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Old 06-26-2008, 12:51 PM
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Default Supreme FX II - gront panel problem

Hello
At first sorry for my language :P
I have that connector:
Line R, Line L,EAR R, EAR L, GNS, MIC IN, MIC VCC ("together with MIC IN)
How I may connect they for work?
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Old 06-26-2008, 03:11 PM
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bizon wrote:
> Hello
> At first sorry for my language :P
> I have that connector:
> Line R, Line L,EAR R, EAR L, GNS, MIC IN, MIC VCC ("together with MIC
> IN)
> How I may connect they for work?
>
>


The green connector, with 2x5 pin pattern, and one pin that is missing,
is where you connect the audio.

http://pics.computerbase.de/1/8/1/8/7/16.jpg

This is a typical pinout for the 2x5 header. This is what you might
see in an Asus motherboard manual, one without Supreme FX.

Pin Signal Name Pin Signal Name
1 MIC 2 GND
3 MIC Power 4 NC
5 Line Out (R) 6 NC
7 NC <-------------- Missing Pin
9 Line Out (L) 10 NC

Now, using your wiring names, this is how I would wire it. Only five
of the wires are used. As far as I know, the "EAR" signals are the
ones that go to the headphone jack, and that is why I've wired them
to pin 5 and 7. Your "Line R" and "Line L" wires will not be used,
and can be left dangling and unconnected.

Pin Signal Name Pin Signal Name
1 "MIC IN" 2 GND
3 "MIC VCC" 4
5 "EAR R" 6
7 <-------------- Missing Pin
9 "EAR L" 10

In addition, you may want to check the motherboard documentation, for
mention of AC'97 setting. The header wiring shown in the above table,
assumes you set the motherboard up for AC'97 header style, which may
be mentioned in the manual. The best way to search your motherboard
manual, is to download the Acrobat PDF version from the support.asus.com
web site.

If you mention the model name/number of the motherboard, I can look
in the manual and tell you what might work.

Paul
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Old 06-27-2008, 01:20 PM
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I do it like U wrote and it's work! but in only 50%
Header work but microphone not
So i try dont used MIC VCC, only MIC IN, but they dont work

I have manual of my motherboard [p5e] but she didn't have to any info about connection audio front panel

Again sorry 4 language
and thx for help in 50%
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Old 06-27-2008, 06:03 PM
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bizon wrote:
> I do it like U wrote and it's work! but in only 50%
> Header work but microphone not
> So i try dont used MIC VCC, only MIC IN, but they dont work
>
> I have manual of my motherboard [p5e] but she didn't have to any info
> about connection audio front panel
>
> Again sorry 4 language
> and thx for help in 50%
>


Have you selected the microphone, via the sound control panel ?

You have two microphones. The rear of the computer has a
microphone jack. And your front panel has a microphone as well.

First, see if plugging in the front microphone, that it is detected
by the audio wizard. It could be, that you haven't selected
the microphone, via the control panel, and that is why the
input signal is not coming in.

I cannot find a reference on the Asus site, for Supreme FX
pinout, so the pinout I provided is related to the Intel
standard, and is my best *guess* as to the correct pinout
to use. The fact that your headphones work, means three
of the wires are in the correct position. My guess would
be, the other two wire positions are correct, and the problem is
a software problem.

Paul
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Old 06-28-2008, 11:18 AM
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Yes, I selected microphone but it's another problem

Microphone work - header not
I just connect MIC VCC, and microphone work, just like u wrote, ear in position but header doesnt work

black magic...

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Old 06-28-2008, 03:12 PM
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bizon wrote:
> 'ImageShack - Hosting :: aasu3.jpg'
> (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aasu3.jpg)
>
> Yes, I selected microphone but it's another problem
>
> Microphone work - header not
> I just connect MIC VCC, and microphone work, just like u wrote, ear in
> position but header doesnt work
>
> black magic...
>
>


The "MIC VCC" is necessary, as a power source for "electret"
type microphones. For microphones of other types, the MIC VCC
would not need to be connected. But most people leave the
MIC VCC connected at all times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electret_microphone

There should not be an interaction, between EAR_L and EAR_R
and MIC_IN and MIC_VCC. They are connected to two separate
channels on the sound chip. As you say, "black magic",
if one is upsetting the other. The only explanation
I can offer, if one channel works, and the other does
not, is some kind of problem with the sound driver,
and the mapping of ports and functions caused by
the driver.

You should only have five wires connected to the green
2x5 header. The rest of the pins should not have a
connection.

Paul
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:39 AM
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So when I connect VCC, header works good, perfect, microphone dont work
When I not connect VCC, header dont work, microphone work - but quality is bad, just listen Zippyshare.com - test.wav + my voice. It's terrible but thx for help, a lot a lot
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:37 PM
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bizon wrote:
> So when I connect VCC, header works good, perfect, microphone dont work
> When I not connect VCC, header dont work, microphone work - but quality
> is bad, just listen 'Zippyshare.com - test.wav'
> (http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/41170520/file.html) + my voice. It's
> terrible but thx for help, a lot a lot
>
>


I listened to the sound, and that is electrical interference. The
audio cable, between the computer case, and the Supreme FX, is picking
up interference from inside the computer case.

In terms of testing the Supreme FX, could you try plugging
headphones into the rear of the computer ? Does the microphone work
properly when plugged into the rear of the computer ? Maybe the
problem is, that the Supreme FX card is defective in some way.
Verify that the other ports are working properly.

And to do a proper test of the rear ports, you may wish to disconnect
the audio cable going to the green connector. That way, there is no
possibility of interference from the front panel audio cable,
upsetting your testing of the rear ports. The AD1988B CODEC is supposed
to have a 101dB noise floor, so the sound should be pretty
clean.

http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-...s/product.html

Paul
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:28 PM
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Jupi working
I change in BIOS HD AUDIO into AC 97, then reinstalling soundmax
System show me that I using Sound max hd audio but it is not important
It's working
Big thx
Cheers :]

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Old 07-02-2008, 11:34 AM
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bizon wrote:
> Jupi working
> I change in BIOS HD AUDIO into AC 97, then reinstalling soundmax
> System show me that I using Sound max hd audio but it is not important
> It's working
> Big thx
> Cheers :]
>


So a reinstall fixed it.

I wouldn't have expected the installer to be sensitive
to that BIOS setting. I thought that was detected
at runtime.

Paul

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