does any version of MMC work???

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:10:57 -0500, "First of One" <root@127.0.0.1>
wrote:

>"hexHead®" <hexHead@msn.com> wrote in message
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>> wow, that was the worst install yet....
>> after spending another whole day screwing around, looking for files,
>> deleting and reinstalling ATI crap, the MMC was totally hosed after
>> following the instructions I found here. - Modules I didn't want (DVD,
>> File Player, etc) were installed anyway, even though I specifically
>> said not to. All I wanted was TV and FM. Once installed, the
>> Configuration tool contained entries for modules that were NOT
>> installed, yet TV and FM were not to be found anywhere (Why am I not
>> surprised?) - naturally, clicking on either the TV or FM icons in the
>> program group did nothing. <sigh>
>
>Ugh, that was unfortunate. Sorry for putting you through this. Never bother
>with Driverheaven posts again... Good to see you had found a better app,
>though.

aw hell, not your fault, in fact this is exactly what I've come to
expect with ATI products - at least they're consistent

>
>
>> ..and of course I wound up with that stupid white square in the upper
>> left corner I've heard about. who writes this software, a buncha
>> drug-impaired monkeys?
>
>That's Sir RenderMonkey (tm) to you... Seriously, though, notice how nVidia
>doesn't make this kind of combo graphics cards with tuner/capture
>capabilities. The nVidia product planners probably thought version-matching
>all the multimedia software (which progresses at a slower pace than the core
>graphics drivers) wasn't worth the headaches.

yea well, I think it's time to just to just purge the ATI demon and
start over, chalk it up to a lesson learned. but still you can't help
but wonder, with hardware and its accompanying drivers and software
being soooo consistently bad - does anyone from ATI actually use their
own products?

hexHead® wrote:
> running an AIW 2006 PCI-E on Windows XP SP2
>
> Grrrr
> Is there any combination of Catalyst and MMC drivers that actually
> work?
>
> I've uninstalled and reinstalled so many times I could puke...
> (ran the AtiCimUn.exe uninstaller, ran Driver Cleaner Pro, and even
> did the ol' hunt-n-peck through the registry to make sure all traces
> of ATI-whatever were gone. rebooted ad nauseum)
>
> Specifically, everytime I try and use the TV tuner, I get the same
> "Unable to initialize" error - which is no help at all...
>
> I've tried god-knows-how-many combinations going back to Catalyst 5.4
> & MMC 9.03 - no luck
>
> For whatever reason, I cant seem to get rid of the ATI T200 Unified
> AVStream Driver and revert back to the old WDM's - how is that
> accomplished?? Is that the problem?

I feel your pain, brother (pours hexHead a shot of tequila)...

My Radeon 9800 AIW eventually got to the point where the tuner would
work with any software BUT MMC, no matter what combination of
drivers/MMC versions I tried. I went through all the same
removal/cleaning steps you did, without success. Ultimately I decided
to just buck up for a copy of BeyondTV, and then decided to get one of
their bundles that included the Hauppauge HVR-1600 tuner card, which has
both standard analog *and* ATSC hi-def tuners... now my AiW performs
simple display-adapter duty on some older version of the Radeon
drivers... and I occasionally use it to feed Windows Media Encoder to
stream hockey games that my out-of-town buddy can't get on his local
satellite feed

In the middle of all this, I discovered through other programs'
complaints that DirectDraw isn't working on my system, and I suspect
this may have been related to MMC's issues starting up. I have yet to
get it working, through another extensive series of
uninstall/clean/manually-clean/reinstall bull**** and fear it may come
down to simple formatting my drive and installing everything clean...
possibly with the addition of a new Nvidia card, as I've quite had it
with anything ATI.

hexHead® wrote:

> yea well, I think it's time to just to just purge the ATI demon and
> start over, chalk it up to a lesson learned. but still you can't help
> but wonder, with hardware and its accompanying drivers and software
> being soooo consistently bad - does anyone from ATI actually use their
> own products?

I emailed them once and asked them that exact question... the response
assured me that ALL their workstations there use ATI cards, always with
the latest drivers, and of course, everything always works just fine.

I'd been putting ATI cards in my family's computers for years, mostly
because I really liked their OpenGL support... when I recently rebuilt
my wife's computer, I put an nVidia card in it. I'm through with ATI
forever.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:27:24 GMT, Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com>
wrote:

>hexHead® wrote:
>
>> yea well, I think it's time to just to just purge the ATI demon and
>> start over, chalk it up to a lesson learned. but still you can't help
>> but wonder, with hardware and its accompanying drivers and software
>> being soooo consistently bad - does anyone from ATI actually use their
>> own products?
>
>I emailed them once and asked them that exact question... the response
>assured me that ALL their workstations there use ATI cards, always with
>the latest drivers, and of course, everything always works just fine.


heh, I know what you mean. it's a little like listening to those sales
figures for Vista coming from Microsoft... what do you expect them to
say?


>
>I'd been putting ATI cards in my family's computers for years, mostly
>because I really liked their OpenGL support... when I recently rebuilt
>my wife's computer, I put an nVidia card in it. I'm through with ATI
>forever.


count me in as well.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:27:24 GMT, Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com>
wrote:

>hexHead® wrote:
>
>> yea well, I think it's time to just to just purge the ATI demon and
>> start over, chalk it up to a lesson learned. but still you can't help
>> but wonder, with hardware and its accompanying drivers and software
>> being soooo consistently bad - does anyone from ATI actually use their
>> own products?
>
>I emailed them once and asked them that exact question... the response
>assured me that ALL their workstations there use ATI cards, always with
>the latest drivers, and of course, everything always works just fine.
>
>I'd been putting ATI cards in my family's computers for years, mostly
>because I really liked their OpenGL support... when I recently rebuilt
>my wife's computer, I put an nVidia card in it. I'm through with ATI
>forever.

well the AIW is in the garbage and I sprung for a GEForce 8500GT

plugged the sucker in and it immediately found and properly identified
and configured not only my Acer 1916W widescreen, but also a 15"
Polaroid flat screen HDTV that I have hooked up as a second monitor.
What amazed me was how it found and identified that Polaroid, even
referring to it by the correct model #. I don't think it was even
turned on at the time.

A sad commentary of the times we live in when you find yourself being
surprised, even amazed that a product actually works as advertised...

never again ATI.. never again.

"hexHead®" <hexHead@msn.com> wrote in message
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> well the AIW is in the garbage

Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
without PCI-E).

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:11:34 -0500, "Mercury" <nobody@nospam.null>
wrote:

>"hexHead®" <hexHead@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
>> well the AIW is in the garbage
>
>Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
>for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
>without PCI-E).
>

I wouldn't do that to somebody...
trust me, it's better off in a landfill.

"hexHead®" <hexHead@msn.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:11:34 -0500, "Mercury" <nobody@nospam.null>
> wrote:
>
> >"hexHead®" <hexHead@msn.com> wrote in message
> >news5s1q3l95agpeluca4bb4vvrsb9rtsujn7@4ax.com.. .
> >
> >> well the AIW is in the garbage
> >
> >Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
> >for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
> >without PCI-E).
> >
>
> I wouldn't do that to somebody...
> trust me, it's better off in a landfill.


Would be embarrassing if someone else got it to work?

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:58:49 -0500, "T Shadow"
<blackhole@nowhere.void.com> wrote:

>"hexHead®" <hexHead@msn.com> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:11:34 -0500, "Mercury" <nobody@nospam.null>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"hexHead®" <hexHead@msn.com> wrote in message
>> >news5s1q3l95agpeluca4bb4vvrsb9rtsujn7@4ax.com.. .
>> >
>> >> well the AIW is in the garbage
>> >
>> >Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
>> >for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
>> >without PCI-E).
>> >
>>
>> I wouldn't do that to somebody...
>> trust me, it's better off in a landfill.
>
>
>Would be embarrassing if someone else got it to work?

oh i see, you know something the rest of us don't.
care to share mr. wizard?

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:58:49 -0500, "T Shadow"
<blackhole@nowhere.void.com> wrote:

>"hexHead®" <hexHead@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:2ae2q35np9em8pu5bk1gmou8k94emf2tnv@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:11:34 -0500, "Mercury" <nobody@nospam.null>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"hexHead®" <hexHead@msn.com> wrote in message
>> >news5s1q3l95agpeluca4bb4vvrsb9rtsujn7@4ax.com.. .
>> >
>> >> well the AIW is in the garbage
>> >
>> >Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
>> >for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
>> >without PCI-E).
>> >
>>
>> I wouldn't do that to somebody...
>> trust me, it's better off in a landfill.
>
>
>Would be embarrassing if someone else got it to work?


what no reply?
****, I was anxiously awaiting your step by step procedure to get this
card to work perfectly.
perfectly, hell, I'll settle for working as advertised.