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  #31  
Old 05-11-2008, 05:32 PM
Brian W
 
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"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
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> How in the world would that get me what I want, which is a 32-bit Vista
> installation DVD with integrated SP1?


Sorry, I was getting confused! You could buy a Vista Basic 32-bit DVD with
SP1.

>
>
> Brian W wrote:
>>
>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>> news:OAtGE3tsIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian W wrote:
>>>
>>>> It was possible to order an anytime upgrade disk, but MS stopped that
>>>> as well unless you buy a new licence :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. That's what I had been counting on and then discovered that it
>>> couldn't be had that way. That's what prompted me to initiate this
>>> thread, hoping for a new solution to the problem of somehow getting an
>>> integrated DVD for cheap.

>>
>> The easiest (cheapest) way I can think of is to buy a generic OEM Vista
>> Basic 64-bit. As you have a key already for a different version, use that
>> as all the discs are identical.
>> Or find a friend who has a 64-bit retail/generic OEM disk!
>>


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  #32  
Old 05-11-2008, 06:21 PM
Donald L McDaniel
 
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On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:23:02 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
<Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:

>How in the world would that get me what I want, which is a 32-bit Vista
>installation DVD with integrated SP1?


Just face it, "Daze", Vista SP1 currently has NO BUILT-IN ability
(i.e., "the code is NOT AVAILABLE to the user from Microsoft") to be
slipstreamed by the user with a previous copy of Vista.

Microsoft itself has told us this. Additionally, Microsoft has said
that it will not be available until SP2, IF it is ever going to be
available. NOTE that that is a big "IF". It MAY be made available,
but there is no guarantee that it will.

If you want one now, the only suggestion I have is that you purchase
one.

Or use a third-party utility, such as "vlite".


Donald L McDaniel
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  #33  
Old 05-11-2008, 10:33 PM
Daze N. Knights
 
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Default Re: Vista SP1 DVD ?

Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
apparently vLite actually fits the bill.

I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.



Donald L McDaniel wrote:
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:23:02 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>> How in the world would that get me what I want, which is a 32-bit Vista
>> installation DVD with integrated SP1?

>
> Just face it, "Daze", Vista SP1 currently has NO BUILT-IN ability
> (i.e., "the code is NOT AVAILABLE to the user from Microsoft") to be
> slipstreamed by the user with a previous copy of Vista.
>
> Microsoft itself has told us this. Additionally, Microsoft has said
> that it will not be available until SP2, IF it is ever going to be
> available. NOTE that that is a big "IF". It MAY be made available,
> but there is no guarantee that it will.
>
> If you want one now, the only suggestion I have is that you purchase
> one.
>
> Or use a third-party utility, such as "vlite".
>
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
> ================================================

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  #34  
Old 05-12-2008, 07:05 PM
Dave
 
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Mark wrote:
> I heard from many different people that slipstreaming with vlite
> 1.1.6 works flawlessly.
>
> http://www.labnol.org/software/tutor...tegrated/2750/
>
> Here's a forum thread that cinfirms that it works.
>
> http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about102033.html
>
> Mark
>


I've just tried it and it does work. The interface is a bit confusing
but it does work. It took me about 2 hours in total. Vista Ultimate 32.
Checked the finished iso by doing a clean installing and all went well.



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  #35  
Old 05-12-2008, 07:22 PM
Daze N. Knights
 
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Dave wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> I heard from many different people that slipstreaming with vlite
>> 1.1.6 works flawlessly.
>>
>> http://www.labnol.org/software/tutor...tegrated/2750/
>>
>> Here's a forum thread that cinfirms that it works.
>>
>> http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about102033.html
>>
>> Mark
>>

>
> I've just tried it and it does work. The interface is a bit confusing
> but it does work. It took me about 2 hours in total. Vista Ultimate 32.
> Checked the finished iso by doing a clean installing and all went well.


Dave:

I've been trying it, too, and all seems to be going well. I've not had
occasion yet to actually use it, though, so your input in that regard is
appreciated. Unfortunately, one can only slipstream one version of Vista
per image, but one can also rebuild it to eliminate the other,
non-slipstreamed versions of Vista and end up with a smaller final image
for burning. Since what I wanted was an integrated of Vista SP1 on DVD
primarily for use in repairing other people's PCs, I need a slipstreamed
DVD for each version of Vista, and thus intend to make four (Ultimate,
Business, Premium, and Basic) in order to be ready for anything. Time
consuming, but do-able.

Daze
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  #36  
Old 05-12-2008, 07:45 PM
Donald L McDaniel
 
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On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:33:43 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
<Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:

>Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
>slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
>apparently vLite actually fits the bill.
>
>I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
>then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
>any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
>and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
>vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
>so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.


Just keep in mind that this is a violation of the Vista EULA (what
vLite does is referred to as "backward-engineering"), and you will
receive no support from Microsoft if you do it.


Donald L McDaniel
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  #37  
Old 05-13-2008, 12:09 AM
Mark
 
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If Microsoft supported us to begin with, by offering a fix for slipsteaming
or at the very least let us download a slipstreamed Vista package we
wouldn't have to take these measures.

Mark

"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:hd7h24tj3q5memvt4pel7uh80f1c2q016f@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:33:43 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>>Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
>>slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
>>apparently vLite actually fits the bill.
>>
>>I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
>>then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
>>any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
>>and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
>>vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
>>so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.

>
> Just keep in mind that this is a violation of the Vista EULA (what
> vLite does is referred to as "backward-engineering"), and you will
> receive no support from Microsoft if you do it.
>
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
> ================================================



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  #38  
Old 05-13-2008, 01:24 AM
Daze N. Knights
 
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Default Re: Vista SP1 DVD ?

Exactly.


Mark wrote:
> If Microsoft supported us to begin with, by offering a fix for slipsteaming
> or at the very least let us download a slipstreamed Vista package we
> wouldn't have to take these measures.
>
> Mark
>
> "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:hd7h24tj3q5memvt4pel7uh80f1c2q016f@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:33:43 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
>>> slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
>>> apparently vLite actually fits the bill.
>>>
>>> I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
>>> then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
>>> any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
>>> and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
>>> vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
>>> so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.

>> Just keep in mind that this is a violation of the Vista EULA (what
>> vLite does is referred to as "backward-engineering"), and you will
>> receive no support from Microsoft if you do it.
>>
>>
>> Donald L McDaniel
>> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
>> ================================================

>
>

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  #39  
Old 05-13-2008, 02:05 AM
mike
 
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Mark wrote:
> If Microsoft supported us to begin with, by offering a fix for slipsteaming
> or at the very least let us download a slipstreamed Vista package we
> wouldn't have to take these measures.
>
> Mark
>
> "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:hd7h24tj3q5memvt4pel7uh80f1c2q016f@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:33:43 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
>>> slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
>>> apparently vLite actually fits the bill.
>>>
>>> I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
>>> then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
>>> any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
>>> and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
>>> vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
>>> so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.

>> Just keep in mind that this is a violation of the Vista EULA (what
>> vLite does is referred to as "backward-engineering"), and you will
>> receive no support from Microsoft if you do it.



And your point is????
Unless you stay firmly on the narrow yellow brick road that MS has
mapped out for THEIR benefit, there ain't no help anyway.
God help you if you want to do anything "interesting".
>>
>>
>> Donald L McDaniel
>> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
>> ================================================

>
>



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