don't have a good feeling about that
>>>> fan not spinning though. What's the best way to cool that Radeon
>>>> chip?
>>>> Add a card (in Slot 1) with a fan blowing at the AGP video card?
>>>> Is there such a card? Or, am I getting imaginative? ;o)
>>> As Ron mentioned, yes there is a fan mounted on a PCI slot so you blow
>>> cool air on the card. For now, leave the side off the computer and get
>>> a small (or large) fan blowing cool air into the computer. That will
>>> help determine if it's heat related alone, and not a card failure also.
>>>

>> Thanks for the info. I checked with the seller and
>> found out that this video card is still under warranty since
>> I only purchased it around Thanksgiving 2006.
>> And, I can either send it back to the seller or ATI.
>> Is it better to send it directly to ATI?
>>
>> I haven't had a cover on my system for a long time.
>> I don't have any (big / small) fans around. So,
>> I used Dust Off to blow cool air directly on the chip.
>> It helped but only briefly. The system is currently off.
>> I will let it cool before powering it up again.
>> It might work for a minute.
>>

>
> Well, I finally powered up the system. As expected,
> it worked fine for a few minutes. I was even able to
> set the resolution back to the way it was, nice and high.
> So now, I strongly believe that the problem is due to
> insufficient cooling. If I send the video card back to ATI,
> they'll likely replace the fan, which might go bad in
> another 6-8 months and I'm back to square one.
> Hmmm ... what to do ... can't wait to get my hands on
> that PCI VGA cooler now.
>
>

I don't know why you feel that the fan will go out in a few months. I
bought my 9700 Pro new 5 years ago and it has run fine 24x7 since then.
The only problem with overheating I ever had with the card was the
case's ventilation wasn't sufficient, but a PCI slot fan fixed that problem.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help

Adam wrote:
> My current setup is as follows ...
>
> Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43
> AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
> PCI Slot 1: -----
> PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M
> PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
> PCI Slot 4: USB Card
> PCI Slot 5: -----
> Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition
>
>
> The problem started creeping up last night ...
> - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen
> - the system freezes when I move the mouse
> - something was mildly burning / overheating
>
>
> I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning.
> It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.
> On one reboot, I got the following message ...
>
> "You have not connected the power extension cable to
> your Radeon 9800 video card
> Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for
> proper hardware installation !!!"
>
> After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,
> the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that
> the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,
> my guess is that the video card is overheating.
> Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?
>
> Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...
>
> "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because
> no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly.
> The ATI Control Panel will now exit."
>
> And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480
> It will not take any other resolution.


Look at :
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/...r_install.html


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