If looking for a different approach and drive selectable in Vista..
Take your pick:
1. Auslogics Disc Defrag http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php
- click on the Mirror Download link for the latest version(the Cnet
still has the prior)
Comments: Quick and Visual, report at end(if you like the old colored square
approach)
Note PowerDefragmenter uses the Msft Mark Russinovich's SysInternals
Contig.exe http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...es/contig.mspx
- Download the first,(Zip file) to an new folder, double click to
extract it will extract two files, PowerDefragGui.exe and an older version
of Contig.exe
- Download the Contig.exe V1.54 to the same folder(replace, or first
delete/rename the older version)
- Click on the on PowerDefragGui.exe
Comments: Quicker than Vista, effective, activates a command prompt window,
no visualization, report at end
Manual Method
Vista included Defrag via a command prompt(the save can create their own bat
or script file) if manual mode is not desired
Method: Use Command prompt with Run as Administrator privilege. For defrag
commands, at the prompt type Defrag -?
e.g.
defrag c: -a
- only analyzes the c: drive
defrag c:
- defrags the c: drive
defrag c: -v
- defrags the c: drive with more detail once complete
Comments: quick, strictly msft, report at end.
They all work with similar results with similar options chosen.
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 03:19:34 -0400, ...winston wrote:
> If looking for a different approach and drive selectable in Vista..
> Take your pick:
> 1. Auslogics Disc Defrag
> http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php
> - click on the Mirror Download link for the latest version(the Cnet
> still has the prior)
> Comments: Quick and Visual, report at end(if you like the old colored square
> approach)
>
> 2. PowerDefragmenter(Zip file)
> http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...agmenter.shtml
> or
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Power_Defr...GUI_d4647.html
>
> Note PowerDefragmenter uses the Msft Mark Russinovich's SysInternals
> Contig.exe
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...es/contig.mspx
> - Download the first,(Zip file) to an new folder, double click to
> extract it will extract two files, PowerDefragGui.exe and an older version
> of Contig.exe
> - Download the Contig.exe V1.54 to the same folder(replace, or first
> delete/rename the older version)
> - Click on the on PowerDefragGui.exe
> Comments: Quicker than Vista, effective, activates a command prompt window,
> no visualization, report at end
>
>
> Manual Method
> Vista included Defrag via a command prompt(the save can create their own bat
> or script file) if manual mode is not desired
> Method: Use Command prompt with Run as Administrator privilege. For defrag
> commands, at the prompt type Defrag -?
> e.g.
> defrag c: -a
> - only analyzes the c: drive
> defrag c:
> - defrags the c: drive
> defrag c: -v
> - defrags the c: drive with more detail once complete
> Comments: quick, strictly msft, report at end.
>
> They all work with similar results with similar options chosen.
>
> ..winston
One other option, of course, would be to use a modern operating system
which does not require defragmentation.
"...winston" <merlin@druid9#.com> wrote in message
news:es5J9wxgHHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> If looking for a different approach and drive selectable in Vista..
> Take your pick:
> 1. Auslogics Disc Defrag
> http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php
> - click on the Mirror Download link for the latest version(the Cnet
> still has the prior)
> Comments: Quick and Visual, report at end(if you like the old colored
> square approach)
>
> 2. PowerDefragmenter(Zip file)
>
> http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...agmenter.shtml
> or
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Power_Defr...GUI_d4647.html
>
> Note PowerDefragmenter uses the Msft Mark Russinovich's SysInternals
> Contig.exe
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...es/contig.mspx
> - Download the first,(Zip file) to an new folder, double click to
> extract it will extract two files, PowerDefragGui.exe and an older version
> of Contig.exe
> - Download the Contig.exe V1.54 to the same folder(replace, or first
> delete/rename the older version)
> - Click on the on PowerDefragGui.exe
> Comments: Quicker than Vista, effective, activates a command prompt
> window,
> no visualization, report at end
>
>
> Manual Method
> Vista included Defrag via a command prompt(the save can create their own
> bat
> or script file) if manual mode is not desired
> Method: Use Command prompt with Run as Administrator privilege. For defrag
> commands, at the prompt type Defrag -?
> e.g.
> defrag c: -a
> - only analyzes the c: drive
> defrag c:
> - defrags the c: drive
> defrag c: -v
> - defrags the c: drive with more detail once complete
> Comments: quick, strictly msft, report at end.
>
> They all work with similar results with similar options chosen.
>
> ..winston
>
>
"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>
> One other option, of course, would be to use a modern operating system
> which does not require defragmentation.
>
I was figuring someone would say something like that. Speaking for most
people coming here for /information/ on Vista, I wish the Vista-trashers
would either cut it out, or just put the word TRASH after their post
subjects. We're here to get information on Vista, not to be talked into
switching horses. Normally, that's not even an option. But even if it were,
all the nay-sayers are doing, IMHO, is making it so that I would NEVER
consider Umboowatoo or whatever you're selling. Just like the obnoxious TV
ads that make it so I'll never use that product either.
I bought Vista because I develop programs that will have to run on Vista,
because that's what 95% of the new computers from Best Buy and wherever have
on them. I don't like it all that well yet; there are some good features,
some screwy ones, and a lot I don't know yet, which is why I'm here. But
these people make it hard for everyone to learn, and most here are probably
about as sick of it as me.
Specifically as to fragmentation, it occurs in Linux and Unix just as it has
in Windows and DOS, but no one's ever done anything about it. That's a fact.
But with smaller files than Windows, it also doesn't matter as much. But
that's beside the point.
Anyhow, even here, I think it would be just fine for the nay-sayers to have
separate threads that says "Frustrated with Vista? Get Information on
GooFooLoo here!". But for them to chime in, and complete /ruin/ threads
started by people are asking for help, and where others are trying to help
them, speaks volumes /against/ those people (and by association, their OS).
So - Where's that method to block posts by certain posters (I'm using OE on
Win2K at work)? You very quickly learn which people want to help, and which
are here only to disrupt, so it's probably best to start blocking them. ;-)
Oh, and just so this post isn't /only/ as disruptive as so many others, I'm
using PerfectDisk for defragging Vista. It works well, but isn't free.
Diskeeper works well for other Windows versions, and I'm sure for Vista as
well, with their latest patch. Either gives you much more control, and
information, than the standard defragger.
Rick Raisley wrote:
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> One other option, of course, would be to use a modern operating system
>> which does not require defragmentation.
>>
>
> I was figuring someone would say something like that. Speaking for most
> people coming here for /information/ on Vista,
You only speak for yourself.
> I wish the Vista-trashers
> would either cut it out, or just put the word TRASH after their post
> subjects.
"Rick Raisley" <heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net> wrote in message
news:uS%23mSJ3gHHA.1332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>
>> One other option, of course, would be to use a modern operating system
>> which does not require defragmentation.
>>
>
> I was figuring someone would say something like that. Speaking for most
> people coming here for /information/ on Vista, I wish the Vista-trashers
> would either cut it out, or just put the word TRASH after their post
> subjects. We're here to get information on Vista, not to be talked into
> switching horses. Normally, that's not even an option. But even if it
> were,
> all the nay-sayers are doing, IMHO, is making it so that I would NEVER
> consider Umboowatoo or whatever you're selling. Just like the obnoxious TV
> ads that make it so I'll never use that product either.
>
> I bought Vista because I develop programs that will have to run on Vista,
> because that's what 95% of the new computers from Best Buy and wherever
> have
> on them. I don't like it all that well yet; there are some good features,
> some screwy ones, and a lot I don't know yet, which is why I'm here. But
> these people make it hard for everyone to learn, and most here are
> probably
> about as sick of it as me.
>
> Specifically as to fragmentation, it occurs in Linux and Unix just as it
> has
> in Windows and DOS, but no one's ever done anything about it. That's a
> fact.
> But with smaller files than Windows, it also doesn't matter as much. But
> that's beside the point.
>
> Anyhow, even here, I think it would be just fine for the nay-sayers to
> have
> separate threads that says "Frustrated with Vista? Get Information on
> GooFooLoo here!". But for them to chime in, and complete /ruin/ threads
> started by people are asking for help, and where others are trying to help
> them, speaks volumes /against/ those people (and by association, their
> OS).
>
> So - Where's that method to block posts by certain posters (I'm using OE
> on
> Win2K at work)? You very quickly learn which people want to help, and
> which
> are here only to disrupt, so it's probably best to start blocking them.
> ;-)
>
> Oh, and just so this post isn't /only/ as disruptive as so many others,
> I'm
> using PerfectDisk for defragging Vista. It works well, but isn't free.
> Diskeeper works well for other Windows versions, and I'm sure for Vista as
> well, with their latest patch. Either gives you much more control, and
> information, than the standard defragger.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Rick Raisley
>
>
Thanks Mike,
Aware of it(prior DiskKeeper tester) and installed on the other Ultimate machine.
The post was for those interested in alternative free tools rather than trial versions.
All the free options work though they don't include any additional bells and whistles that some users like and which Diskkeeper provides.
..winston
"Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message news:OqdmcT2gHHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: Try here..
:
: http://www.diskeeper.com/landing/lan...FSTHIgodbmINBw
:
:
: "...winston" <merlin@druid9#.com> wrote in message
: news:es5J9wxgHHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > If looking for a different approach and drive selectable in Vista..
: > Take your pick:
: > 1. Auslogics Disc Defrag
: > http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php
: > - click on the Mirror Download link for the latest version(the Cnet
: > still has the prior)
: > Comments: Quick and Visual, report at end(if you like the old colored
: > square approach)
: >
: > 2. PowerDefragmenter(Zip file)
: >
: > http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...agmenter.shtml
: > or
: > http://www.majorgeeks.com/Power_Defr...GUI_d4647.html
: >
: > Note PowerDefragmenter uses the Msft Mark Russinovich's SysInternals
: > Contig.exe
: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...es/contig.mspx
: > - Download the first,(Zip file) to an new folder, double click to
: > extract it will extract two files, PowerDefragGui.exe and an older version
: > of Contig.exe
: > - Download the Contig.exe V1.54 to the same folder(replace, or first
: > delete/rename the older version)
: > - Click on the on PowerDefragGui.exe
: > Comments: Quicker than Vista, effective, activates a command prompt
: > window,
: > no visualization, report at end
: >
: >
: > Manual Method
: > Vista included Defrag via a command prompt(the save can create their own
: > bat
: > or script file) if manual mode is not desired
: > Method: Use Command prompt with Run as Administrator privilege. For defrag
: > commands, at the prompt type Defrag -?
: > e.g.
: > defrag c: -a
: > - only analyzes the c: drive
: > defrag c:
: > - defrags the c: drive
: > defrag c: -v
: > - defrags the c: drive with more detail once complete
: > Comments: quick, strictly msft, report at end.
: >
: > They all work with similar results with similar options chosen.
: >
: > ..winston
: >
: >
:
: --
:
:
: Mike Hall
: MS MVP Windows Shell/User
: http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
:
:
:
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:32:50 -0400, Rick Raisley wrote:
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>
>> One other option, of course, would be to use a modern operating system
>> which does not require defragmentation.
>>
>
> I was figuring someone would say something like that. Speaking for most
> people coming here for /information/ on Vista, I wish the Vista-trashers
> would either cut it out, or just put the word TRASH after their post
> subjects. We're here to get information on Vista, not to be talked into
> switching horses. Normally, that's not even an option. But even if it were,
> all the nay-sayers are doing, IMHO, is making it so that I would NEVER
> consider Umboowatoo or whatever you're selling. Just like the obnoxious TV
> ads that make it so I'll never use that product either.
The OP was asking about options. IMHO that is a viable one.
>
> I bought Vista because I develop programs that will have to run on Vista,
> because that's what 95% of the new computers from Best Buy and wherever have
> on them. I don't like it all that well yet; there are some good features,
> some screwy ones, and a lot I don't know yet, which is why I'm here. But
> these people make it hard for everyone to learn, and most here are probably
> about as sick of it as me.
Well, you're not the OP, now are you.
>
> Specifically as to fragmentation, it occurs in Linux and Unix just as it has
> in Windows and DOS, but no one's ever done anything about it. That's a fact.
> But with smaller files than Windows, it also doesn't matter as much. But
> that's beside the point.
No one has ever done anything about it with Linux and Unix because it is,
basically, totally unneccesary.
>
> Anyhow, even here, I think it would be just fine for the nay-sayers to have
> separate threads that says "Frustrated with Vista? Get Information on
> GooFooLoo here!". But for them to chime in, and complete /ruin/ threads
> started by people are asking for help, and where others are trying to help
> them, speaks volumes /against/ those people (and by association, their OS).
>
> So - Where's that method to block posts by certain posters (I'm using OE on
> Win2K at work)? You very quickly learn which people want to help, and which
> are here only to disrupt, so it's probably best to start blocking them. ;-)
>
> Oh, and just so this post isn't /only/ as disruptive as so many others, I'm
> using PerfectDisk for defragging Vista. It works well, but isn't free.
> Diskeeper works well for other Windows versions, and I'm sure for Vista as
> well, with their latest patch. Either gives you much more control, and
> information, than the standard defragger.
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