Updated my P5W DH from an E6600 to an E6850

As you all know the prices on Intel's cpu's had a large price cut last
month. So I waited for NewEgg to offer a good sail on the CPU I wanted to
get when I first put this system together but couldn't afford it at the
time.

I decided to take the old E6600 out and put the new E6850 in and see what
would happen. All went quite well, better than expected. The only thing I
noticed is that I got a "Intel CPU uCode loading error" when I booted the
computer. All seemed to run well, and I was pleased.

I logged onto ASUS's web site for the mobo and looked up the error code and
found out that I had to update my bios to a newer version than I had
running. I was running 1901, and I needed at least 2103 for this cpu. I had
2602 on hand and ran AsusUpdate and installed 2602.

The computer booted up without the error message, but it took a long time
and booted up at 2.4 GHz, and my ram was running at 266 mhz. After two more
boots, I realized that the resetting of bios lost my ram voltage setting
for the 4 gig of Crucial Ballistix ram that was in the system. I set the ram
voltage to 2.0 volts, (it's rated for 2.2v) and it booted OK.

The CPU is running at 3001.4 MHz, the FSB is at 1334.0 Mhz, and the ram is
at 416.8 Mhz, (or 834 Mhz DDR2). I've read that the P5W DH uses the
975x/ICH7R chip set which is rated at 1066 FSB and ddr2-800 max, so it's
getting a good workout at these frequencies.

Now I am wondering if I can get anymore out of this mobo. I would love to
go another 5 or 10 % overclock on the CPU. I wonder if the P5W can take the
beating.

William

"William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
> The CPU is running at 3001.4 MHz, the FSB is at 1334.0 Mhz, and the ram is
> at 416.8 Mhz, (or 834 Mhz DDR2). I've read that the P5W DH uses the
> 975x/ICH7R chip set which is rated at 1066 FSB and ddr2-800 max, so it's
> getting a good workout at these frequencies.
>

Crysis is running with no visible slow down now. All settings on high, (no
AA) and all runs smoothly after the update. I'm running an ATI HD3870 GPU
with the C2D E6850 cpu, 4 gig of ram, sata HD, Windows XP sr2b with updates.

It's been a long time since a computer of mine could keep up with the most
demanding game on the market. I'll enjoy the next few months until
something even more demanding comes out.

William

That's a hell allot of power to keep a game happy.

"William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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> As you all know the prices on Intel's cpu's had a large price cut last
> month. So I waited for NewEgg to offer a good sail on the CPU I wanted to
> get when I first put this system together but couldn't afford it at the
> time.
>
> I decided to take the old E6600 out and put the new E6850 in and see what
> would happen. All went quite well, better than expected. The only thing
> I noticed is that I got a "Intel CPU uCode loading error" when I booted
> the computer. All seemed to run well, and I was pleased.
>
> I logged onto ASUS's web site for the mobo and looked up the error code
> and found out that I had to update my bios to a newer version than I had
> running. I was running 1901, and I needed at least 2103 for this cpu. I
> had 2602 on hand and ran AsusUpdate and installed 2602.
>
> The computer booted up without the error message, but it took a long time
> and booted up at 2.4 GHz, and my ram was running at 266 mhz. After two
> more boots, I realized that the resetting of bios lost my ram voltage
> setting for the 4 gig of Crucial Ballistix ram that was in the system. I
> set the ram voltage to 2.0 volts, (it's rated for 2.2v) and it booted OK.
>
> The CPU is running at 3001.4 MHz, the FSB is at 1334.0 Mhz, and the ram is
> at 416.8 Mhz, (or 834 Mhz DDR2). I've read that the P5W DH uses the
> 975x/ICH7R chip set which is rated at 1066 FSB and ddr2-800 max, so it's
> getting a good workout at these frequencies.
>
> Now I am wondering if I can get anymore out of this mobo. I would love to
> go another 5 or 10 % overclock on the CPU. I wonder if the P5W can take
> the beating.
>
> William
>
>
>

I'm just wondering. Why go with the E6850 when for a few bucks more ($199
vs $185), you could have gone with the E8400 Wolfdale. You get a much
cooler running cpu with the 45nm core, a higher stock speed of 3.0GHz, and a
6MB L2 cache. The Wolfdale is by far and away a better OC'ing proc than the
E6850. And the new ASUS BIOS for the P5WDH does accommodate the new 45nm
architecture. Doesn't make sense.

Ron

"William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
news:ns-dnV9_VPcaYIHVnZ2dnUVZ_h6hnZ2d@palinacquisition...
> As you all know the prices on Intel's cpu's had a large price cut last
> month. So I waited for NewEgg to offer a good sail on the CPU I wanted to
> get when I first put this system together but couldn't afford it at the
> time.
>
> I decided to take the old E6600 out and put the new E6850 in and see what
> would happen. All went quite well, better than expected. The only thing
> I noticed is that I got a "Intel CPU uCode loading error" when I booted
> the computer. All seemed to run well, and I was pleased.
>

I did a similar thing - except I did the E8400 and it works really well
the nifty thing is I put it 4 gigs of fast ram and the board automatically
configued the fsb to 1333MHz
and it's running great! (and cooler too!)

"Ron Krebs" <rkrebs11@verizon.net> wrote:

> "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message

>> The CPU is running at 3001.4 MHz, the FSB is at 1334.0 Mhz, and
>> the ram is at 416.8 Mhz, (or 834 Mhz DDR2). I've read that the
>> P5W DH uses the 975x/ICH7R chip set which is rated at 1066 FSB
>> and ddr2-800 max, so it's getting a good workout at these
>> frequencies.
>>
>> Now I am wondering if I can get anymore out of this mobo. I
>> would love to go another 5 or 10 % overclock on the CPU. I
>> wonder if the P5W can take the beating.

> I'm just wondering. Why go with the E6850 when for a few bucks
> more ($199 vs $185), you could have gone with the E8400 Wolfdale.
> You get a much cooler running cpu with the 45nm core, a higher
> stock speed of 3.0GHz, and a 6MB L2 cache. The Wolfdale is by far
> and away a better OC'ing proc than the E6850. And the new ASUS
> BIOS for the P5WDH does accommodate the new 45nm architecture.
> Doesn't make sense.

As per his own follow-up, it's excellent for his applications.

After lots of research, the only problem I had with the E8000 series
is the fact that they have been out of stock frequently. There might
be other valid explanations, but seems to me Intel has trouble
producing them. Of course eventually they'll perfect the fabrication
process.

Also, the price for Intel's 3GHz+ CPUs is greatly inflated, maybe
because AMD doesn't have its act together. With AMD coming back, I
expect not long from now, inexpensive 3GHz+ quad core chips will be
available. The E6850 will be more than satisfactory until then.

"Ron Krebs" <rkrebs11@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
> news:ns-dnV9_VPcaYIHVnZ2dnUVZ_h6hnZ2d@palinacquisition...
>> As you all know the prices on Intel's cpu's had a large price cut last
>> month. So I waited for NewEgg to offer a good sail on the CPU I wanted
>> to get when I first put this system together but couldn't afford it at
>> the time.
>>
>> I decided to take the old E6600 out and put the new E6850 in and see what
>> would happen. All went quite well, better than expected. The only thing
>> I noticed is that I got a "Intel CPU uCode loading error" when I booted
>> the computer. All seemed to run well, and I was pleased.
>>
>> I logged onto ASUS's web site for the mobo and looked up the error code
>> and found out that I had to update my bios to a newer version than I had
>> running. I was running 1901, and I needed at least 2103 for this cpu. I
>> had 2602 on hand and ran AsusUpdate and installed 2602.
>>
>> The computer booted up without the error message, but it took a long time
>> and booted up at 2.4 GHz, and my ram was running at 266 mhz. After two
>> more boots, I realized that the resetting of bios lost my ram voltage
>> setting for the 4 gig of Crucial Ballistix ram that was in the system. I
>> set the ram voltage to 2.0 volts, (it's rated for 2.2v) and it booted OK.
>>
>> The CPU is running at 3001.4 MHz, the FSB is at 1334.0 Mhz, and the ram
>> is at 416.8 Mhz, (or 834 Mhz DDR2). I've read that the P5W DH uses the
>> 975x/ICH7R chip set which is rated at 1066 FSB and ddr2-800 max, so it's
>> getting a good workout at these frequencies.
>>
>> Now I am wondering if I can get anymore out of this mobo. I would love
>> to go another 5 or 10 % overclock on the CPU. I wonder if the P5W can
>> take the beating.
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>
> I'm just wondering. Why go with the E6850 when for a few bucks more ($199
> vs $185), you could have gone with the E8400 Wolfdale. You get a much
> cooler running cpu with the 45nm core, a higher stock speed of 3.0GHz, and
> a 6MB L2 cache. The Wolfdale is by far and away a better OC'ing proc than
> the E6850. And the new ASUS BIOS for the P5WDH does accommodate the new
> 45nm architecture. Doesn't make sense.
>
> Ron
>

After reviewing the reviews on Newegg, many people came to the same
conclusion as I did. I can go with an E6850 and have it in my hands in 3
days, or I can go with the E8400 and wait a few weeks (hopefully) for the
back-orders to be filled.

"William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ron Krebs" <rkrebs11@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:5bkTj.2600$Eh7.467@trndny01...
>>
>> "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
>> news:ns-dnV9_VPcaYIHVnZ2dnUVZ_h6hnZ2d@palinacquisition...
>>> As you all know the prices on Intel's cpu's had a large price cut last
>>> month. So I waited for NewEgg to offer a good sail on the CPU I wanted
>>> to get when I first put this system together but couldn't afford it at
>>> the time.
>>>
>>> I decided to take the old E6600 out and put the new E6850 in and see
>>> what would happen. All went quite well, better than expected. The only
>>> thing I noticed is that I got a "Intel CPU uCode loading error" when I
>>> booted the computer. All seemed to run well, and I was pleased.
>>>
>>> I logged onto ASUS's web site for the mobo and looked up the error code
>>> and found out that I had to update my bios to a newer version than I had
>>> running. I was running 1901, and I needed at least 2103 for this cpu. I
>>> had 2602 on hand and ran AsusUpdate and installed 2602.
>>>
>>> The computer booted up without the error message, but it took a long
>>> time and booted up at 2.4 GHz, and my ram was running at 266 mhz. After
>>> two more boots, I realized that the resetting of bios lost my ram
>>> voltage setting for the 4 gig of Crucial Ballistix ram that was in the
>>> system. I set the ram voltage to 2.0 volts, (it's rated for 2.2v) and it
>>> booted OK.
>>>
>>> The CPU is running at 3001.4 MHz, the FSB is at 1334.0 Mhz, and the ram
>>> is at 416.8 Mhz, (or 834 Mhz DDR2). I've read that the P5W DH uses the
>>> 975x/ICH7R chip set which is rated at 1066 FSB and ddr2-800 max, so it's
>>> getting a good workout at these frequencies.
>>>
>>> Now I am wondering if I can get anymore out of this mobo. I would love
>>> to go another 5 or 10 % overclock on the CPU. I wonder if the P5W can
>>> take the beating.
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm just wondering. Why go with the E6850 when for a few bucks more
>> ($199 vs $185), you could have gone with the E8400 Wolfdale. You get a
>> much cooler running cpu with the 45nm core, a higher stock speed of
>> 3.0GHz, and a 6MB L2 cache. The Wolfdale is by far and away a better
>> OC'ing proc than the E6850. And the new ASUS BIOS for the P5WDH does
>> accommodate the new 45nm architecture. Doesn't make sense.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>
> After reviewing the reviews on Newegg, many people came to the same
> conclusion as I did. I can go with an E6850 and have it in my hands in 3
> days, or I can go with the E8400 and wait a few weeks (hopefully) for the
> back-orders to be filled.
>

What are you talking about? The 8400 IS in stock and has been for the last
few weeks. Check the site again.

"Ron Krebs" <rkrebs11@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Ron Krebs" <rkrebs11@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ns-dnV9_VPcaYIHVnZ2dnUVZ_h6hnZ2d@palinacquisition...

<snip>
`
>>> I'm just wondering. Why go with the E6850 when for a few bucks more
>>> ($199 vs $185), you could have gone with the E8400 Wolfdale. You get a
>>> much cooler running cpu with the 45nm core, a higher stock speed of
>>> 3.0GHz, and a 6MB L2 cache. The Wolfdale is by far and away a better
>>> OC'ing proc than the E6850. And the new ASUS BIOS for the P5WDH does
>>> accommodate the new 45nm architecture. Doesn't make sense.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>
>> After reviewing the reviews on Newegg, many people came to the same
>> conclusion as I did. I can go with an E6850 and have it in my hands in 3
>> days, or I can go with the E8400 and wait a few weeks (hopefully) for the
>> back-orders to be filled.
>>
>
> What are you talking about? The 8400 IS in stock and has been for the
> last few weeks. Check the site again.

Did you order this IC? Did you get it on time? Do you have first hand
experience ordering anything that is out of stock with NewEgg? I do. When
I ordered this IC it was well known and documented that the E8400 was in
short supply and unknown when it would be shipped. All you have are words -
no experience. End of story.

You are offering nothing helpful here. Why do you comment?

William

BTW the E6850 and E8400 have the same stock speed.

Ron Krebs wrote:
> "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
> news:2OSdnTG-jvE7lIPVnZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@palinacquisition...
>>
>> "Ron Krebs" <rkrebs11@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:5bkTj.2600$Eh7.467@trndny01...
>>>
>>> "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ns-dnV9_VPcaYIHVnZ2dnUVZ_h6hnZ2d@palinacquisition...
>>>> As you all know the prices on Intel's cpu's had a large price cut
>>>> last month. So I waited for NewEgg to offer a good sail on the
>>>> CPU I wanted to get when I first put this system together but
>>>> couldn't afford it at the time.
>>>>
>>>> I decided to take the old E6600 out and put the new E6850 in and
>>>> see what would happen. All went quite well, better than expected.
>>>> The only thing I noticed is that I got a "Intel CPU uCode loading
>>>> error" when I booted the computer. All seemed to run well, and I
>>>> was pleased. I logged onto ASUS's web site for the mobo and looked
>>>> up the error
>>>> code and found out that I had to update my bios to a newer version
>>>> than I had running. I was running 1901, and I needed at least 2103
>>>> for this cpu. I had 2602 on hand and ran AsusUpdate and installed
>>>> 2602. The computer booted up without the error message, but it took
>>>> a
>>>> long time and booted up at 2.4 GHz, and my ram was running at 266
>>>> mhz. After two more boots, I realized that the resetting of bios
>>>> lost my ram voltage setting for the 4 gig of Crucial Ballistix ram
>>>> that was in the system. I set the ram voltage to 2.0 volts, (it's
>>>> rated for 2.2v) and it booted OK.
>>>>
>>>> The CPU is running at 3001.4 MHz, the FSB is at 1334.0 Mhz, and
>>>> the ram is at 416.8 Mhz, (or 834 Mhz DDR2). I've read that the
>>>> P5W DH uses the 975x/ICH7R chip set which is rated at 1066 FSB and
>>>> ddr2-800 max, so it's getting a good workout at these frequencies.
>>>>
>>>> Now I am wondering if I can get anymore out of this mobo. I would
>>>> love to go another 5 or 10 % overclock on the CPU. I wonder if
>>>> the P5W can take the beating.
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm just wondering. Why go with the E6850 when for a few bucks more
>>> ($199 vs $185), you could have gone with the E8400 Wolfdale. You
>>> get a much cooler running cpu with the 45nm core, a higher stock
>>> speed of 3.0GHz, and a 6MB L2 cache. The Wolfdale is by far and
>>> away a
>>> better OC'ing proc than the E6850. And the new ASUS BIOS for the
>>> P5WDH does accommodate the new 45nm architecture. Doesn't make
>>> sense. Ron
>>>
>>
>> After reviewing the reviews on Newegg, many people came to the same
>> conclusion as I did. I can go with an E6850 and have it in my hands
>> in 3 days, or I can go with the E8400 and wait a few weeks
>> (hopefully) for the back-orders to be filled.
>>
>
> What are you talking about? The 8400 IS in stock and has been for
> the last few weeks. Check the site again.

It's worse than that. I have a E6600 in a Asus P5B-Plus MB that is
easily running at the same FSB and speed as the E6850. He could have
easily just overclocked the E6600 and had the exact same speed; CPU, FSB
and memory, as with the E6850.

"RobV" <robv@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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> Ron Krebs wrote:
>> "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Ron Krebs" <rkrebs11@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "William" <nospam@pacifier.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ns-dnV9_VPcaYIHVnZ2dnUVZ_h6hnZ2d@palinacquisition...

<snip>

> It's worse than that. I have a E6600 in a Asus P5B-Plus MB that is easily
> running at the same FSB and speed as the E6850. He could have easily just
> overclocked the E6600 and had the exact same speed; CPU, FSB and memory,
> as with the E6850.
>

"Easily", I call BS.

If you are running that E6600 at 3 gig, you have an after market cooler
running on it or you are frying that mobo and everything around it,
including the north and south bridges, have the cpu voltage up as well as
the n and s bridges and ram. You do know why Intel rates their processors at
different speeds don't you?

We don't even have the same mobo's. You are comparing apples to oranges and
you know it. All this stuff has been discussed on ASUS' web site for this
mobo and nothing you have said is new to me. You young boys need to move
along and stop trying to sound so special. Tell me something I don't know,
that would be refreshing.