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  #11  
Old 11-23-2007, 08:07 PM
Han
 
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Default Re: Rearranging Hard disk

Betty Boop <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in news:47472793$0$19982$547a23d3
@news.telebyte.nl:

> Mocht mijn Engels ‚n mijn technische kennis en
> inzicht in computers en systemen inderdaad zo
> slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat d*t de
> reden is dat het w‚rkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk
> wil hebben, niet beantwoord wordt, wil ik het ook
> nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
> In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie.
> Het doet mij ‚cht wat (big smile!) een reactie te
> krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver weg!
>

Sorry dat die "e's' met accent comma's zijn geworden ...
Je engels is prima naar mijn mening! En met als voorbehoedsmiddel
<grinnik> een goed/goede image van de HD, zou ik gewoon aan de gang gaan
met die re-partioning. En gooi die Acer hidden partition maar weg, die kan
je nu toch niet meer gebruiken denk ik. Maar ik zou vooraf de eRecovery
nog wel gebruiken om de system files en de drivers op CD of DVD te zetten.
Je weet nooit!

groetjes vanuit http://radburn.org!
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  #12  
Old 11-24-2007, 03:23 PM
doS
 
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Default Re: Rearranging Hard disk

Ok, heres the deal:
If you have a partion now that has say,40gb of info on it, and you make a
ghost image of that 40gb.if you then shrink your c drive, to lets say, 25gb,
when you restore(ghost of the 40gb) you will have an issue.

"Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
news:47472793$0$19982$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
> Han wrote:
>> Betty Boop <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in
>> news:47461d02$0$24517$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl:
>>> doS wrote:
>>>> I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....
>>>>
>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>> news:474501cc$0$1047$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>> doS wrote:
>>>>>> use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
>>>>>> carry on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:47436e46$0$12005$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>>>> Hi you all,
>>>>>>> I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
>>>>>>> SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
>>>>>>> partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
>>>>> [/]
>>>>>>> I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
>>>>>>> about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
>>>>>>> partition. D:\ will be unchanged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
>>>>>>> anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
>>>>>>> work??
>>>>>>> Angelique
>>>>> doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
>>>>> For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
>>>>> instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
>>>>> the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
>>>>> version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
>>>>> totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
>>>>> measurement, break off the installation after format and than
>>>>> reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
>>>>> I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
>>>>> will I mess up?
>>>>> What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
>>>>> that smaller space to install???
>>>>> The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
>>>>> be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
>>>>> because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
>>>>> backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
>>>>> I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
>>>>> So,... if not, I really won't carry on!
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please help me out with this as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Angelique
>>>>>
>>> Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some
>>> sort of a language problem here.
>>> I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers
>>> language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own
>>> language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I
>>> also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning.
>>> All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so
>>> kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me.
>>>
>>> Angelique

>>
>> I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
>> that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased
>> it.
>>
>> I see several options:
>>
>> FIRST
>> Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
>> MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
>> cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space.
>>
>> SECOND
>> Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that
>> can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is,
>> IF your system works now.
>>
>> THIRD
>> Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
>> Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
>> a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will
>> need, and
>> b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your
>> hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this Vista
>> Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers, especially
>> the wireless).
>> c) erasing the hard drive completely.
>>
>>
>> Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets
>> aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.
>>
>> Groetjes!

>
> Dear Han, beste Han,
>
> Hi!!!
> Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het
> omschrijft.
> Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat
> daar in The States!
>
> Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting
> with the full explanation.
> Let me try to put it this way.
>
> PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version
> Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition
> C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13 gb)
> and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
> ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the goalpartition
> is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more safety) so,
> eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do not have any
> eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still possible to use
> eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media Center. The one on a
> hidden partition.
> Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I
> now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost) system
> backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was working fine.
> That's the situation now!
>
> What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of which
> only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller C: drive
> of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the remaining
> bytes.
>
> The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller
> (!!!!), is:
> a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back the
> complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW
> SMALLER! C: drive???? and
> b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still
> possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive?
> And will it work, of course!!
>
> So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
> (that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
> back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
> Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
> C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.
>
> Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
> systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden
> is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord
> wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
> In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
> (big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver
> weg!
>
> Angelique



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  #13  
Old 11-24-2007, 03:36 PM
Wandering
 
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Default Re: Rearranging Hard disk

It depends on how much data is in the 40 GB image. Usually the image program
lets you set the size of the partition it is restoring to.

You can't fit 40GB into 25GB, as I am sure you are aware. If the image file
is 40GB it will need a larger partition to restore into, assuming it was
compressed in imaging.

Good luck


"doS" <kobo65@hotnosomail.com> wrote in message
news:OrX1j.19$DB7.8@newsfe05.lga...
> Ok, heres the deal:
> If you have a partion now that has say,40gb of info on it, and you make a
> ghost image of that 40gb.if you then shrink your c drive, to lets say,
> 25gb, when you restore(ghost of the 40gb) you will have an issue.
>
> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
> news:47472793$0$19982$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>> Han wrote:
>>> Betty Boop <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in
>>> news:47461d02$0$24517$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl:
>>>> doS wrote:
>>>>> I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....
>>>>>
>>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>>> news:474501cc$0$1047$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>>> doS wrote:
>>>>>>> use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
>>>>>>> carry on...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:47436e46$0$12005$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>>>>> Hi you all,
>>>>>>>> I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
>>>>>>>> SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
>>>>>>>> partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
>>>>>> [/]
>>>>>>>> I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
>>>>>>>> about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
>>>>>>>> partition. D:\ will be unchanged.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
>>>>>>>> anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
>>>>>>>> work??
>>>>>>>> Angelique
>>>>>> doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
>>>>>> For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
>>>>>> instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
>>>>>> the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
>>>>>> version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
>>>>>> totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
>>>>>> measurement, break off the installation after format and than
>>>>>> reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
>>>>>> I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
>>>>>> will I mess up?
>>>>>> What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
>>>>>> that smaller space to install???
>>>>>> The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
>>>>>> be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
>>>>>> because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
>>>>>> backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
>>>>>> I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
>>>>>> So,... if not, I really won't carry on!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please help me out with this as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Angelique
>>>>>>
>>>> Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some
>>>> sort of a language problem here.
>>>> I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers
>>>> language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own
>>>> language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I
>>>> also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning.
>>>> All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so
>>>> kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me.
>>>>
>>>> Angelique
>>>
>>> I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
>>> that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I see several options:
>>>
>>> FIRST
>>> Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
>>> MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
>>> cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space.
>>>
>>> SECOND
>>> Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that
>>> can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is,
>>> IF your system works now.
>>>
>>> THIRD
>>> Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
>>> Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
>>> a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will
>>> need, and
>>> b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your
>>> hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this
>>> Vista Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers,
>>> especially the wireless).
>>> c) erasing the hard drive completely.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets
>>> aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.
>>>
>>> Groetjes!

>>
>> Dear Han, beste Han,
>>
>> Hi!!!
>> Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het
>> omschrijft.
>> Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat
>> daar in The States!
>>
>> Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting
>> with the full explanation.
>> Let me try to put it this way.
>>
>> PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version
>> Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition
>> C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13 gb)
>> and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
>> ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the
>> goalpartition is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more
>> safety) so, eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do
>> not have any eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still
>> possible to use eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media
>> Center. The one on a hidden partition.
>> Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I
>> now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost) system
>> backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was working fine.
>> That's the situation now!
>>
>> What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of
>> which only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller
>> C: drive of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the
>> remaining bytes.
>>
>> The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller
>> (!!!!), is:
>> a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back the
>> complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW
>> SMALLER! C: drive???? and
>> b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still
>> possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive?
>> And will it work, of course!!
>>
>> So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
>> (that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
>> back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
>> Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
>> C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.
>>
>> Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
>> systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden
>> is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord
>> wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
>> In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
>> (big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo
>> ver weg!
>>
>> Angelique

>
>


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  #14  
Old 11-25-2007, 12:08 AM
doS
 
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Default Re: Rearranging Hard disk

> If you have a partion now that has say,*40gb of info* on it,<



"Wandering" <amore.dei@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fi9gdi$vdj$1@aioe.org...
> It depends on how much data is in the 40 GB image. Usually the image
> program lets you set the size of the partition it is restoring to.
>
> You can't fit 40GB into 25GB, as I am sure you are aware. If the image
> file is 40GB it will need a larger partition to restore into, assuming it
> was compressed in imaging.
>
> Good luck
>
>
> "doS" <kobo65@hotnosomail.com> wrote in message
> news:OrX1j.19$DB7.8@newsfe05.lga...
>> Ok, heres the deal:
>> If you have a partion now that has say,40gb of info on it, and you make a
>> ghost image of that 40gb.if you then shrink your c drive, to lets say,
>> 25gb, when you restore(ghost of the 40gb) you will have an issue.
>>
>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>> news:47472793$0$19982$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>> Han wrote:
>>>> Betty Boop <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in
>>>> news:47461d02$0$24517$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl:
>>>>> doS wrote:
>>>>>> I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:474501cc$0$1047$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>>>> doS wrote:
>>>>>>>> use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
>>>>>>>> carry on...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:47436e46$0$12005$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>>>>>> Hi you all,
>>>>>>>>> I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
>>>>>>>>> SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
>>>>>>>>> partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
>>>>>>> [/]
>>>>>>>>> I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
>>>>>>>>> about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
>>>>>>>>> partition. D:\ will be unchanged.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
>>>>>>>>> anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
>>>>>>>>> work??
>>>>>>>>> Angelique
>>>>>>> doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
>>>>>>> For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
>>>>>>> instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
>>>>>>> the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
>>>>>>> version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
>>>>>>> totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
>>>>>>> measurement, break off the installation after format and than
>>>>>>> reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
>>>>>>> I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
>>>>>>> will I mess up?
>>>>>>> What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
>>>>>>> that smaller space to install???
>>>>>>> The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
>>>>>>> be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
>>>>>>> because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
>>>>>>> backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
>>>>>>> I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
>>>>>>> So,... if not, I really won't carry on!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you please help me out with this as well?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Angelique
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some
>>>>> sort of a language problem here.
>>>>> I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers
>>>>> language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own
>>>>> language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I
>>>>> also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning.
>>>>> All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be
>>>>> so kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Angelique
>>>>
>>>> I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
>>>> that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you
>>>> purchased it.
>>>>
>>>> I see several options:
>>>>
>>>> FIRST
>>>> Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
>>>> MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
>>>> cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more
>>>> space.
>>>>
>>>> SECOND
>>>> Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that
>>>> can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as
>>>> is, IF your system works now.
>>>>
>>>> THIRD
>>>> Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
>>>> Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
>>>> a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will
>>>> need, and
>>>> b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your
>>>> hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this
>>>> Vista Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers,
>>>> especially the wireless).
>>>> c) erasing the hard drive completely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat
>>>> ouderwets aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.
>>>>
>>>> Groetjes!
>>>
>>> Dear Han, beste Han,
>>>
>>> Hi!!!
>>> Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het
>>> omschrijft.
>>> Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat
>>> daar in The States!
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting
>>> with the full explanation.
>>> Let me try to put it this way.
>>>
>>> PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version
>>> Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition
>>> C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13
>>> gb) and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
>>> ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the
>>> goalpartition is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more
>>> safety) so, eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do
>>> not have any eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still
>>> possible to use eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media
>>> Center. The one on a hidden partition.
>>> Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I
>>> now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost)
>>> system backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was
>>> working fine. That's the situation now!
>>>
>>> What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of
>>> which only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller
>>> C: drive of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the
>>> remaining bytes.
>>>
>>> The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller
>>> (!!!!), is:
>>> a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back
>>> the complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the
>>> NOW SMALLER! C: drive???? and
>>> b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still
>>> possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive?
>>> And will it work, of course!!
>>>
>>> So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
>>> (that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
>>> back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
>>> Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
>>> C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.
>>>
>>> Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
>>> systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de
>>> reden is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet
>>> beantwoord wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug
>>> vertalen.
>>> In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
>>> (big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo
>>> ver weg!
>>>
>>> Angelique

>>
>>

>



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  #15  
Old 11-25-2007, 12:16 AM
Betty Boop
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Rearranging Hard disk

Han wrote:
> Betty Boop <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in
> news:47461d02$0$24517$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl:
>
>> doS wrote:
>>> I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....
>>>
>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:474501cc$0$1047$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>> doS wrote:
>>>>> use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
>>>>> carry on...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>>> news:47436e46$0$12005$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>>> Hi you all,
>>>>>> I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
>>>>>> SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
>>>>>> partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
>>>> [/]
>>>>>> I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
>>>>>> about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
>>>>>> partition. D:\ will be unchanged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
>>>>>> anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
>>>>>> work??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Angelique
>>>> doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
>>>> For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
>>>> instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
>>>> the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
>>>> version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
>>>> totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
>>>> measurement, break off the installation after format and than
>>>> reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
>>>> I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
>>>> will I mess up?
>>>>
>>>> What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
>>>> that smaller space to install???
>>>> The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
>>>> be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
>>>> because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
>>>> backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
>>>> I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
>>>> So,... if not, I really won't carry on!
>>>>
>>>> Could you please help me out with this as well?
>>>>
>>>> Angelique
>>>>

>> Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with,
>> there may also be some sort of a language problem
>> here.
>> I apologize for the fact that English has never
>> been my mothers language, so really, I have to try
>> very hard to translate from my own language
>> (Dutch) into the beautiful English language.
>> Besides that, I also am not a technical wonder,
>> computers concerning.
>> All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short.
>> Would you please be so kind and be something more
>> specific. It would matter a lot to me.
>>
>> Angelique

>
> I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
> that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased
> it.
>
> I see several options:
>
> FIRST
> Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
> MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
> cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space.
>
> SECOND
> Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that can
> resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is, IF
> your system works now.
>
> THIRD
> Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
> Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
> a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will need,
> and
> b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your hardware.
> (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this Vista Acer Aspire
> 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers, especially the wireless).
> c) erasing the hard drive completely.
>
>
> Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets
> aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.
>
> Groetjes!


Dear Han, beste Han,

Hi!!!
Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te
volgen zoals je het omschrijft.
Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én
je dierbaren goed gaat daar in The States!

Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read
my very first posting with the full explanation.
Let me try to put it this way.

PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media
Edition 2005 XP version
Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of
each 113 gb. Partition C:\ with (only) the
systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13
gb) and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only
works when the goalpartition is in FAT32. Recently
I formatted this into NTFS (for more safety) so,
eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups
and I do not have any eRecovery backups of the
system. However,... it is still possible to use
eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows
Media Center. The one on a hidden partition.
Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of
the system (C:\ part) I now use the Norton Ghost
Backup application. I got several (ghost) system
backups on the D: drive that were made while the
system was working fine. That's the situation now!

What I want to do is to devide the complete
C-drive (113 gb total of which only 13 gb in use
by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller C:
drive of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E
with the rest of the remaining bytes.

The only things I really need to know is WHEN I
DO make C: smaller (!!!!), is:
a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery
still putting back the complete Windows Media Ed.
2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW
SMALLER! C: drive???? and
b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore
, is it THAN still possible to RESTORE one of the
GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive? And will
it work, of course!!

So the main question is not HOW to devide the C:
into two new partitions (that's of a lesser
importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
back my original Windows version onto the
*smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will Norton GHOST
restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from
the 'old' C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.

Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en
inzicht in computers en systemen inderdaad zo
slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de
reden is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk
wil hebben, niet beantwoord wordt, wil ik het ook
nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie.
Het doet mij écht wat (big smile!) een reactie te
krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver weg!

Angelique
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  #16  
Old 11-25-2007, 12:45 AM
Betty Boop
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Rearranging Hard disk


>

[\]
>>
>> So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
>> (that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
>> back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
>> Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
>> C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.
>>
>> Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
>> systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden
>> is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord
>> wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
>> In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
>> (big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver
>> weg!
>>
>> Angelique

>
> doS wrote:
> Ok, heres the deal:
> If you have a partion now that has say,40gb of info on it, and you make a
> ghost image of that 40gb.if you then shrink your c drive, to lets say, 25gb,
> when you restore(ghost of the 40gb) you will have an issue.



*Really!!!*

Sorry guys, I give up!!!!!!!

Have a nice day, or whatever
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  #17  
Old 11-25-2007, 12:47 AM
Wandering
 
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Default Re: Rearranging Hard disk

I think I understand better now.

Using XP Disk Manager, you can do what you want.

Shrink C: and Expand D: Both a few mouse clicks.

If you have a Ghost image of your entire operating system C: you can install
it on the smaller partition: It will tell you how much it needs. Figure
about 20GB for your operating system. On the other hand, there should be no
reason to do that, as shrinking won't lose any data, but it's there if you
need it.

If you have an image like that, you really have no use for the hidden
partition and you can forget recovery altogether.

I don't know enough about recovery to tell you if it will install into a
smaller partition. I took it off my machine when I installed Acronis True
Image.

Good luck.

"doS" <kobo65@hotnosomail.com> wrote in message
news:Azo1j.104$Hx3.103@newsfe06.lga...
> Partiton magic is the best way to go.
>
> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
> news:474501cc$0$1047$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>> doS wrote:
>>> use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
>>> carry on...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:47436e46$0$12005$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>> Hi you all,
>>>> I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2.
>>>> In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\
>>>> and D:\) each 113 gb.

>> [/]
>>>> I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about
>>>> 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition.
>>>> D:\ will be unchanged.
>>>>
>>>> I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody
>>>> know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work??
>>>>
>>>> Angelique
>>>

>>
>> doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
>> For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead of
>> what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\ partition
>> I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP, XP Home
>> Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install because
>> than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off the
>> installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media Edition.
>> The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system.
>> You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up?
>>
>> What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that
>> smaller space to install???
>> The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be
>> restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because
>> after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and
>> restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally
>> dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
>> So,... if not, I really won't carry on!
>>
>> Could you please help me out with this as well?
>>
>> Angelique
>>
>>
>>

>
>


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  #18  
Old 11-25-2007, 06:24 PM
doS
 
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Default Re: Rearranging Hard disk

you cant, for example, recovery 40 gb into 25gb...

"Wandering" <amore.dei@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fiagmn$b56$1@aioe.org...
>I think I understand better now.
>
> Using XP Disk Manager, you can do what you want.
>
> Shrink C: and Expand D: Both a few mouse clicks.
>
> If you have a Ghost image of your entire operating system C: you can
> install it on the smaller partition: It will tell you how much it needs.
> Figure about 20GB for your operating system. On the other hand, there
> should be no reason to do that, as shrinking won't lose any data, but it's
> there if you need it.
>
> If you have an image like that, you really have no use for the hidden
> partition and you can forget recovery altogether.
>
> I don't know enough about recovery to tell you if it will install into a
> smaller partition. I took it off my machine when I installed Acronis True
> Image.
>
> Good luck.
>
> "doS" <kobo65@hotnosomail.com> wrote in message
> news:Azo1j.104$Hx3.103@newsfe06.lga...
>> Partiton magic is the best way to go.
>>
>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>> news:474501cc$0$1047$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>> doS wrote:
>>>> use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
>>>> carry on...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>> news:47436e46$0$12005$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>> Hi you all,
>>>>> I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2.
>>>>> In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\
>>>>> and D:\) each 113 gb.
>>> [/]
>>>>> I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about
>>>>> 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
>>>>> partition.
>>>>> D:\ will be unchanged.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
>>>>> anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work??
>>>>>
>>>>> Angelique
>>>>
>>>
>>> doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
>>> For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead
>>> of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\
>>> partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP,
>>> XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install
>>> because than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off
>>> the installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media
>>> Edition. The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system.
>>> You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up?
>>>
>>> What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that
>>> smaller space to install???
>>> The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be
>>> restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because
>>> after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and
>>> restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally
>>> dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
>>> So,... if not, I really won't carry on!
>>>
>>> Could you please help me out with this as well?
>>>
>>> Angelique
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>



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  #19  
Old 11-25-2007, 06:25 PM
doS
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Rearranging Hard disk

Email me
]]
"Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
news:4748bed5$0$29576$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
> Han wrote:
>> Betty Boop <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in
>> news:47461d02$0$24517$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl:
>>> doS wrote:
>>>> I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....
>>>>
>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>> news:474501cc$0$1047$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>> doS wrote:
>>>>>> use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
>>>>>> carry on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Betty Boop" <betty@your-door.nl> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:47436e46$0$12005$547a23d3@news.telebyte.nl...
>>>>>>> Hi you all,
>>>>>>> I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
>>>>>>> SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
>>>>>>> partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
>>>>> [/]
>>>>>>> I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
>>>>>>> about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
>>>>>>> partition. D:\ will be unchanged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
>>>>>>> anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
>>>>>>> work??
>>>>>>> Angelique
>>>>> doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
>>>>> For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
>>>>> instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
>>>>> the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
>>>>> version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
>>>>> totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
>>>>> measurement, break off the installation after format and than
>>>>> reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
>>>>> I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
>>>>> will I mess up?
>>>>> What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
>>>>> that smaller space to install???
>>>>> The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
>>>>> be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
>>>>> because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
>>>>> backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
>>>>> I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
>>>>> So,... if not, I really won't carry on!
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please help me out with this as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Angelique
>>>>>
>>> Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some
>>> sort of a language problem here.
>>> I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers
>>> language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own
>>> language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I
>>> also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning.
>>> All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so
>>> kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me.
>>>
>>> Angelique

>>
>> I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
>> that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased
>> it.
>>
>> I see several options:
>>
>> FIRST
>> Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
>> MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
>> cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space.
>>
>> SECOND
>> Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that
>> can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is,
>> IF your system works now.
>>
>> THIRD
>> Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
>> Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
>> a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will
>> need, and
>> b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your
>> hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this Vista
>> Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers, especially
>> the wireless).
>> c) erasing the hard drive completely.
>>
>>
>> Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets
>> aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.
>>
>> Groetjes!

>
> Dear Han, beste Han,
>
> Hi!!!
> Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het
> omschrijft.
> Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat
> daar in The States!
>
> Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting
> with the full explanation.
> Let me try to put it this way.
>
> PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version
> Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition
> C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13 gb)
> and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
> ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the goalpartition
> is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more safety) so,
> eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do not have any
> eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still possible to use
> eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media Center. The one on a
> hidden partition.
> Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I
> now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost) system
> backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was working fine.
> That's the situation now!
>
> What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of which
> only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller C: drive
> of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the remaining
> bytes.
>
> The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller
> (!!!!), is:
> a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back the
> complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW
> SMALLER! C: drive???? and
> b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still
> possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive?
> And will it work, of course!!
>
> So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
> (that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
> back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
> Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
> C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.
>
> Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
> systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden
> is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord
> wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
> In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
> (big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver
> weg!
>
> Angelique



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  #20  
Old 11-25-2007, 10:15 PM
Betty Boop
 
Posts: n/a
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doS wrote:
> Email me
> ]]


>

Give me one good reason why I should.
You don't listen, you can't read and even the way you communicate
is poor!

Besides that, your manners in this media are also not correct.
First of all: reactions are posted at the bottom of the thread
and seccond, posting in a newsgroup is answering in this newsgroup.

So,......
Thanks, but no thanks.
Angelique
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