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 Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:43 pm Post subject: P4 and SCSI U320, is this possible? |
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Hi
I'm looking to build a leading edge PC and wondered how I can use a
SCSI U320 disk system with a P4 3.2Ghz with 800mhz bus.
All the motherboards I've seen don't support PCI-X when supporting
P4's....
Anyone got ideas on a 'best of everything' PC system?
Thanks in advance |
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Yousuf Khan
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: P4 and SCSI U320, is this possible? |
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Test User <nomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:<36b9lv86rdqtbpor325jg191sinl2ht8k6@4ax.com>...
| Quote: | Hi
I'm looking to build a leading edge PC and wondered how I can use a
SCSI U320 disk system with a P4 3.2Ghz with 800mhz bus.
All the motherboards I've seen don't support PCI-X when supporting
P4's....
Anyone got ideas on a 'best of everything' PC system?
Thanks in advance
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PCI-X is mostly a server-only standard, not generally available on
desktop PC's. You may have to go with a server motherboard and cpu,
such as a Xeon, or Athlon MP or Opteron.
Yousuf Khan |
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Keith R. Williams
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 6:53 am Post subject: Re: P4 and SCSI U320, is this possible? |
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In article <36ca2d9e.0309021004.607b6fb9@posting.google.com>,
bbbl67@yahoo.com says...
| Quote: | Test User <nomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:<36b9lv86rdqtbpor325jg191sinl2ht8k6@4ax.com>...
Hi
I'm looking to build a leading edge PC and wondered how I can use a
SCSI U320 disk system with a P4 3.2Ghz with 800mhz bus.
All the motherboards I've seen don't support PCI-X when supporting
P4's....
Anyone got ideas on a 'best of everything' PC system?
Thanks in advance
PCI-X is mostly a server-only standard, not generally available on
desktop PC's. You may have to go with a server motherboard and cpu,
such as a Xeon, or Athlon MP or Opteron.
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Hmm, the Apple G5 is a server? That's not what SteveJ said. ;-)
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Keith |
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Tony Hill
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:05 am Post subject: Re: P4 and SCSI U320, is this possible? |
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 14:43:28 +0000 (UTC), Test User
<nomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I'm looking to build a leading edge PC and wondered how I can use a
SCSI U320 disk system with a P4 3.2Ghz with 800mhz bus.
All the motherboards I've seen don't support PCI-X when supporting
P4's....
Anyone got ideas on a 'best of everything' PC system?
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I'm afraid that you're likely to be SOL in this regard, at least for
the time being. There are only a couple of chipsets out there that
support the new 800MHz bus speed P4's, and none of them seem to
support PCI-X. Intel, AMD and Broadcom/Serverworks are about the only
chipset vendors out there supporting PCI-X these days. AMD,
obviously, does not make a chipset for the P4 (or any Intel
processor), and Broadcom's chipsets targeted solely at Intel's Xeon
line which is currently running on a 533MHz bus speed. Intel's own
chipsets look like they might get extended in the not-too-distant
future to support this combination (either through a new I/O hub for
the i875 successor or by adding 800MHz bus speed support to the e7505
chipset), but that's not an option just yet.
If you do want to use PCI-X cards, you have a few options at the
moment. First is Intel's Xeon line, where you have by far the most
choice. The XeonDP 3.06GHz (533MHz bus speed) is available for a
reasonable price, and there are a number of boards out there to
support it with PCI-X. There are also one or two boards out there
that will support regular P4 3.06GHz (533MHz bus speed) chips and
PCI-X. Here is the only one I've come across, though there may be
others:
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/trinitygcsl.html
You're only other solution here would be an AMD Opteron processor and
a board using AMD's 8000 chipset. Currently the choice among these is
a tiny bit weak since it's still a pretty new product. This is
particularly true if you're just looking for a single-processor
solution (most early Opteron boards targeted the high-end
dual-processor market), but it might be worth a quick look to see if
it suits your needs.
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Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca |
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Tony Hill
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:23 am Post subject: Re: P4 and SCSI U320, is this possible? |
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:53:25 -0400, Keith R. Williams
<krw@attglobal.net> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <36ca2d9e.0309021004.607b6fb9@posting.google.com>,
bbbl67@yahoo.com says...
PCI-X is mostly a server-only standard, not generally available on
desktop PC's. You may have to go with a server motherboard and cpu,
such as a Xeon, or Athlon MP or Opteron.
Hmm, the Apple G5 is a server? That's not what SteveJ said. ;-)
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The Apple G5 is also currently surrounded by the Steve Jobs Reality
Distortion Field (tm). In this bizarre alternate reality, Stevey-J
can say anything he wants about anything while having absolutely no
connection or resemblance to the real world.
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Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: P4 and SCSI U320, is this possible? |
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Keith R. Williams <krw@attglobal.net> wrote in
news:MPG.19bf13a32f4885a198a60d@enews.newsguy.com:
| Quote: | Hmm, the Apple G5 is a server?
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It sure has a server price.
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Pent-up passive-aggressive dork alert! Whoop! Whoop!
Whoop! Whoop! Boy, you're really lighting up this alarm here! |
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Keith R. Williams
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:52 am Post subject: Re: P4 and SCSI U320, is this possible? |
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In article <Xns93ECE7F709328RusHcomputersystems@193.110.122.80>,
rush@kiti.pulse.pdi.net says...
| Quote: | Keith R. Williams <krw@attglobal.net> wrote in
news:MPG.19bf13a32f4885a198a60d@enews.newsguy.com:
Hmm, the Apple G5 is a server?
It sure has a server price.
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No, it has the price of a professional desktop. It's not
intended to compete against a $499 K-Mart special.
I take it you've never met a system designed to be a server.
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Tony Hill
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:56 am Post subject: Re: P4 and SCSI U320, is this possible? |
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 20:52:59 -0400, Keith R. Williams
<krw@attglobal.net> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <Xns93ECE7F709328RusHcomputersystems@193.110.122.80>,
rush@kiti.pulse.pdi.net says...
Keith R. Williams <krw@attglobal.net> wrote in
news:MPG.19bf13a32f4885a198a60d@enews.newsguy.com:
Hmm, the Apple G5 is a server?
It sure has a server price.
No, it has the price of a professional desktop. It's not
intended to compete against a $499 K-Mart special.
I take it you've never met a system designed to be a server.
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The PowerMac G5's are definitely NOT servers, though if you ask me,
they have a bit of an identity crisis, at least for the top-end model.
A dual-processor system with 64-bit processors capable of handling
tons of memory and PCI-X support sure sounds like a workstation to me.
However, this workstation/PC can't handle ECC memory and the only
graphics cards you can get for it are pure gaming cards.
So is it a workstation or a gaming system? If it's a workstation the
lack of ECC support is a bit of a bummer, and the $300 video card that
comes bundled is an absolute waste of money. If it's a gaming system,
the dual-processors seem like a bit of a waste (even multithreaded
games see virtually zero benefit from multiple processor systems) and
PCI-X seems like overkill, since about the only things that will be on
that bus will be a sound card and a NIC (probably running at 10Base-T
for a broadband connection).
There are a lot of things that I like about the Apple PowerMac G5
systems, and I certainly wouldn't turn my back on one if someone
handed it to me. However it just seems to me like it's trying to be a
little bit of everything without being really good at anything (or at
the very least, too expensive for anything). It's kind of too bad,
because otherwise I would probably start recommending them to the
non-geek types out there who want something that just works out of the
box with little fuzz or bother. Unfortunately the absolute cheapest
that you can possibly configure a PowerMac G5 is $1770 (without a
monitor, speakers or any extras at all). This makes it a rather pricy
box for most non-geek types.
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Tony Hill
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Edward Strauss
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:56 am Post subject: Re: P4 and SCSI U320, is this possible? |
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Test User <nomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
I'm looking to build a leading edge PC and wondered how I can use a
SCSI U320 disk system with a P4 3.2Ghz with 800mhz bus.
All the motherboards I've seen don't support PCI-X when supporting
P4's....
Anyone got ideas on a 'best of everything' PC system?
Thanks in advance
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Dell puts a LSI 21320 card (raid enabled, PCI/X) in their PE400SC
servers. They put it in a regular PCI slot. Looks like an old 8
bit ISA card in a 16 bit slot. Motherboard uses the 875 chipset.
Works fine. So there is at least one option for you... |
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