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constfilin
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 Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:57 am Post subject: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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Greetings,
I have a 7NJL6 mobo and Athlon 2900+ Barton core and Ultra DDR 512MB PC3200 memory. OS is Windows XP with SP2 and the latest patches. Also I have NVIDIA GForce 5200 256 MB AGP.
The system performance in BIOS is set to Optimal (means the most stable settings), FSB frequency is to 200MHz and memory frequency to "Auto".
The system performs well for Internet browsing and light gaming. However if I try using it for video compress, then after 5 minutes of the compression the computer simply blanks out. reboots. No Windows blue screen of death, no error messages, it simply reboots. power cycles.
Sometimes - more rarely - it even does so when I am gaming.
Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
thanks in advance!
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Hagai
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| Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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Hi C.,
I have a similar system (Tigerdirect). My memory was Mushkin 2x512 from
newegg and I had similar effects. I just RMA'ed the memory and will
report if it helped or not. One thing for sure, for a while I had the
memory set at 133MHz and the system was rock stable. I'm afraid the
(cheap) board has to do with it, but I would like you to try to slow
down your memory and report the results here.
It seems more and more people are starting to get experience with this
weird system thanks to Tigerdirect and solving its pecularities will
serve many. Any similar problems 'Guy'?
Thanks,
Hagai
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constfilin wrote:
| Quote: | Greetings,
I have a 7NJL6 mobo and Athlon 2900+ Barton core and Ultra DDR 512MB
PC3200 memory. OS is Windows XP with SP2 and the latest patches. Also
I have NVIDIA GForce 5200 256 MB AGP.
The system performance in BIOS is set to Optimal (means the most
stable settings), FSB frequency is to 200MHz and memory frequency to
"Auto".
The system performs well for Internet browsing and light gaming.
However if I try using it for video compress, then after 5 minutes of
the compression the computer simply blanks out. reboots. No Windows
blue screen of death, no error messages, it simply reboots. power
cycles.
Sometimes - more rarely - it even does so when I am gaming.
Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
thanks in advance!
-c
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mynameismart
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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"Hagai" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi C.,
I have a similar system (Tigerdirect). My memory was Mushkin
2x512 from
newegg and I had similar effects. I just RMA'ed the memory and
will
report if it helped or not. One thing for sure, for a while I
had the
memory set at 133MHz and the system was rock stable. I'm
afraid the
(cheap) board has to do with it, but I would like you to try
to slow
down your memory and report the results here.
It seems more and more people are starting to get experience
with this
weird system thanks to Tigerdirect and solving its
pecularities will
serve many. Any similar problems 'Guy'?
Thanks,
Hagai
(remove the '.at' for direct reply)
constfilin wrote:
Greetings,
I have a 7NJL6 mobo and Athlon 2900+ Barton core and Ultra
DDR 512MB
PC3200 memory. OS is Windows XP with SP2 and the latest
patches. Also
I have NVIDIA GForce 5200 256 MB AGP.
The system performance in BIOS is set to Optimal (means the
most
stable settings), FSB frequency is to 200MHz and memory
frequency to
"Auto".
The system performs well for Internet browsing and light
gaming.
However if I try using it for video compress, then after 5
minutes of
the compression the computer simply blanks out. reboots. No
Windows
blue screen of death, no error messages, it simply reboots.
power
cycles.
Sometimes - more rarely - it even does so when I am gaming.
Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
thanks in advance!
-c
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Same problem here, and I can tell you, I didn’t go cheap on the memory
either. Here are some results:
Stable when:
1X256mb Cheap DDR 3200 @ Memory speed 200Mhz (not dual channel and
such a low amount of ram)
2X512mb Corsair DDR 3200 @ Memory speed 133Mhz (BOOOOOOO!)
2x512mb Kingmax DDR 3200 @ Memory speed 133Mhz
So either I just got a bad motherboard or there is some kind of fix
for this. ALL of the other chaintechs that I have bought (about 7 or 8
of them) of this series (7NJL3/4/6) have worked perfectly.
Unstable when using pretty much any combo with the speed higher than
133mhz.
Yes I checked the jumper, updated Bios, checked the memory in another
computer.
If there is ANYTHING! Please help us!
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Hagai
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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mynameismart wrote:
| Quote: | "Hagai" wrote:
Hi C.,
I have a similar system (Tigerdirect). My memory was Mushkin
2x512 from
newegg and I had similar effects. I just RMA'ed the memory and
will
report if it helped or not. One thing for sure, for a while I
had the
memory set at 133MHz and the system was rock stable. I'm
afraid the
(cheap) board has to do with it, but I would like you to try
to slow
down your memory and report the results here.
It seems more and more people are starting to get experience
with this
weird system thanks to Tigerdirect and solving its
pecularities will
serve many. Any similar problems 'Guy'?
Thanks,
Hagai
(remove the '.at' for direct reply)
constfilin wrote:
Greetings,
I have a 7NJL6 mobo and Athlon 2900+ Barton core and Ultra
DDR 512MB
PC3200 memory. OS is Windows XP with SP2 and the latest
patches. Also
I have NVIDIA GForce 5200 256 MB AGP.
The system performance in BIOS is set to Optimal (means the
most
stable settings), FSB frequency is to 200MHz and memory
frequency to
"Auto".
The system performs well for Internet browsing and light
gaming.
However if I try using it for video compress, then after 5
minutes of
the compression the computer simply blanks out. reboots. No
Windows
blue screen of death, no error messages, it simply reboots.
power
cycles.
Sometimes - more rarely - it even does so when I am gaming.
Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
thanks in advance!
-c
Same problem here, and I can tell you, I didn’t go cheap on the memory
either. Here are some results:
Stable when:
1X256mb Cheap DDR 3200 @ Memory speed 200Mhz (not dual channel and
such a low amount of ram)
2X512mb Corsair DDR 3200 @ Memory speed 133Mhz (BOOOOOOO!)
2x512mb Kingmax DDR 3200 @ Memory speed 133Mhz
So either I just got a bad motherboard or there is some kind of fix
for this. ALL of the other chaintechs that I have bought (about 7 or 8
of them) of this series (7NJL3/4/6) have worked perfectly.
Unstable when using pretty much any combo with the speed higher than
133mhz.
Yes I checked the jumper, updated Bios, checked the memory in another
computer.
If there is ANYTHING! Please help us!
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An update about my system:
I decided to go for better memory and bought PDP (Patriot) 2-3-2-5
PC3200 2x512 with red heatsinks. Apparently, now my system is stable, so
the blame in this case goes to Mushkin.
I just wish the board had internal temp. monitoring. I bought a nice
Enermax panel to do this job. ($16.99@Newegg).
Cheers,
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drtycnvs
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Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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i also have the 7NJL6. i'm running it with an athlon XP 3000+ barton with the 333mhx fsb and 1gb(2x512) gorsair value select pc3200. with just one stick of the 512 in, it runs like a dream-- no hangs, stalls or errors. but now matter what configuration i use, with the 1gb of ram in dual channel, it hangs during loading screens as well as when i'm switching between browser windows. should just changing my ram fix this issue?
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constfilin
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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To answer hagai - yes, when I set my memory frequence to 133, the system becomes more stable, but I've seen it rebooting even then (this happened when I was gaming).
Overall, it looks like a memory problem, Do you think so?
Thanks
-c |
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Ed
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:27 am Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:55:15 +0000,
drtycnvs@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (drtycnvs) wrote:
| Quote: | i also have the 7NJL6. i'm running it with an athlon XP 3000+ barton
with the 333mhx fsb and 1gb(2x512) gorsair value select pc3200. with
just one stick of the 512 in, it runs like a dream-- no hangs, stalls
or errors. but now matter what configuration i use, with the 1gb of
ram in dual channel, it hangs during loading screens as well as when
i'm switching between browser windows. should just changing my ram
fix this issue?
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Some things to try,
Run the ram in sync of the FSB. (same MHz as FSB setting). Running ram
and CPU buses out of sync can have less performance and be less stable
on Socket-A boards.
Raise VDIMM 1 step over spec.
Disable SPD and manually enter the ram timing according to the slowest
stick of ram and/or raise the timings to add more latency for better
stability.
Run memtest86 http://www.memtest86.com/ and Prime95 (tests lots of ram)
www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm to check for stability.
Good luck,
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drtycnvs
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:57 am Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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i already run the memory in sync with the fsb and both sticks of ram are identical. i don't know what you mean by vstep, but if you mean bump the voltage to the ram up... that's my (our) problem- the 7NJL6 doesn't have an option (that i can find) to adjust the voltage to the memory.
i haven't run memtest86 yet because i don't have a floppy drive in this rig (i can get one, but... why?) and anything memory intense just hangs my system when it's in dual channel but runs gorgeously with either stick of ram in seperately.
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drtycnvs
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:42 am Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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i already run the memory in sync with the fsb and both sticks of ram
are identical. i don't know what you mean by vstep, but if you mean
bump the voltage to the ram up... that's my (our) problem- the 7NJL6
doesn't have an option (that i can find) to adjust the voltage to the
memory.
i haven't run memtest86 yet because i don't have a floppy drive in
this rig (i can get one, but... why?) and anything memory intense
just hangs my system when it's in dual channel but runs gorgeously
with either stick of ram in seperately. |
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stanmc
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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drtycnvs wrote:
| Quote: | i already run the memory in sync with the fsb and both sticks of ram
are identical. i don't know what you mean by vstep, but if you mean
bump the voltage to the ram up... that's my (our) problem- the 7NJL6
doesn't have an option (that i can find) to adjust the voltage to the
memory.
i haven't run memtest86 yet because i don't have a floppy drive in
this rig (i can get one, but... why?) and anything memory intense
just hangs my system when it's in dual channel but runs gorgeously
with either stick of ram in seperately.
Memtest86 has a downloadable module that can be written to a bootable CD. |
Here is a URL: (I'm sure there are others, this is the first I found)
http://www.ocztechnology.com/displaypage.php?name=ocz_memtest
Says it is v1.27
I too am having blank outs with my 7NJL6. I am running a 266MHz Palomino
1700+ (133x11)
If I set it for Expert/133Mhz/Optimal/100% (mem Freq) and put in timings
of 8/3/3/3.0 it passes memtest86, but doesn't remain running for more
than a few minutes. The memory is Cas 3 Kingston Value Ram Pc-3200 and
its timings when run at PC-3200 are stated as 8/3/3/3.0. I just tried
this to see how it ran with its SPD memory timings @ 133MHz rather than
200MHz FSB.
If I set it to Optimal/133MHz/Optimal/By Spd it gives memory speed of
200MHz and timings of 8/3/3/3.0. It passes memtest86, but sometimes
boots weirdly.
When I set it for Optimal/133/Optimal/Auto it gives timings of
6/2/2/2.5, passes Memtest86 and runs flawlessly.
When the Palomino cpu breaks I want to put in a Sempron @ 1.8 or 2.0.
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aaron
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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i'v had the same issues with this mb. after a week or so of using it, i gave up and shelfed it.
later a need for a computer to run openOffice and volutive arose. i threw together a comp with the 7njl6 along with other forgoten parts.
to get to the point, i ended up playing WoW and EverquestII on it. which originally were the games that crashed the mb. after experimenting abit ( adding 1GB ram + radeon 9600xt), i discoved it was running rock solid. for me it came down to the psu. i am using an acient enermax 250 psu, if i use any of the upto date psu's (the ones i tried are antec and thermaltake) the same issues arize.
dunno if this will help anyone, but worked for me
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Guy
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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I bought the 7NJL6 with XP 2900. I set it up on 5 Feb with a 128MB AGP 8x card, and two PNY 512MB PC2700 sticks in dual-channel. I have the FSB set at 166MHz with 11.5 multiplier. This is slightly underclocked at 1.909 GHz, but the board is stable as a rock. It has never crashed, even once, and I have not turned the box off since I built it.
I run Win XP Home, and I can work with files in MS Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Adobe Acrobat simultaneously with no decrease in performance, much less sluggishness. Just to test, I also decided to play Civ 3 with the other apps open, and I hit a website just for good measure, with Firefox 1.0PR. Still no problems.
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Cazualty5
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:32 am Post subject: Re: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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"Guy" wrote:
| Quote: | I bought the 7NJL6 with XP 2900. I set it up on 5 Feb with a
128MB
AGP 8x card, and two PNY 512MB PC2700 sticks in dual-channel.
I have
the FSB set at 166MHz with 11.5 multiplier. This is slightly
underclocked at 1909 GHz, but the board is stable as a rock.
It has
never crashed, even once, and I have not turned the box off
since I
built it.
I run Win XP Home, and I can work with files in MS Word,
Excel,
PowerPoint, and Adobe Acrobat simultaneously with no decrease
in
performance, much less sluggishness. Just to test, I also
decided to
play Civ 3 with the other apps open, and I hit a website just
for good
measure, with Firefox 1.0PR. Still no problems.
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ok guys just to carry on this chain of fustration and sannity
got some of the same problems here nothin overclocked as keep gettting
shut down in every day computin.
3200+ barton w/ 1gb kingston pc3200 ati 9800pro stock ,areo cool
ht-101 heat pipe cpu cooler sata x2 200gb enought fans souns like a
boeing. runs fine slugish lately maybe runnin to much in back but have
issues like yours
lock-ups and no posting at boot not as often as the issue of no post
on rebooting. this seems to be my main issue. know i have enough power
on all rails and in p/s 550wt maddog. even have checked it w/ the
meter. havent tried bios yet as am used to ami flashin. still hammerin
out trin to lick the black screen blues wish i could blame it on bill
lol
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uddarts
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:32 am Post subject: Re: Re: Chaintech 7NJL6 blanks out |
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"Cazualty5" wrote:
| Quote: | ok guys just to carry on this chain of fustration and sannity
got some of the same problems here nothin overclocked as keep
gettting shut down in every day computin.
3200+ barton w/ 1gb kingston pc3200 ati 9800pro stock ,areo
cool ht-101 heat pipe cpu cooler sata x2 200gb enought fans
souns like a boeing. runs fine slugish lately maybe runnin to
much in back but have issues like yours
lock-ups and no posting at boot not as often as the issue of
no post on rebooting. this seems to be my main issue. know i
have enough power on all rails and in p/s 550wt maddog. even
have checked it w/ the meter. havent tried bios yet as am used
to ami flashin. still hammerin out trin to lick the black
screen blues wish i could blame it on bill lol
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have you run
http://www.memtest86.com/
and prime95
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm
does your board have temp and voltage sensors?
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