Someone wrote:
> If you just bought one, how's the TV Tuna 600 USB/PCI or 650
> USB/PCIe now that they've come out?
>
Well, it's been shipped apparently, but it won't arrive until tomorrow
at the earliest and I'm headed out of town tomorrow. It'll be Sunday
night before I can install it. I'll probably have something to report
then. Something good, I hope.
"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xeudnednitNCSovanZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@rcn.net...
> Someone wrote:
>> If you just bought one, how's the TV Tuna 600 USB/PCI or 650
>> USB/PCIe now that they've come out?
>>
>
> Well, it's been shipped apparently, but it won't arrive until tomorrow at
> the earliest and I'm headed out of town tomorrow. It'll be Sunday night
> before I can install it. I'll probably have something to report then.
> Something good, I hope.
>
> --
> Bill Anderson
>
> I am the Mighty Favog
Bill:
What I would like to know is this: How does the FM tuner work? Since you
only have two antenna connectors, one for analogue and one for digital, how
would you receive cable television and off-air FM at the same time? You
could use a splitter in reverse feeding the cable coax and FM antenna coax
to the analogue connector, but that would cause interference for all the
lower cable channels. ( I fight this as it is because the cable feed at my
place is in the dumps - ghosting - cross modulation distortion.)
This board looks great for off-air FM and ATSC reception ( where we are
headed for.) Or cable and off-air ATSC reception. I sure hope the program
is enjoyable to use. I'm anxious to here what you think of the system.
In article <13hnokok0hskle1@corp.supernews.com>, "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:xeudnednitNCSovanZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@rcn.net.. .
>> Someone wrote:
>>> If you just bought one, how's the TV Tuna 600 USB/PCI or 650
>>> USB/PCIe now that they've come out?
>>>
>>
>> Well, it's been shipped apparently, but it won't arrive until tomorrow at
>> the earliest and I'm headed out of town tomorrow. It'll be Sunday night
>> before I can install it. I'll probably have something to report then.
>> Something good, I hope.
>>
>> --
>> Bill Anderson
>>
>> I am the Mighty Favog
>
>Bill:
>
>What I would like to know is this: How does the FM tuner work? Since you
>only have two antenna connectors, one for analogue and one for digital, how
>would you receive cable television and off-air FM at the same time? You
>could use a splitter in reverse feeding the cable coax and FM antenna coax
>to the analogue connector, but that would cause interference for all the
>lower cable channels. ( I fight this as it is because the cable feed at my
>place is in the dumps - ghosting - cross modulation distortion.)
>
>This board looks great for off-air FM and ATSC reception ( where we are
>headed for.) Or cable and off-air ATSC reception. I sure hope the program
>is enjoyable to use. I'm anxious to here what you think of the system.
>
>William
>
>
FM radio uses the same antenna as OTA TV reception.
William wrote:
> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:xeudnednitNCSovanZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@rcn.net...
>> Someone wrote:
>>> If you just bought one, how's the TV Tuna 600 USB/PCI or 650
>>> USB/PCIe now that they've come out?
>>>
>> Well, it's been shipped apparently, but it won't arrive until tomorrow at
>> the earliest and I'm headed out of town tomorrow. It'll be Sunday night
>> before I can install it. I'll probably have something to report then.
>> Something good, I hope.
>>
>> --
>> Bill Anderson
>>
>> I am the Mighty Favog
>
> Bill:
>
> What I would like to know is this: How does the FM tuner work? Since you
> only have two antenna connectors, one for analogue and one for digital, how
> would you receive cable television and off-air FM at the same time?
I'm not sure. I've just plugged it all in and installed the Catalyst
Multimedia Center and I'm just beginning to figure it out. The top
antenna connector appears to be only for over the air (OTA) digital
channels. I can pick up OTA HD-TV channels using that input and the
little antenna that came with my HDTV Wonder a few years ago. No TV
antenna came with the 650 PCIe. The box did include an FM radio antenna
identical to the one that was provided with my AGP All in Wonder (AIW)
9600 XP.
But ....
The FM radio antenna seems to work only when it's connected to the
second antenna connector, and of course that's the connector that's
required for cable TV. So right now I have two cables ******* into my
connectors. One is an antenna for OTA digital TV only, and the other is
for connected to my cable box. I get no FM radio when I can't connect
the FM radio antenna.
Actually, I just realized that's not quite true. Somehow I'm picking up
something that appears to be radio via my cable TV connection. When I
scanned my cable for radio (thinking I was scanning OTA) I picked up a
few apparent radio stations. They are at 87.8 and 107.8, and after
listening to them for a few minutes, I've decided they must be related
to my cable TV provider -- RCN of Washington, DC. I don't know exactly
what they are. It'll take a bit more listening to figure that out.
These stations are coming in via the cable TV connection, not the OTA
connection.
The cable TV picture is much improved from what I was getting with the
AIW 9600. It's a very noticeable improvement.
I am able to view video from a VCR using a composite connection. I
assume I'll be able to record that video too.
I tried viewing closed captions for the Boston/Cleveland game this
evening and they appeared just fine. But when I recorded a clip and
played it back, I couldn't see the captions.
So far I haven't been able to figure out how to reduce the size of the
video to postage-stamp size and put it in a corner and activate
thru-view as I could with the AIW. I can activate thru-view, but the
image is much larger than I'd like.
GMAN wrote:
> In article <13hnokok0hskle1@corp.supernews.com>, "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote:
>> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:xeudnednitNCSovanZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@rcn.net...
>>> Someone wrote:
>>>> If you just bought one, how's the TV Tuna 600 USB/PCI or 650
>>>> USB/PCIe now that they've come out?
>>>>
>>> Well, it's been shipped apparently, but it won't arrive until tomorrow at
>>> the earliest and I'm headed out of town tomorrow. It'll be Sunday night
>>> before I can install it. I'll probably have something to report then.
>>> Something good, I hope.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bill Anderson
>>>
>>> I am the Mighty Favog
>> Bill:
>>
>> What I would like to know is this: How does the FM tuner work? Since you
>> only have two antenna connectors, one for analogue and one for digital, how
>> would you receive cable television and off-air FM at the same time? You
>> could use a splitter in reverse feeding the cable coax and FM antenna coax
>> to the analogue connector, but that would cause interference for all the
>> lower cable channels. ( I fight this as it is because the cable feed at my
>> place is in the dumps - ghosting - cross modulation distortion.)
>>
>> This board looks great for off-air FM and ATSC reception ( where we are
>> headed for.) Or cable and off-air ATSC reception. I sure hope the program
>> is enjoyable to use. I'm anxious to here what you think of the system.
>>
>> William
>>
>>
> FM radio uses the same antenna as OTA TV reception.
Not in my brief experience. It seems to use the same input as cable TV.
In article <5c6dnVhQPcCZioHanZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@rcn.net>, Bill Anderson <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote:
>GMAN wrote:
>> In article <13hnokok0hskle1@corp.supernews.com>, "William"
> <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote:
>>> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:xeudnednitNCSovanZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@rcn.net...
>>>> Someone wrote:
>>>>> If you just bought one, how's the TV Tuna 600 USB/PCI or 650
>>>>> USB/PCIe now that they've come out?
>>>>>
>>>> Well, it's been shipped apparently, but it won't arrive until tomorrow at
>>>> the earliest and I'm headed out of town tomorrow. It'll be Sunday night
>>>> before I can install it. I'll probably have something to report then.
>>>> Something good, I hope.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bill Anderson
>>>>
>>>> I am the Mighty Favog
>>> Bill:
>>>
>>> What I would like to know is this: How does the FM tuner work? Since you
>>> only have two antenna connectors, one for analogue and one for digital, how
>>> would you receive cable television and off-air FM at the same time? You
>>> could use a splitter in reverse feeding the cable coax and FM antenna coax
>>> to the analogue connector, but that would cause interference for all the
>>> lower cable channels. ( I fight this as it is because the cable feed at my
>>> place is in the dumps - ghosting - cross modulation distortion.)
>>>
>>> This board looks great for off-air FM and ATSC reception ( where we are
>>> headed for.) Or cable and off-air ATSC reception. I sure hope the program
>>> is enjoyable to use. I'm anxious to here what you think of the system.
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>>
>> FM radio uses the same antenna as OTA TV reception.
>
>Not in my brief experience. It seems to use the same input as cable TV.
>
>
I was speaking in general terms. A roof top antenna for OTA tv is the same
type of antenna one would use for FM radio. If the FM radio transmitters are
all over the place, then you'd want a omnidirectional one. If the FM stations
are all on one hilltop like they are here in Salt Lake City, Utah, the a
unidirectional antenna is fine.
"GMAN" <glenzabr@nospam.xmission.com> wrote in message
news:ffhch5$b52$1@news.xmission.com...
> In article <5c6dnVhQPcCZioHanZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@rcn.net>, Bill Anderson
> <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>GMAN wrote:
>>> In article <13hnokok0hskle1@corp.supernews.com>, "William"
>> <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote:
>>>> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:xeudnednitNCSovanZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@rcn.net...
>>>>> Someone wrote:
>>>>>> If you just bought one, how's the TV Tuna 600 USB/PCI or 650
>>>>>> USB/PCIe now that they've come out?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it's been shipped apparently, but it won't arrive until tomorrow
>>>>> at
>>>>> the earliest and I'm headed out of town tomorrow. It'll be Sunday
>>>>> night
>>>>> before I can install it. I'll probably have something to report then.
>>>>> Something good, I hope.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bill Anderson
>>>>>
>>>>> I am the Mighty Favog
>>>> Bill:
>>>>
>>>> What I would like to know is this: How does the FM tuner work? Since
>>>> you
>>>> only have two antenna connectors, one for analogue and one for digital,
>>>> how
>>>> would you receive cable television and off-air FM at the same time?
>>>> You
>>>> could use a splitter in reverse feeding the cable coax and FM antenna
>>>> coax
>>>> to the analogue connector, but that would cause interference for all
>>>> the
>>>> lower cable channels. ( I fight this as it is because the cable feed
>>>> at my
>>>> place is in the dumps - ghosting - cross modulation distortion.)
>>>>
>>>> This board looks great for off-air FM and ATSC reception ( where we are
>>>> headed for.) Or cable and off-air ATSC reception. I sure hope the
>>>> program
>>>> is enjoyable to use. I'm anxious to here what you think of the system.
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>>
>>>>
>>> FM radio uses the same antenna as OTA TV reception.
>>
>>Not in my brief experience. It seems to use the same input as cable TV.
>>
>>
> I was speaking in general terms. A roof top antenna for OTA tv is the same
> type of antenna one would use for FM radio. If the FM radio transmitters
> are
> all over the place, then you'd want a omnidirectional one. If the FM
> stations
> are all on one hilltop like they are here in Salt Lake City, Utah, the a
> unidirectional antenna is fine.
>
OTAtv = Cable = FM. All the same analogue connector. That's the problem.
You get to choose only one at a time. It would be great if the local cable
company re-broadcasted the local FM channels. Not in my area. It's cable,
or it's off-air TV/FM.
Anyways, lets get down to the important stuff. When the Dallas Cowboys
Cheerleaders are strutting their stuff, does that 3d comb filter make things
perky?
In article <13hpod07ag2q164@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@pacifier.com
says...
>
>
<snip>
> Anyways, lets get down to the important stuff. When the Dallas Cowboys
> Cheerleaders are strutting their stuff, does that 3d comb filter make things
> perky?
>
> William
Doesn't that require transmission of a subject that's perky to begin
with?
"William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
news:13hnokok0hskle1@corp.supernews.com...
> What I would like to know is this: How does the FM tuner work? Since you
> only have two antenna connectors, one for analogue and one for digital,
> how would you receive cable television and off-air FM at the same time?
> You could use a splitter in reverse feeding the cable coax and FM antenna
> coax to the analogue connector, but that would cause interference for all
> the lower cable channels. ( I fight this as it is because the cable feed
> at my place is in the dumps - ghosting - cross modulation distortion.)
>
> This board looks great for off-air FM and ATSC reception ( where we are
> headed for.) Or cable and off-air ATSC reception. I sure hope the
> program is enjoyable to use. I'm anxious to here what you think of the
> system.
>
> William
>
That is the confusion that many don't understand. These new cards present
much confusion to those of us with existing 650 cards. On the version of the
ATI Theater 650 that I bought last year around this time there are TWO cable
connectors. ONE for analog cable TV the other is for digital OTA and FM.
Using an antenna for the OTA digital connection I can receive HDTV (a few
channels) and many FM stations without issue. The new cards that VisionTek
is selling that are QAM capable are a different matter. There is much
speculation as to how or even if the QAM actually works, and more
importantly on which operating systems. There seems to be some question if
you must have Vista to view QAM, and the marketing materials thus far are
nice and vague on the issue. So if QAM doesn't actually work (or the cable
company doesn't send out those signals) than you are falling back to the OTA
HDTV antenna's for reception at which point the FM reception is no longer an
issue. Some people have indicated that they get the audio only music
channels from their cable company via QAM, others don't its a hit or miss
thing that is dependant on the local cable company one uses.
The problem with the new boards are the marketing materials from ATI and
Visiontek are contradictory and or vague at to what is supported; QAM and
Windows XP or the true dual tuning - analog/analog or digital/digital for
example. Then there is the fact that the product matrix
(http://ati.amd.com/products/tunermatrix.html) indicates that the single
tuner 650's supports QAM (which has to be typo as my 650 from last year
never indicated QAM support on the box or in any of the included materials).
There is even one poster over on Rage3D.com who said his single tuner
Visiontek 650 box listed QAM support.
One huge problem with the existing 650 and the CMC (Catalyst Media Center)
software, that has cropped up for some, is that it appears the recording of
720p HDTV is broken. The audio becomes out of sync (severely at times) from
the video after 25 minutes of recording. ATI is aware of it but has yet to
issue a fix. There is no indication, as of now, if this issue has been fixed
in the version of CMC that is shipping with these new cards.
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