I think you should know the difference between standby and shut down.
Standby = low power preservation of the last state of the system, but power
IS NEEDED to keep that state alive.
Shut down = finish writing all settings (registry, ini files, flush temp
files, etc), and prepare machine for zero power. However, many machines
now keep some power going even if you turn them OFF. Hence the continuing
discussion whether to unplug the machine if you going to futz with the
innards (so as not to get a shock, or generate a power surge), or keep it
plugged in (so as to keep the chassis grounded).
I think you should know the difference between standby and shut down.
Standby = low power preservation of the last state of the system, but power
IS NEEDED to keep that state alive.
Shut down = finish writing all settings (registry, ini files, flush temp
files, etc), and prepare machine for zero power. However, many machines
now keep some power going even if you turn them OFF. Hence the continuing
discussion whether to unplug the machine if you going to futz with the
innards (so as not to get a shock, or generate a power surge), or keep it
plugged in (so as to keep the chassis grounded).
>I think you should know the difference between standby and shut down.
I know.. :-)
>Shut down = finish writing all settings (registry, ini files, flush temp
>files, etc), and prepare machine for zero power. However, many machines
>now keep some power going even if you turn them OFF. Hence the continuing
>discussion whether to unplug the machine if you going to futz with the
Sorry, what's the meaning of "futz with the innards"?
>innards (so as not to get a shock, or generate a power surge), or keep it
>plugged in (so as to keep the chassis grounded).
My definitive question is: can I unplug the laptop from AC even if I
wait for shut-down end? Maybe I can't explain well but the problem is
the system crashes when I wait for shout-down end and then uplug the
AC (without battery inside), too! Is it normal?
>I think you should know the difference between standby and shut down.
I know.. :-)
>Shut down = finish writing all settings (registry, ini files, flush temp
>files, etc), and prepare machine for zero power. However, many machines
>now keep some power going even if you turn them OFF. Hence the continuing
>discussion whether to unplug the machine if you going to futz with the
Sorry, what's the meaning of "futz with the innards"?
>innards (so as not to get a shock, or generate a power surge), or keep it
>plugged in (so as to keep the chassis grounded).
My definitive question is: can I unplug the laptop from AC even if I
wait for shut-down end? Maybe I can't explain well but the problem is
the system crashes when I wait for shout-down end and then uplug the
AC (without battery inside), too! Is it normal?
Mhaxx <mhaxx@despammed.com> wrote in
news:ffosu3pajk8cts7q8lvjbda8ipikk7kjiv@4ax.com:
>>I think you should know the difference between standby and shut down.
>
> I know.. :-)
>
>>Shut down = finish writing all settings (registry, ini files, flush
>>temp files, etc), and prepare machine for zero power. However, many
>>machines now keep some power going even if you turn them OFF. Hence
>>the continuing discussion whether to unplug the machine if you going
>>to futz with the
>
> Sorry, what's the meaning of "futz with the innards"?
Fool around with the components inside.
If you can possibly touch components that have electrical charge or
voltage on them, it could be bad for them or you. If that possibility
exists, unplug the machine. I oncetried to move my hobby radio from the
windowsill, and grabbed a transformer designed to power a good size radio
with lots of vacuum tubes. I forgot the whole thing was plugged in to a
Dutch outlet with 220V, 50 Hz. I grabbed it across bare terminals. Not
that 110V 60 Hz is any easier ...
>>innards (so as not to get a shock, or generate a power surge), or keep
>>it plugged in (so as to keep the chassis grounded).
>
> My definitive question is: can I unplug the laptop from AC even if I
> wait for shut-down end? Maybe I can't explain well but the problem is
> the system crashes when I wait for shout-down end and then uplug the
> AC (without battery inside), too! Is it normal?
>
> Sorry for my bad English..
>
> Mhaxx
>
I can force my laptop to shut down (bad Vista does not always shut down
by itself, and I have to hold the power button down to force the thing
off). Then I can unplug everything form the laptop and remove the
battery. It will start up just fine when I turn it on (but sometimes it
asks whether I want to start in safe mode or something else).
The "crash" is really before or during shutdown when things go wrong, but
Vista Home Basic is "smart" enough to start OK again. My system has
something wrong with the driver(s) for the wireless and/or ethernet
controller. Getting new drivers for the Yukon piece of trash does not
seem to help. Otherwise the thing runs fine, albeit slow.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Mhaxx <mhaxx@despammed.com> wrote in
news:ffosu3pajk8cts7q8lvjbda8ipikk7kjiv@4ax.com:
>>I think you should know the difference between standby and shut down.
>
> I know.. :-)
>
>>Shut down = finish writing all settings (registry, ini files, flush
>>temp files, etc), and prepare machine for zero power. However, many
>>machines now keep some power going even if you turn them OFF. Hence
>>the continuing discussion whether to unplug the machine if you going
>>to futz with the
>
> Sorry, what's the meaning of "futz with the innards"?
Fool around with the components inside.
If you can possibly touch components that have electrical charge or
voltage on them, it could be bad for them or you. If that possibility
exists, unplug the machine. I oncetried to move my hobby radio from the
windowsill, and grabbed a transformer designed to power a good size radio
with lots of vacuum tubes. I forgot the whole thing was plugged in to a
Dutch outlet with 220V, 50 Hz. I grabbed it across bare terminals. Not
that 110V 60 Hz is any easier ...
>>innards (so as not to get a shock, or generate a power surge), or keep
>>it plugged in (so as to keep the chassis grounded).
>
> My definitive question is: can I unplug the laptop from AC even if I
> wait for shut-down end? Maybe I can't explain well but the problem is
> the system crashes when I wait for shout-down end and then uplug the
> AC (without battery inside), too! Is it normal?
>
> Sorry for my bad English..
>
> Mhaxx
>
I can force my laptop to shut down (bad Vista does not always shut down
by itself, and I have to hold the power button down to force the thing
off). Then I can unplug everything form the laptop and remove the
battery. It will start up just fine when I turn it on (but sometimes it
asks whether I want to start in safe mode or something else).
The "crash" is really before or during shutdown when things go wrong, but
Vista Home Basic is "smart" enough to start OK again. My system has
something wrong with the driver(s) for the wireless and/or ethernet
controller. Getting new drivers for the Yukon piece of trash does not
seem to help. Otherwise the thing runs fine, albeit slow.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
>I can force my laptop to shut down (bad Vista does not always shut down
>by itself, and I have to hold the power button down to force the thing
>off). Then I can unplug everything form the laptop and remove the
>battery. It will start up just fine when I turn it on (but sometimes it
>asks whether I want to start in safe mode or something else).
Yes, this is what happens to me: I've just tied and it worked good,
but sometimes it askes to me to start in safe mode.. and this is what
I can't understand.
>I can force my laptop to shut down (bad Vista does not always shut down
>by itself, and I have to hold the power button down to force the thing
>off). Then I can unplug everything form the laptop and remove the
>battery. It will start up just fine when I turn it on (but sometimes it
>asks whether I want to start in safe mode or something else).
Yes, this is what happens to me: I've just tied and it worked good,
but sometimes it askes to me to start in safe mode.. and this is what
I can't understand.
Mhaxx <mhaxx@despammed.com> wrote in
news:js2vu39arqi11qhed3oqpnnga77nv4n1m8@4ax.com:
>>I can force my laptop to shut down (bad Vista does not always shut
>>down by itself, and I have to hold the power button down to force the
>>thing off). Then I can unplug everything form the laptop and remove
>>the battery. It will start up just fine when I turn it on (but
>>sometimes it asks whether I want to start in safe mode or something
>>else).
>
> Yes, this is what happens to me: I've just tied and it worked good,
> but sometimes it askes to me to start in safe mode.. and this is what
> I can't understand.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mhaxx
>
Well, generally I tell it to start in normal mode. I am still having on
and off problemns with the expletive deleted Yukon Marvell
radio/ethernet controller. And I cannot get Vasta SP1 to install. Even
after download the 1/2 GB file, install gives me a Code 800B0100 error,
and the info about that error is gobbledygook.
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