Nvidia in a heap of trouble. Not good for competition!

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First of One <root@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>Keep in mind Charlie is an Inquirer reject turned full-time AMD fanboi.
>Seriously, who is going to buy a GTX285 now when a much better-performing HD
>5870 exists?

I've just ordered a GTX275 because CUDA seems so much less painful
than ATI's GPGPU solution, but I'm obviously not the intended market;
and it was a 275, and would have been a 5850, because I'm buying by
price-per-ALU.

Though I doubt I'll actually program the 275 any more than I did the
GeForce Ti4400 that I bought thinking it was for the same purpose; at
least the interface by which I won't get round to programming it is
somewhat more convenient.

Tom

"First of One" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> More rational look in response to Charlie's "news":
> http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3659

I think the author is underestimating the extent to which Nvidia has ****ed
its partners off. The HPs and Dells of this world severely dislike being
forced to shell out millions to cover somebody else's major - and
foreseeable - ****up. I'm seeing a lot more ATI options on the big laptop
manufacturers' web sites and that's got to hurt Nividia in the long run.

I always considered the HPs and Dells to be partially to blame for the
****up. It's what they get for not doing integration testing on their own
notebooks, inexcusable given how marginal the notebook cooling solutions
usually are. Of course, the HPs and Dells may not feel that way.

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"DRS" <drs@removethis.ihug.com.au> wrote in message
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> "First of One" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:uNWdnQrTQcwJ-UjXnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com
>> More rational look in response to Charlie's "news":
>> http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3659
>
> I think the author is underestimating the extent to which Nvidia has
> ****ed its partners off. The HPs and Dells of this world severely dislike
> being forced to shell out millions to cover somebody else's major - and
> foreseeable - ****up. I'm seeing a lot more ATI options on the big laptop
> manufacturers' web sites and that's got to hurt Nividia in the long run.

* First of One:
> I always considered the HPs and Dells to be partially to blame for the
> ****up. It's what they get for not doing integration testing on their own
> notebooks, inexcusable given how marginal the notebook cooling solutions
> usually are. Of course, the HPs and Dells may not feel that way.

Not every problem can be uncovered by standard "integration testing",
and the cooling solutions in their notebooks very likely keep the GPUs
within the specifications provided by Nvidia. If you want your notebook
to be on the market while its hardware is still current and if you want
to be able to sell it at a price that is attractive to the market then
there is a limit how much and how long you can test something. Also,
flaws like the G84/G86 problem usually only show up after a certain
(varying) amount of time, and even then not in every unit.

Benjamin

* Thomas Womack:

> I've just ordered a GTX275 because CUDA seems so much less painful
> than ATI's GPGPU solution,

Unless you have CUDA applications that you need right now there is not
much sense to go for CUDA as it's future doesn't look really bright,
considering that OpenCL is at the door and the way for the GPGPU future.

Benjamin