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rasqual Member

Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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Aaargh!
Perfectly good FAT32 disk, try to create a folder:
Command failed! Error Code = Error input data [Please refer to manual for details]
Geez! Key phrases in this error code have never been indexed by google.
It is my lot to suffer unique agonies . . . |
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rokitrik Contributor

Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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| This device does require that you format it via the web administration function and define at least one root directory. You then can use it as a normal hard disk drive with FAT32 only. |
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booq Member

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:01 am Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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FWIW, I've been having similar issues with Argosy. In the process of troubleshooting, I noticed that the IDE cable it shipped with was a standard 40wire/40pin cable (i.e. ATA-33). I swapped out this cable with an 80wire/40pin (ATA-66/100/133) cable and so-far, so good! YMMV, of course, but something to try.
Argosy's HD-363 product page:
http://www.argosyusa.net/product.asp?product_name=HD363N
And new Firmware as of 25 Mar 2005
http://www.argosyusa.net/driver/Argosy-NetHDD004-0317.zip |
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donald_wong_oohay Member

Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:32 am Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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| I just got one of these too and it seems to be working well so far, except for one hiccup. Does anyone know if it's possible to enable support for Unicode filenames? I can create files and folders with Unicode filenames, but I cannot access the newly created file or folder afterwards. |
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ukcobra Forum Regular

Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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The device has stabilised since I have applied later firmware updates. Has anyone managed to get any software application to use the drive ?
I am interested in un-attended backups for devices on the network, rather than me keep ftp'ing stuff.
Mark |
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booq Member

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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| ukcobra wrote: | The device has stabilised since I have applied later firmware updates. Has anyone managed to get any software application to use the drive ?
I am interested in un-attended backups for devices on the network, rather than me keep ftp'ing stuff.
Mark |
Hi Mark, I haven't done any of this yet, since I had some issues a couple of days after I had posted above. I now believe that the problems I had can be attributed to the 160GB Maxtor hard drive I was trying to use. I switched to a 120GB Samsung and to a 200GB Western Digital and haven't had *any* issues (knock on wood).
Depending upon which platform and software you're using, you should be able to create a persistent connection to the Argosy which your backup software could use. Alternatively some backup software (e.g. Retrospect) will support backing up directly to FTP servers. |
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rokitrik Contributor

Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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| I am using this device as a mapped drive to my server and using Stomps Backup MyPC Version 5 software to do scheduled backups nightly. Have not had any issues with this since upgrading the unit to the latest Firmware. |
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BobVal Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:17 am Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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Hello:
I have been having some problems with the Argosy Network Drive and I
think I figured out why.
The Argosy Network Drive uses FAT for it's file system, FAT uses a
FIXED Allocation Block size for files. I have a 200 gig drive in there
and for FAT to reference it all it MUST use 32K as the file allocation
size.
Now I have been trying to copy 11,128 files that take up 92 gig to this
drive. The drive I am copying from is using NTFS which uses variable
file allocation size.
The same amount of files copied to the Argosy Network Drive would
require 300+ gig. Because for each file the Argosy uses 32k. My
average file size is 8 - 10k but on the Windows XP NTFS, but on the
Argosy they will all be 32k. Using 3 times as much storage as needed.
I think I need to find a different solution that uses a variable
allocation size like NTFS used by windows XP, etc.
Bob Valentino |
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Loc Member

Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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I'm new here. There's not too much resources on the web about this device and the documentation is regrettable. This thread seems to be the only resource I can find through google
I just got this and everything worked just fine. I was watching data transfer speeds in Windows task manager and the fastest was around 50% of my 100mbps network for a cd ISO image. It was 30% for my smaller random files I was backing up.
Is there something slowing my data transfer speed? When I transfer files from one computer to another across the network I'm getting about 85% readings.
I'm familar with *nix commands but this isn't quite the same. Is there documentation on the commands used in this device? |
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BZMAN Guest
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:31 am Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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As far as I know that you can call Argosyusa 626-338-2522 to get the
support on this enclsoure. Or email support@argosyusa.com.
If you need more of this, I found a cheaper place www.intldirect.com is
the cheapest!!!
Loc wrote:
| Quote: | I'm new here. There's not too much resources on the web about this
device and the documentation is regrettable. This thread seems to be
the only resource I can find through google :lol:
I just got this and everything worked just fine. I was watching data
transfer speeds in Windows task manager and the fastest was around
50% of my 100mbps network for a cd ISO image. It was 30% for my
smaller random files I was backing up.
Is there something slowing my data transfer speed? When I transfer
files from one computer to another across the network I'm getting
about 85% readings.
I'm familar with *nix commands but this isn't quite the same. Is
there
documentation on the commands used in this device? |
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Loc Member

Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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| Is there any way I can speed up read/write times to the enclosure? |
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rokitrik Contributor

Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:45 am Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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The latest firmware has improved the performance of this device considerably. This would be NetHDD004-0317. If you need this firmware you can download it from our web site jarenterprises.com or go to ArgosyUSA.com and find the HD-363N Product and view the description which has a link for the current firmware. Do not go to downloads or support on the Argosy site as you will not find this there.
Hope this helps. |
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Loc Member

Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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| I already had the latest firmware. Just to make sure I flashed it again and it still tops out at 25% in the task manager. Is this the current limit fo the enclosure? |
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ukcobra Forum Regular

Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 9:57 am Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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Mine also works at this speed, and I see it's performance as to be expected. From within my FTP program it appears to be working as fast as any other disk I'd be copying to.
Mark |
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fixuser Forum Regular


Joined: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 48
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage |
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Hi everyone,
I've been looking at NAS units for sometime, trying to find a way to add some centralized storage to our home network without spending more time/effort configuring yet another PC. I've found that almost all NAS units run rather slow ... they just don't have the built-in processing power to move data to and from the disk as fast as a full blown PC unit. They run at about the same rate as most wireless data rates .... 20 Mbits/s. I've found this rather misleading as most manufacturers always state in their specs. the Ethernet 100/10 or USB 2.0 connection speeds ... but they are not willing to post the actual data throughput rate.
So, those of you that are seeing your Ethernet 100 Mbit/s network only running at about 25%, that seems very consistent with how these devices perform.
The only company I've found that was willing to post actual data rate throughput is Tritton Technologies. You can find info on their NAS device at (look under their 'frequently ask questions'):
http://support.trittontechnologies.com/simplenas.html
Stangely enough, I think their Simple NAS TRI-NSS001 is EXACTLY the same at the Argosy HD-363N. Their description, features, and firmware updates seem very similar.
NOTE, just this past week, Tritton released an updated firmware ... which is MUCH faster. I haven't seen an updated firmware on Argosy's website ... but I'm willing to bet there will be one soon.
I just ordered an Argosy HD-363N last week too, it will arrive today. I think I'm going to try to load the Tritton firmware into the Argosy product.
Also, if you are looking for documentation, I'd suggest the Tritton web site as they have all the documentation online for download ... and they answer many questions. Their tech support is also great, they've answered some questions I've posted to them via email.
Lastly, for other resources on NAS units, I've found the following information useful, in which several NAS units are compared.
http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-201-ProdID-MSS.php
If the Argosy (and/or Tritton) unit can achieve 4 MB/s to 5 MB/s, they will compete well with the more expensive units on the market ... that's why I decided to give this device a try.
Hope some of this info helps. If I load the Tritton firmware into the Argosy device, I'll post back with results. |
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