info@onlyhd.tv wrote:
> Thanks, yes I put the 4-pin cable on per the specs in the manual.
> However, I did buy a Dynex 400w ATX SATA SLI Power Supply and I can
> see from John's posting that I need at least a 600, so I'll buy
> another one and follow up with the groups.
>
> As for the bull**** comment, I think I'll ignore that since there is
> no explaination to backup the "bull****' call. Would Mr. Nobody like
> to comment back on the bull**** call?
>
> Thanks guys!
>
> Erik
>
>
Haven't you been following the numerous threads on *true* power
consumption and quality of power supplies?
Your original post didn't list all the components to make a judgement,
but the only time I've used anything bigger than a 'quality' 450W supply
is in a SLI video setup.
PSU wattage has become another '***** size' issue.
<info@onlyhd.tv> wrote in message
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> thanks Paul, but I'm still at a point of not even getting a POST. The
> PSU I bought is pretty crappy (not a major brand)... anyone have a
> good list of reasons for NO POST? I know this beyond vauge, but I'm
> at a loss now since this last great post from Paul.
>
To POST, you need a good (note I said GOOD):
-Motherboard
-CPU
-Power Supply
And, the connections between those three need to be correct.
You should also have video card and RAM installed, but this is not required
for POST. Without video card or RAM installed, POST will not complete
without errors!!! (but it will POST, it will just give you error beeps)
Most common cause of no POST (probably 99% or better) is a bad power supply.
Most of the rest would be bad motherboard. CPUs are generally pretty
reliable, if installed correctly.
If the PSU you bought is pretty crappy in your opinion, that just confirms
what should be your first suspect anyway. I'd recommend you try the
following: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151033
That's about the cheapest you will find on a decent quality power supply
that is well matched to your hardware. -Dave
info@onlyhd.tv wrote:
> thanks Paul, but I'm still at a point of not even getting a POST. The
> PSU I bought is pretty crappy (not a major brand)... anyone have a
> good list of reasons for NO POST? I know this beyond vauge, but I'm
> at a loss now since this last great post from Paul.
>
You can try simplifying your setup. For example, remove the video
card and the RAM. Sometimes, bad RAM can make a board fail to do anything.
With video card and RAM removed, if the BIOS was actually working, the
computer speaker should beep. Your motherboard doesn't have SPKR pins on
the panel header that I could find in the manual, and the picture of the
motherboard on Newegg shows the board has a round piezo speaker near the
SATA connectors. That should beep once if everything was working fine.
If you have a motherboard, with processor ahd heatsink/fan connected to the
CPU header, then the processor should be able to execute some BIOS code.
You'd check that a BIOS chip was present in its socket. On this motherboard,
the BIOS chip is near the blue video card connector. On the one side of the
video card connector, is the yellow PCI Express x1 connector. On the
other side of the blue connector, is the BIOS chip socket and BIOS chip.
It has a hologram looking sticker on the top of the chip.
If the processor can read the BIOS chip, then it'll be in a position
to "complain" about the lack of other hardware components. You'd expect to hear
two beeps or three beeps (varies with BIOS type), for some of the
missing hardware conditions. You'd be relying on the existence of
those beeps, that the processor is executing some BIOS code. If
the processor cannot execute BIOS code, then you get no beeps.
Then, if you install some RAM, and the beeping stops entirely, that
tells you the RAM may be bad and shorting out the memory slot.
(Always power off, and even unplug, before making changes to the
hardware configuration. You don't want +5VSB to be present in the
computer, when changing RAM for example. I find it simpler to just
unplug when changing hardware, as that is easier for me to remember
to do.)
The last two computers I built, I assembled them entirely on
my work table, without using the computer case. I put the motherboard
on top of a cardboard covered telephone book. That raises the
motherboard high enough, that the faceplate tab on the video card
won't hit the table. You have to be really careful with this method,
because if you accidentally pull on the video cable, it pulls the
video card right out of the video card slot.
The advantage of the "cardboard test", is it avoids potential shorting
issues on the bottom of the motherboard.
I actually got the system working completely, while sitting on the
table, including repair install of the OS on the boot drive. Once
all the hardware was proven, I could put the hardware into the
computer case and finish the job.
If you wanted to verify the power supply, what I do it take a
multimeter, set it to 20VDC full scale, and probe the backside
of the main ATX power connector, while the system is running.
I clip the black ground lead of the multimeter to a screw on
an I/O connector in the I/O area of the motherboard. Then,
with the red lead, I can probe the main power connector (where
the wires enter the nylon shroud). There is some exposed metal
of the power connector pins there, and you can take a voltage
reading from each pin. The motherboard manual has a list of the
signal names on that connector, to compare against. The voltages
should be no more than 5% from the nominal values (3.3V, 5V, 12V,
-12V, +5VSB and so on).
I am having the exact same problem.
Have a Ultra 500W PSU with 4 pins for CPU
Have a FOXCONN P9657AB
CPU Core 2 DUO 3.0 Ghz
and 2.1 V Crucial RAM
No Video, No Post, no nothing, just fans spinning.
Did the new PSU work for YOU?
AbeDream wrote:
> I am having the exact same problem.
> Have a Ultra 500W PSU with 4 pins for CPU
> Have a FOXCONN P9657AB
> CPU Core 2 DUO 3.0 Ghz
> and 2.1 V Crucial RAM
> No Video, No Post, no nothing, just fans spinning.
> Did the new PSU work for YOU?
>
>
What is the FSB specification of the processor ?
Is it FSB1333 ? The motherboard is listed as
using a P965 chipset, with FSB options of
1066 / 800 / 533 MHz.
I am having the same problem as the OP and the ^^. I have the FOXCONN P9657AB mobo. The FSB is 1066/800/533.
My CPU is an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 processor with FSB of 1333mhz.
Basically I plug it in and power on the Power Supply. A red LED comes up on the mobo. I flip the switch, the HDD spins, all the fans spin, but there are no beeps, and there is no video.
Is my problem the FSB disparity between the mobo and the CPU? Or is it possibly a bad CPU or mobo?
Also, I've tried with 2 different PSUs, one I know to be working (I took it out of another PC, and have since put it back in), but with a 4-pin ATX connector, and a new one I bought with an 8-pin EPS connector after I read this thread.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated, as I am very frustrated right now.
Leaffe wrote:
> I am having the same problem as the OP and the ^^. I have the FOXCONN
> P9657AB mobo. The FSB is 1066/800/533.
>
> My CPU is an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 processor with FSB of 1333mhz.
>
> Basically I plug it in and power on the Power Supply. A red LED comes
> up on the mobo. I flip the switch, the HDD spins, all the fans spin,
> but there are no beeps, and there is no video.
>
> Is my problem the FSB disparity between the mobo and the CPU? Or is it
> possibly a bad CPU or mobo?
>
> Also, I've tried with 2 different PSUs, one I know to be working (I
> took it out of another PC, and have since put it back in), but with a
> 4-pin ATX connector, and a new one I bought with an 8-pin EPS connector
> after I read this thread.
>
> Any help would be GREATLY appreciated, as I am very frustrated right
> now.
>
Before buying any motherboard and CPU combination, you generally want
proof the combination will work. Some of the motherboard makers, provide
CPU charts, to show which combinations work or have been tested, and
what minimum BIOS version is needed.
The Foxconn site mentions FSB1066 for that P965 based product, which
is the "non-overclocked" limit for the chipset. Other manufacturers
have managed to run the chipset at faster speeds. But since I cannot
see a CPUSupport chart on the Foxconn site, I cannot see any proof
that you can mix a FSB1333 processor, with your FSB1066 motherboard.
You may want to substitute a known working LGA775 processor, to
verify the motherboard works. If a slower processor works, and your
E8400 does not, the conclusion would be that Foxconn has made
no provision for it to work. You would then need to purchase a FSB1333
motherboard, for your E8400 processor.
In article <g5lumj$a4t$1@aioe.org>, nospam@needed.com says...
> Leaffe wrote:
> > I am having the same problem as the OP and the ^^. I have the FOXCONN
> > P9657AB mobo. The FSB is 1066/800/533.
> >
> > My CPU is an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 processor with FSB of 1333mhz.
> >
> > Basically I plug it in and power on the Power Supply. A red LED comes
> > up on the mobo. I flip the switch, the HDD spins, all the fans spin,
> > but there are no beeps, and there is no video.
> >
> > Is my problem the FSB disparity between the mobo and the CPU? Or is it
> > possibly a bad CPU or mobo?
> >
> > Also, I've tried with 2 different PSUs, one I know to be working (I
> > took it out of another PC, and have since put it back in), but with a
> > 4-pin ATX connector, and a new one I bought with an 8-pin EPS connector
> > after I read this thread.
> >
> > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated, as I am very frustrated right
> > now.
> >
>
> Before buying any motherboard and CPU combination, you generally want
> proof the combination will work. Some of the motherboard makers, provide
> CPU charts, to show which combinations work or have been tested, and
> what minimum BIOS version is needed.
>
> The Foxconn site mentions FSB1066 for that P965 based product, which
> is the "non-overclocked" limit for the chipset. Other manufacturers
> have managed to run the chipset at faster speeds. But since I cannot
> see a CPUSupport chart on the Foxconn site, I cannot see any proof
> that you can mix a FSB1333 processor, with your FSB1066 motherboard.
>
> You may want to substitute a known working LGA775 processor, to
> verify the motherboard works. If a slower processor works, and your
> E8400 does not, the conclusion would be that Foxconn has made
> no provision for it to work. You would then need to purchase a FSB1333
> motherboard, for your E8400 processor.
>
> Paul
>
I can tell you that my E8400 processor did not work in my G965
motherboard < ya, I tried it, even though I figured it wouldn't
work >.
The OP should get an E6600, E6420, or Q6600 and overclock them
if he can/wants too. Otherwise it's new board time.
Thanks for your help, guys. I ended up buying a new motherboard that supports 1333mhz FSB. It should come in on Monday, so I'll let you know if that did the trick!
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